libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2023-12-29

FilipZHi! I have an issue with space in the process table being seemingly taken away by the processes that are not present anymore. IDs that should be free are not reused anymore, and after some time the system freezes, after the entire process table is filled. How could I fix this?01:58
debdogFilipZ: just out of curiousity, at what ID does the table end?02:00
FilipZAbout 2^1502:01
FilipZAbout 32768 I think02:01
FilipZOr one less, as it starts with 002:02
debdogwhat's your uptime?02:04
FilipZAnd some time after the highest processes listed by the task manager reach 32k, the system freezes02:04
debdogand which devuan releas?02:04
debdoge02:04
FilipZuptime output: "02:03:18 up 21:56,  0 users,  load average: 1.46, 1.84, 2.06"02:08
FilipZChimaera02:08
debdogsorry, estimated uptime when this happens, I meant02:11
* debdog shuts up now to not litter the channel02:12
FilipZdebdog: I am not sure if I understand. Do you mean after how long the system freezes? It varies.02:14
FilipZBut now I have about 3k IDs left, with just 263 processes alive.02:15
debdogare we talking hours or months?02:15
FilipZHours. About a day, I think.02:15
FilipZSometimes 2 or 3.02:16
al1r4d@joigser: maybe as long as debian still support 32-bit, devuan not dropping 32 bit02:41
JackFrosthttps://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/12/msg00003.html which doesn't appear to be long.02:52
gnarfaceif FilipZ comes back someone ask them if they're also using nvidia's proprietary drivers and whether there's a conspicuous memory leak in X at the same time03:17
gnarface...and also if they've mixed in any 3rd party packages or packages from other devaun release versions, or self-compiled stuff from anywhere, even if it's a source package03:18
rrqcousin_luigi: ok, enp1s0.123 would be for vlan 123 on the ethernet interface. it's fine to have that as bridge port, for incoming packets with vlan tag 123 going into the bridge without tagging03:22
rrq.. and packets from the bridge would go out on enp1s0 with tagging (123)03:25
rrqin /etc/network/interfaces you may hav a block "iface enp1s0.123 inet manual" with esp an "up brctl addif br123 $IFACE" statement, so that the vlan interface when brought up is added to the bridge03:28
rrqmaybe a "down .." statement as well03:29
rrqthe bridge would have "bridge_ports none" as statement so as to trigger the bridge-utils/ifupdown.sh script03:30
rrqbut without automatic ports; so as to avoid bridge diffling to spill over into port interface fiddling03:31
rrqdiffling=fiddling :)03:31
rrqthat separation would also call for an "auto enp1s0.123" statement to be lexically after an "auto br123" statement, or alternatively merged into a single "auto br123 enp1s0.123" statemenet so as to be explicit about that ordering03:36
Nietzbed beckons.  o&o05:43
darwini tried 'apt-get remove xorg'... instead of just removing, as asked, it says six packages will be upgraded.  Then it can't find them because they're at a Debian rather than Devuan archive, so the entire command fails.  Still 'dependency Hell', I see05:59
darwin'*xorg*'05:59
darwinguess I just had to upgrade first06:04
cousin_luigirrq: It works that way already, but I want to create it with bridge.06:11
rrqI don't that program06:17
rrqseems to treat "bridge" as some higher level concept rather than being the network interfaces06:19
rrqconcept confusion is obviously something dearly needed in linux networking06:20
rrqdoesn't look like the "bridge" program creates interfaces though06:28
rrqwell; I'm reading its manpage only.06:28
rrqafaict from that, "bridge" operates on internal traffic tables but doesn't change the interface collection or any bridge port assignment setup06:39
cousin_luigirrq: openwrt uses that by default (it has something to do with the iproute suite), will ask there as well10:01
Guest60hello14:43
Guest60i'm trying to migrate from debian 1214:43
Guest60but it can't find the keyring package14:43
Guest60i tried to switch mirrors14:43
brocashelmguest60: you can also try downloading the deb file of the devuan keyring package and install it locally: https://www.devuan.org/os/keyring15:00
brocashelmhttp://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2023.05.28_all.deb15:01
brocashelmafter it is installed, try apt update again15:01
Guest60Installed it, tried apt update, manager can't find eudev either15:23
fsmithredGuest60, eudev should be in the main repo. Can you paste your sources.list to paste.debian.net?15:26
fsmithredexample: https://www.devuan.org/os/packages15:32
Guest60fsmithred paste.debian.net/130243615:47
fsmithredThat mirror appears to be ok. Maybe paste the output with the error message.15:51
fsmithredThe apt-update completed normally?15:51
fsmithredapt-cache search eudev15:51
fsmithred^^^ That should find it.15:51
Guest60paste.debian.net/130243915:54
Guest60apt-cache isn't finding anything15:54
fsmithredLooks like you have a lot of third-party repos enabled. Something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ I guess.15:57
fsmithredThe address that it can't find is the devuan repo you're trying to use.15:57
fsmithredmirror checker is here if you want to try another: http://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html15:58
fsmithredor maybe there's a dns problem15:58
fsmithredI have to go.16:09
Guest60Okay, thanks for the help16:10

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