libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2024-01-12

gnarfacehagbard: maybe it needs dbus?00:33
hagbardIt needs dbus, but dbus was present. It appearently also needed seatd installed, and some usrmerge-related problems fixed, and some packages reinstalled.00:39
hagbardDidn't figure out the actual exact problem though, but at least got it to work again.00:40
fifihyperbolahey is it hard/easy to install linux-libre kernel on devuan??01:55
n4dirprobably easy, but it is really long ago i tried the libre kernel at all01:56
fifihyperbolaok01:56
fifihyperbolaI am testing some distributions on openbsd VMM and I've noticed that distros with libre kernels won't boot, so now I want to install devuan and then linux-libre kernel afterwards and see if that boots up or not01:57
n4dirand the other distros boot fine with a "normal" kernel?01:57
fifihyperbolayeah trisquel with generic ubuntu kernel boots up fine01:58
fifihyperbolaubuntu/debian too and devuan have been tested01:58
n4diri mean, if all you want to do is a quick test if it will boot at all, deselect the GUI during installation. To make it install more fast01:58
fifihyperbolabut hyperbola and parabola don't boot so now I want to try install linux-libre on devuan and see if that boots up after reboot01:58
fifihyperbolayeah I am using a serial console01:58
fifihyperbolayeah I know :)01:58
fifihyperbolathanks for tip :)01:58
n4dirif debian doesn't boot there with libre, i doubt devuan will. But give it a try, to be sure01:59
fifihyperbolaI haven't tried debian with libre01:59
n4dirah, misunderstood. sorry01:59
fifihyperbolajust generic kelners, the only libre I tried were hyperbola and parabola they don't boot01:59
fifihyperbolasorry it's my english lol, I am not native english, it's cool :)01:59
n4dirnah, na, it was me. I was not focused02:00
fifihyperbolahaha, yeah I understand :P02:00
fifihyperbolayeah, a lot of clever folks here so I thought yeah I will go for devuan for testing, haha :) I am excited about this lol, take care m802:01
fifihyperbolathanks for your time :)02:01
fifihyperbola\(^^)/02:01
n4dirfifihyperbola: i can't explain, nor fully understand, but right now there seems to be quite some trouble running testing or ceres/unstable02:02
fifihyperbolafair enough, I am going to use stable02:02
fifihyperbolawhat trouble btw? :P02:03
n4diryou might want to ask that too, and wait for someon who does understand. All i know i had to go back to stable.02:03
fifihyperbolahaha nice02:03
fifihyperbola:)02:03
n4dirfor me it was: no mouse/keyboard in GUI and no more internet connection. For others it partly were other and partly similar problems02:03
n4dirbut someting serious02:03
fifihyperbolawow02:03
n4dirsome found solutions, iirc, but i didn't care to look for it02:04
fifihyperbolaok, cool :)02:04
n4diryou can make a "snapshot" in the VM you use? If so, going for testing, if it fails, going back, no problem02:04
fifihyperbolaso Daedelus is table02:04
fifihyperbolayeah02:05
fifihyperbolaI mean I just create image qcow202:05
fifihyperbolaI can download it to my laptop with filezilla02:05
n4diras far i can see really a lot ran in that problem the last days. But don't take my word for it. i am not too involved02:06
fifihyperbolaok I am going for this I think: devuan_daedalus_5.0.1_amd64_netinstall.iso02:07
fifihyperbola:P02:07
n4dirgood luck, have fun and all.02:07
fifihyperbolathanks mate :) you too \(^^)/02:07
fifihyperbolaok good night, gotta go now02:22
cousin_luigiIs there a Devuan image for serial installation?10:17
|cos|cousin_luigi: you can't PXE-boot and thus be able to give arguments arbitrarily?10:21
brocashelmthat's great, suspend doesn't work anymore on one of my laptops; didn't do any installations/upgrades between last successful suspend and now the failing suspend (takes me to the boot screen when i open the lid again)10:26
cousin_luigi|cos|: More bother than connecting a video cable, like I did.12:57
cousin_luigiShould be fine for a few releases now.12:57
cousin_luigiNow, do you happen to know how to set the lowest power possible for an AMD SoC GPU?12:58
cousin_luigiThe various references on the web don't seem to be too precise12:58
nezoshi, when updating I get errors on initramfs, it tries to find /sbin/modprobe and says not found, do others experience this?13:12
nezosthere is a symbolik link named modprobe in /usr/sbin13:12
al1r4dtry it, nezos13:47
al1r4dbtw, my desktop now -> https://ibb.co/s6Kc1tJ ~13:47
al1r4dshow yours ( to all =) )13:48
buZznezos: where does it link to?13:52
nezosto kmod13:52
nezosbizz13:52
nezosbuzz13:52
buZz? it links to 'kmod' ?13:53
buZzah i see, kmod is a replacement for modprobe it seems13:53
nezos: /bin/kmod13:53
buZzsomewhere in last 1-2 years , debian moved from /sbin to /usr/sbin i think, or other way around13:53
buZzdevuan just followed along13:54
buZzmaybe you upgraded too far at once?13:54
nezosmy system is old but I follow updates regularly13:54
buZzoh ok13:54
nezosalmost every 2-3 days13:54
fsmithredread about usrmerge on forum or dng mailing list archives14:10
fsmithredtie to make the donuts...14:10
fsmithredtime14:10
nezosI read the thread, what a mess!14:19
masonWhen I migrate to UsrMerge here, which I'm sure will happen, I expect I'll do it with fresh installs.16:01
masonI'm waiting until less is broken and it won't happen until stable+1 is released.16:01
djphi don't htink usrmerge will ever not be broken16:28
masonThere are some smart, good folks working to unbreak it - not the folks who are driving it, either.16:32
golinuxIt is an arms race digital style. Big money always wins. But this is not a support conversation . . .17:28
fifihyperbolahey how can I change default devuan kernel to another one? I've downloaded a kernel, so I have got 2 kernels installed. Now I could just remove the default one and set up the 2nd one, but I am not sure how to do that18:38
fifihyperbolak nvm, it's in the grub, sillyme19:11
eyalrozI just had the weirdest bug when rebooting... all of a sudden, certain init scripts were expecting files in /sbin which weren't there23:30
eyalrozspecifically, /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh wanted sed, but its path didn't include /usr/bin, only /sbin and /bin23:30
eyalrozand the same goes for /etc/init.d/mountall.sh23:31
eyalrozthen, mkinitramfs wanted all sorts of stuff there: modprobe, modinfo23:31
eyalroz(this was after a system hang)23:32
eyalrozwhen I copied them, booting succeeded, but23:32
eyalrozNow initramfs is acting up:23:32
eyalrozProcessing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.142) ...23:32
eyalrozupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.5.0-5-amd6423:32
eyalrozW: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/dg2_huc_gsc.bin for module i91523:32
eyalrozW: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/mtl_huc_gsc.bin for module i91523:32
eyalrozW: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/mtl_guc_70.bin for module i91523:32
eyalrozW: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/adlp_dmc.bin for module i91523:33
eyalrozW: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/mtl_dmc.bin for module i91523:33
eyalrozE: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/dmsetup failed with return 1.23:33
eyalroz(this is all with excalibur, I should mention)23:33
golinuxGuess you like to live in the edge . . .23:43
golinuxThere is a LOT of breakage due to usrmerge . . .23:44
golinuxI don't know enough about the details but I do know I'm staying on chumaera until it's sorted in a year or so . . .23:45
golinuxThanks Debian!23:45
golinuxHa! Chimaera really . . .23:46
n4dirspeak easy to the easy minded. Chimaera is old-school?23:47
n4dirold-stable even, sorry23:47
brocashelmon a reinstall, i would have settled for chimaera, but the transition to gtk3 was still pretty awkward there, including the csd/gnome-esque guis23:49
brocashelmmore of my favorite software got ported over to daedalus, so i can settle for it for now23:49

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