| mathew | Thx for the answer! I m not really expecting problems but wanted to ask anyway. I have used Debian as desktop for over 5 years now and never did a distro switch. i did reinstallations of debian and kept the home directory but never shared my home directory with another distro, so i just wanted to be sure. anyway i have a backup but sometimes you notice the problems after some time | 00:25 |
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| mathew | So speaking of the config files in home directory i should be safe... what about the config files in /etc ? Is a good idea to copy /etc from old debian bookworm to new devuan daedalus installation? | 00:29 |
| rwp | mathew, Devuan is Debian. The only packages that are not are those that are required to be forked or banned for systemd. That's a hundred or so from the entire repository. The rest of the packages are merged into Devuan from Debian verbatim. | 00:30 |
| rwp | As long as you are not moving backward in KDE versions I would expect that it would be identical as far as $HOME files are concerned. | 00:30 |
| rwp | Note that I am not running KDE myself so I don't really know what it is like these days. I stopped using it at all back in the KDE3 days. | 00:31 |
| rwp | The list of packages banned or forked due to systemd are listed here: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 00:31 |
| mathew | thx for the link. i have some technical experience but no detail knowledge. i just think about switching the distro because i have problems with systemd shutting down. sometimes the tasks are not probably shutting down and then my laptop uses up the battery in my backpack. devuan is shutting down more reliable but of course i m onehundert percent sure | 00:34 |
| rwp | systemd not shutting down, hanging at shutdown, is one of my most serious complaints about it, mostly in a server environment. Because the system can't reboot if it hangs at shutdown. And I often see systemd hang at shutdown. | 00:36 |
| rwp | As recently as yesterday I had to power cycle a server in order to shut it down because I could see on the console that systemd was hung on the way down and stuck. | 00:37 |
| mathew | yes, i experience exatly that, but to be fair i m sceptical if another init system is more reliable. i guess one can have problems in every init system, but i do not know to much details | 00:37 |
| rwp | Well... I do feel that I understand the details fairly well. But me ranting about it would be something for #devuan-offtopic and they have heard it all many times there already. :-) | 00:38 |
| rwp | bbiab | 00:38 |
| mathew | i guess that! i m just a user who likes linux and needs a reliable shutting down laptop | 00:40 |
| mathew | what i also noticed: i have installed devuan unencrypted. it seems that devuan is draining the battery less. but to be fair the debian installation is encrypted. i do not know already if the faster battery drain is from debian encrypten or init system difference... but i guess that an encrypted devuan is also draining more power... | 00:42 |
| joerg | if only it was just an init system. Alas it ate much more than the init | 01:06 |
| rwp | mathew, It's the same Linux kernel package handling the encryption layer in both systems. | 01:16 |
| gnarface | mathew: probably a little of both | 01:32 |
| al1r4d | is there relation unable to access because dns server was down and sudo? the slower sudo, more slower dns server | 07:36 |
| rrq | yes "sudo" tries to look up the hostname .. you avoid actual dns querying by putting it in /etc/hosts (typically by adding it to the localhost line) | 07:55 |
| al1r4d | Hhm, thank yoy rrq | 10:37 |
| al1r4d | Does doas try to look up too? | 10:37 |
| fluffywolf | anyone ever play with dpkg triggers? | 16:21 |
| fluffywolf | specifically, creating a package with a filesystem trigger. | 16:24 |
| fluffywolf | the documentation I'm finding is surprisingly old | 16:28 |
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