| chomwitt | gnarface: thanks for answering my question. I saw your answer examining logs because weechat hadnt got it . | 08:01 |
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| rustyaxe | found a bug in the various kea init scripts; /run/kea doesnt exist and needs to :o | 08:05 |
| raub | So I installed devuan in a laptop yesterday, but it seems it has issues: | 11:23 |
| raub | While it 'ip a' sees the wireless interface (used for the install), I do not see the network icon on the panel (using the default (xfce?) windows manager). When I connected a usb to ethernet device to install missing packages, I had to run dhclient for it to connect | 11:25 |
| djph | so you don't have network mangler installed? | 11:26 |
| raub | And when I run apt-get install package, it kept downloading the package and its dependencies over and over again (I stopped at 4 loop) | 11:26 |
| raub | djph: do oyu mean network manager? | 11:27 |
| djph | yeah, that too | 11:27 |
| raub | No worries; I myself have a hard time typing =) | 11:28 |
| djph | I've never seen apt loop like you describe though ... that's | 11:28 |
| djph | oh, no, it's on par with pulse audio and systemd for "stop thinking you know better than me" | 11:28 |
| raub | That is my main issue with systemd | 11:29 |
| raub | Back to network manager I did see it there, I think. Maybe I could see if I can connect to network from command line? | 11:30 |
| raub | Let me start laptop again | 11:30 |
| raub | Interesting: on bootit si trying to dhcpdiscover on wlan0. | 11:32 |
| raub | I guess it is ASSuming the wifi I used to install it is the one I am using here | 11:33 |
| raub | ps -ef|grep -i network shows nobody alive | 11:35 |
| raub | But syslog shows nm-dhcp-client being used | 11:36 |
| raub | So, there is a /usr/lib/NetworkManager | 11:36 |
| raub | But no nmcli | 11:37 |
| raub | 'dpkg --get-selections|grep -i netowkr' does not show network-manager | 11:41 |
| raub | s/netowkr/network; I am either dyelxic or just can't type. Or both | 11:41 |
| raub | Reinstalling the OS now | 12:20 |
| raub | Update: reinstall successfull in now I am connected to my home network and the nm applet seem to be working | 14:05 |
| raub | However, it connected to my network before I logged in to user account, as in it did not ask for pw | 14:06 |
| ted-ious | raub: I think there's a setting for allowing everyone to use the network and maybe you should uncheck it. | 14:41 |
| ted-ious | If that doesn't work I'd delete the network and then create it for your user. | 14:41 |
| nemo | hm. we are now up to 19 devuan linux machines at work | 20:27 |
| nemo | in our teensy little fiefdom | 20:27 |
| nemo | obviously that could all go crumbling down the instant they impose a tool that is systemd-only | 20:28 |
| nemo | but for now, everything still supports sysv | 20:28 |
| ted-ious | nemo: A commercial tool? | 20:32 |
| ted-ious | You can always tell the vendor that they have to make a non systemd version or you won't buy it. :) | 20:32 |
| nemo | ted-ious: regrettably I have no say in such matters. but I could, I suppose, pretend I do | 21:18 |
| nemo | ... well. I usually don't | 21:18 |
| Guest9883 | Okay, so my newly installed Refracta is not booting. I tried the manually booting by using: set root=blah blah. Then: linux /boot/vmlinux blah blah root=/dev/sdablah. But there is no sda. ls /boot shows user contents not root. | 22:36 |
| gnarface | Guest9883: to clarify, you're saying /boot contains what should be in /usr? | 22:40 |
| ted-ious | Is refracta a linux distribution? | 22:40 |
| gnarface | yes | 22:40 |
| gnarface | it's sort of a distro-generating toolset and a distro, but it's based on devuan and maintained by one of the devuan maintainers | 22:41 |
| gnarface | Guest9883: not sure what happened, but just based on that information only, it kinda sounds like you're not using UUIDs in your fstab and the partitions changed order on you somehow. should easy to fix, though i'm not clear on why it happened | 22:42 |
| Guest9883 | gnarface, no /dev contains /user/dev | 22:43 |
| gnarface | Guest9883: /user/dev not /usr/dev? | 22:44 |
| Guest9883 | correct | 22:44 |
| gnarface | Guest9883: nah, now i really don't know what happened, there shouldn't be any directory called user | 22:44 |
| gnarface | unless you named your actual username "user" ? | 22:44 |
| Guest9883 | user is my user name | 22:44 |
| Guest9883 | so ls /dev produces stdin stout null etc | 22:45 |
| n4dir | my username is user. | 22:45 |
| gnarface | Guest9883: hmmm... /dev still shouldn't be anywhere in /home, and the home directory shouldn't be at the top level... can you take an inventory of all the partitions so we can maybe figure out what happened? | 22:45 |
| n4dir | i probably would reinstall. | 22:47 |
| Guest9883 | I don't know how to reproduce the output from grub> terminal | 22:47 |
| Guest9883 | But basically hd0,gpt0 to 7 | 22:47 |
| Guest9883 | I have 3 linux os partitions, and a windows that I haven't booted to in a long time. | 22:48 |
| gnarface | hmmm... | 22:48 |
| gnarface | fsmithred: any idea on this? ^ | 22:48 |
| Guest9883 | I installed Refracta do sda2. My Bios is selected to boot to both legacy and efi | 22:49 |
| Guest9883 | refracta *to sda2 | 22:49 |
| Guest9883 | I then tried to boot to another linux distro, but same /username/dev output | 22:50 |
| gnarface | Guest9883: i guess i would try booting the devuan live iso and try to repair the partition mappings manually but that doesn't really explain what happened so it might not work | 22:51 |
| Guest9883 | when I just tried to hammer it home: grub error: symbol 'grub_is_lockdown' | 22:51 |
| Guest9883 | I'll look up "repair partition mappings manually". Going to practice my french horn. Getting head ache ahah. Thank you! | 22:52 |
| gnarface | Guest9883: well, you might want to try to figure out what happened first, since maybe there's a simpler option | 22:53 |
| gnarface | it's weird you're seeing the same problem repeatedly with different distros... | 22:53 |
| gnarface | but maybe i'm missing something obvious here | 22:54 |
| Guest9883 | Maybe the troubleshooting info is bad: set root=(hd0,gpt2)/ | 22:54 |
| Guest9883 | err. I mean set root=(hd0,gpt2) | 22:55 |
| gnarface | yea, well grub names partitions differently than a booted linux distro, so that's somewhat confusing | 22:55 |
| Guest9883 | I tried both. It's a puzzle. Take care. | 22:55 |
| fsmithred | gnarface, I read the scrollback and I am bewildered. | 23:15 |
| fsmithred | maybe a combination of setting the installer to no-format and selecting the wrong partition could do that. | 23:17 |
| fsmithred | or if he chose to use a separate partition for /home and then mounted some other system's root partition, he'd get a /home/dev, but it sounded like he installed it to a single partition. | 23:18 |
| n4dir | i somehow was able to not format and install refracta to ntfs or such, and it took us long to figure it out, fsmithred . Is a few years ago, you probably don't remember | 23:20 |
| n4dir | i'd reinstall anyway. It doesn't look it is worth to look into it | 23:20 |
| fsmithred | You're right - I don't remember that. | 23:21 |
| n4dir | ha. Yeah, there is a bit in a refractainstaller which can be not too clear. Here and there. Or it is me, not complaining | 23:23 |
| n4dir | me always hitting the enter key without reading | 23:23 |
| fsmithred | Yeah, I sometimes have to stop and read to make sure I know where I am. | 23:33 |
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