| tmlind | ok sorted out the n_gsm.c stuff hopefully, need to discuss it further on the lists if that's the right fix | 07:08 |
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| tmlind | Wizzup, freemangordon, parazyd, uvos: pushed out initial droid4-pending-v5.16 to github, and i intentionally left out uvos' pending patches | 07:09 |
| tmlind | please set up your pending patches into branches based on mainline v5.16 instead of droid4-pending-v5.16, then for m-l devel kernel those branches can just get merged into the m-l git branch :) | 07:10 |
| tmlind | here's the link for the commits in droid4-pending-v5.16: https://github.com/tmlind/linux/commits/droid4-pending-v5.16 | 07:12 |
| tmlind | and the pvr branch still has some patches missing from freemangordon so it will be a little while before we can do a m-l kernel based on the merged branches | 07:14 |
| tmlind | oh at least audio is broken in droid4-pending-v5.16, will take a look | 07:21 |
| tmlind | will continue tonight, bbl | 07:23 |
| tmlind | oh and now audio worked, seems like it can occasionally fail to load | 07:36 |
| Wizzup | tmlind: thanks for that, I'll try to look at setting up those branches once the pvr one is there | 10:31 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: looks like I have the error again with screen not turning on, but usbnet doesn't want to work now, hrm... | 10:58 |
| Wizzup | tmlind: uvos: I added this to droid4-pm, lmk if we should add more: https://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-pm/commit/ca197761e4c22b66c82ba1245e721d01e7d12e91.patch | 11:03 |
| Wizzup | We already turn off one cpu at times with mce | 11:03 |
| Wizzup | hm can't get in with serial either, so maybe something else is up | 11:13 |
| Wizzup | maybe it's a low battery :) | 11:14 |
| marabej | Hey Guys. Can Nokia N900 with Maemo Leste open in browser mobile version of facebook now in 2022 year? I mean using only messages part? I now that n900 has 256MB RAM only? | 13:52 |
| Wizzup | marabej: good question, you can try it with the surf browser, I don't have facebook so I can't check | 14:01 |
| Wizzup | doesn't facebook support xmpp for messages still? | 14:01 |
| marabej | I don't have nokia n900 yet. :) But it's itneresting retro device and I'm tempted to buy one for testing with linux. If it can work with facebook app, this is enough for me, facebook + terminal for remote access + some maps | 14:04 |
| Wizzup | I would suggest to try and find a motorola droid4 instead, more powerful | 14:05 |
| Wizzup | but n900 is also ok if you can find it | 14:05 |
| marabej | Yes of course, droid 4 has more RAM memory. Both are very rare in my country | 14:08 |
| Wizzup | right. there is also the droid 3 but we haven't gotten it to run stable yet (but hopefully will) | 14:10 |
| marabej | Is droid 4 with maemo leste reponsible, or it's sluggish? | 14:13 |
| Wizzup | it's very responsive for me | 14:14 |
| Wizzup | much more so than the n900 | 14:14 |
| mighty17[m] | freemangordon: https://paste.debian.net/1227495/ any clues why this happens? | 14:14 |
| L29Ah | MartijnBraam[m]: did you achieve full res pics and autofocus from N900 camera? | 14:16 |
| MartijnBraam[m] | ? | 14:16 |
| mighty17[m] | mighty17[m]: ig llvm updated? | 14:17 |
| L29Ah | i've noticed your work at https://git.sr.ht/~martijnbraam/megapixels-compat and i'm wondering how far it went | 14:17 |
| MartijnBraam[m] | didn't really work | 14:18 |
| MartijnBraam[m] | got no actual data from the sensor | 14:18 |
| sicelo | marabej: if you open m.facebook.com, n900 should manage just fine | 14:21 |
| sicelo | L29Ah: pavel got mostly green (matrix-style) pics out of it. Look in his tui repository | 14:23 |
| marabej | I don't have n900 and can't try. I think facebook don't support xmpp anymore. I just tried to connect with pidgin, but without success | 14:25 |
| sicelo | marabej: but yes, i also agree with Wizzup - don't buy N900 if you don't already have it and if you have another option. | 14:25 |
| sicelo | Yes , xmpp stopped the xmpp many years ago | 14:25 |
| sicelo | s/xmpp stopped/facebook stopped/ | 14:26 |
| Wizzup | too bad, ok | 14:26 |
| sicelo | But in Fremantle, there's a Messenger plugin for pidgin, which uses their messenger protocol. That one still works | 14:26 |
| marabej | sicelo: it's not enough to open m.facebook.com. There is no guarantee that the messages will work | 14:26 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: so the protocol is known/foss? | 14:27 |
| sicelo | Messages work in m.facebook | 14:37 |
| sicelo | marabej: messages works ilon m.facebook.com ... just not real time. You have to keep refreshing | 14:37 |
| sicelo | Wizzup: no, it's not, iirc. I think the plugin acts as a browser behind the scenes, or sth like that | 14:38 |
| Wizzup | oh, weird | 14:39 |
| Wizzup | ok | 14:39 |
| marabej | thnak you. Not realtime is better than nothing. And what about viber under linux? | 14:45 |
| Wizzup | uvos: when I click reply in sphone I think I get a window/message of the outgoing sms as incoming | 15:05 |
| Wizzup | marabej: no idea about civer | 15:05 |
| Wizzup | s/civer/viber/ | 15:05 |
| marabej | because, there is a linux client of viber :) | 15:06 |
| Wizzup | is it open source? | 15:08 |
| ikmaak | I do not know how much Weblate is used, but it just did some distraction by trying to fix the warnings on the NL strings. Hope it helps. | 15:09 |
| marabej | I thnik viber is not open source, but is official client from viber | 15:11 |
| sicelo | I doubt there's a linux client for viber on armv7/armhf | 15:18 |
| buZz | sicelo: box86 the x86 version? :) | 15:32 |
| Wizzup | seems like a lot of trouble for a closed protocol where the vendor doesn't really care if you use it | 15:33 |
| bencoh | viber is awfuly closed yeah | 15:38 |
| marabej | closed I agreed, but widespread messenger | 15:39 |
| marabej | and what about Google Maps on these devices + directions? Is it usable at all with Maemo leste? | 15:48 |
| marabej | I mean maps via WEB browser, because I don;t know if exist google maps client application | 15:49 |
| Wizzup | we have applications to use with map/gps, but not so much directions, definitely not google level quality | 15:50 |
| buZz | imho, OSM is higher quality than google | 15:51 |
| buZz | but indeed , no proper routing yet | 15:51 |
| buZz | marabej: fyi its better for your brain to not require directions from a map ;) | 15:51 |
| buZz | gets you more mental exercise, might even prevent some years of earlier dementia | 15:52 |
| Wizzup | in any case we're not android-level on many places | 15:52 |
| * buZz best salesperson | 15:52 | |
| buZz | Wizzup: and might never be | 15:52 |
| buZz | its not 1:1 same target, imho | 15:52 |
| marabej | Wizzup I know, but if the web browser can handle maps.google.com it's extremely useful because there is thousands of POIs :) | 15:53 |
| marabej | OSM is great, I agree | 15:55 |
| sicelo | I think a maps client will do better than a web browser (on N900) :-) | 15:56 |
| buZz | did that neo900 5000 euro replacement motherboard for n900 ever ship? | 15:57 |
| Wizzup | no | 15:59 |
| rafael2k | I used to use sigic maps in N900 | 16:01 |
| rafael2k | I read about modRana, will install soon to see how it goes | 16:01 |
| Wizzup | we have modrana in repo yeah | 16:05 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: did you test the pp kernel from our repo? | 16:05 |
| Wizzup | yay, am able to read incoming sms / irc messages now from telepathy-qt | 16:42 |
| sicelo | Awesome | 16:43 |
| sicelo | :-) | 16:43 |
| Wizzup | ultimately it wasn't too hard but had to learn a _lot_ | 16:44 |
| Wizzup | the way to connect was to set presence to available, then set auto connect to on, and then call ... "reconnect" | 16:45 |
| Wizzup | it wouldn't just connect | 16:45 |
| Wizzup | lol | 16:45 |
| Wizzup | but now I can just observe text channels on all connections | 16:46 |
| Wizzup | accounts rather | 16:46 |
| sicelo | It doesn't keep modem busy? iirc that's what i had with empathy, i.e. when empathy was active, any incoming call would get busy signal. I didn't spend more time testing however | 16:46 |
| tmlind | rafael2k: so the pinephone keyboard only charges pinephone pro, right? | 16:48 |
| tmlind | hmm maybe it charges pinephone too, the pro is listed as (pro) here https://www.pine64.org/2021/12/31/happy-new-year-the-keyboard-and-cases-are-here/ | 16:51 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: calls and tp-ring are another thing yes | 17:00 |
| sicelo | yeah. i mean ... set the SIM which is setup for SMS with telepathy-qt to be online, then call it from another phone. see if the 2nd phone gets a ringing signal or busy tone | 17:02 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: sure someone needs to handle it on the tp side | 17:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | has anyone used the keyboard yet? from images it looks awful to use handheld, thumbing? | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | I ordered it but it'll be delivered to my home so it will take a while for me to ge tit | 17:24 |
| Wizzup | I should get it at ome in ~6 days | 17:24 |
| tmlind | ok, i ordered one too and a replacement mobo for my old pinephone proto | 17:49 |
| Wizzup | I didn't get the pro yet fwiw | 17:49 |
| tmlind | sounds like it will be a while again before it will be usable :) | 17:50 |
| Wizzup | still worry about pm a lot | 17:50 |
| Wizzup | but I made a telepathy parrot program now (talks back on any account on any protocol that is supported) | 17:50 |
| Wizzup | next up is the logger and then I think we can integrate it in conversations | 17:51 |
| sicelo | (the facebook plugin - https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook ... should work in telepathy too) | 18:18 |
| Wizzup | oh, so it's not xmpp? | 18:18 |
| Wizzup | well good that it is maintained at least | 18:18 |
| Wizzup | right @ purple | 18:18 |
| Wizzup | hm ofono is saying it sent messages but it clearly didn't | 18:46 |
| Wizzup | hmmm they are all pending | 18:46 |
| Wizzup | wonder why | 18:47 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: will test now! | 19:36 |
| rafael2k | tmlind: The PP keyboard works for both pinephones, the "normal" and the pro | 19:37 |
| rafael2k | my pp keyboard should arrive next week, it already left China | 19:39 |
| Wizzup | mine is in .nl already - waiting to be released by customs | 19:39 |
| rafael2k | cool! with luck I'll have it before the weekend... but I think it is unlikely | 19:40 |
| rafael2k | Get:2 https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste beowulf-devel/pinephone arm64 linux-image-pine64 arm64 5.15.0-1+2m7.2 [33,3 MB] | 19:42 |
| Wizzup | :) | 19:44 |
| rafael2k | btw, I see your TP developments, but which will be the default Maemo-Leste SMS software, sphone or conversations? | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | if we keep fremantle logic, it should be conversations | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | but I think we are @ very early stage,so... who knows how it will pan out | 19:47 |
| Wizzup | right, things are in flux and it's possible we will integrate conversations in sphone framework somehow | 19:48 |
| Wizzup | in any case conversations as UI needs to do a lot just to function as UI, so we're just focussing on making that work | 19:48 |
| Wizzup | I might contribute a telepathy backend module for sphone calls this month | 19:48 |
| Wizzup | (telepathy-ring interferes with normal ofono calls) | 19:48 |
| rafael2k | cool! a tp backend for sphone seems a nice path! | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: what about video calls? I doubt sphone supports that | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | but yeah, lets not go into that now | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | as I am sure you will ask me about abook :) | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | yeah, real soon :P | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | I will test irc channels soon and then make a XMPP test account | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | and then start looking into integrating it in conversations | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | we'll also need some more of the rtcom stuff | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | something on fremantle handles the 'presence' (available, away/busy, offline) | 19:50 |
| freemangordon | yeah. I hope to send omapdrm patches tomorrow and then focus on abook | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | if offline, then something sets the accounts to offline | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | I am not sure if it is status applet or something else | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: it is telepathy | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | and abook is integrated with that | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | yes but someone must tell telepathy to do it, so I guess it is status applet + gconf setting that status applet reads | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | EDS has telepathu plugin | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | *telepathy | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | that is not my point, hang on | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | ah, yeah, I see | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | do you know how you get a green dot in the status when irc/msn/xmpp/etc is online? | 19:52 |
| Wizzup | it's called "Availability" in status menu | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | yes | 19:52 |
| Wizzup | I might need to RE that applet | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 19:52 |
| rafael2k | Linux devuan-pinephone 5.15.13 #1 SMP Mon Jan 17 10:55:07 UTC 2022 aarch64 GNU/Linux | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | I think it uses abook | 19:52 |
| rafael2k | All good here with the new kernel | 19:52 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I'd be surprised but maybe | 19:52 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: ok I'll test it later tonight as well! | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | will see | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | rafael2k: :) | 19:53 |
| rafael2k | : )) | 19:53 |
| rafael2k | Will play a bit with the sound setup | 19:53 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: great, ty | 19:54 |
| rafael2k | I will start using the pp as a music player in the car for now... ordering a cassete to P2 adapter for my old WV with tape... how I miss the FM transmitter of the N900 | 19:55 |
| rafael2k | :P | 19:55 |
| rafael2k | hopefully firefox will not crash in youtube playbacks | 19:57 |
| rafael2k | will also do some basic testing to see if I can setup the audio routing correctly for call recording | 19:59 |
| Wizzup | cool! | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | rafael2k: yeah, it is a pity there are no more phones with fmtx | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | speaking of which, n900 audio playback through car's BT audio sounds times better than android one | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | which is weird, I would expect newer BT protocols to handle HiFi audio better | 20:04 |
| sicelo | heh | 20:13 |
| * sicelo still keeps his music on N900 and plays it from there, even though through the years he's used such 'flagships' as Samsung S4 and S7 | 20:14 | |
| rafael2k | bt works with the firmware! | 20:38 |
| rafael2k | https://github.com/anarsoul/rtl8723bt-firmware | 20:38 |
| rafael2k | we need to package this ^ | 20:38 |
| rafael2k | fmtx is a really nice feature... | 20:39 |
| rafael2k | we also need firmware for one of the cameras: firmware-ov5640 | 20:42 |
| uvos | Wizzup: hmm? @sphone sms | 20:42 |
| uvos | Wizzup: it should just open the new sms window (the sphone gtk ui dosent do inline reply atm) | 20:42 |
| rafael2k | which is here: https://github.com/dragan-simic/ov5640-autofocus-firmware | 20:49 |
| Wizzup | uvos: 'reply' just sends myself a msg | 20:57 |
| uvos | Wizzup: where? | 20:57 |
| Wizzup | sphone incoming sms window | 20:57 |
| uvos | the new-sms window shows ofono? | 21:00 |
| Wizzup | afaik | 21:00 |
| Wizzup | I can check again in a bit | 21:00 |
| uvos | Wizzup: thats probubly the problem | 21:02 |
| uvos | https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/blob/3e5f4cea747f97dcfeddc1d9a15328ecce75b92a/src/modules/gui/gtk2/ui-messages-gtk.c#L300 | 21:02 |
| uvos | it cooses the default backend, instead of the backend the message was sent with | 21:03 |
| uvos | default is whatever is loaded last | 21:03 |
| uvos | so if you have comtest loaded after ofono | 21:03 |
| uvos | it will use that | 21:03 |
| uvos | (and comtest just loopsback your messages) | 21:03 |
| rafael2k | btw, guys, when you have time, please apply this to leste-config for pp: https://github.com/rafael2k/leste-config/commit/eaff465b9691de4562b3d296759645cb0f03f7e0 | 21:07 |
| rafael2k | I'll soon do another PR for audio | 21:07 |
| uvos | rafael2k: that should probubly be which iw or? | 21:09 |
| rafael2k | uvos: I don't understand your question | 21:10 |
| uvos | maybe get the path from which instead of hardcoding it, but then again maybe not, seams to go agains convetion | 21:11 |
| uvos | probubly to make it harder for udev execing things to be used as privilage escallation | 21:12 |
| uvos | so nvm | 21:12 |
| rafael2k | ? | 21:12 |
| rafael2k | the path is wrong | 21:12 |
| rafael2k | just this | 21:12 |
| rafael2k | iw should be in /sbin/ and when "unified usr" arrives, it should just continue to work | 21:13 |
| rafael2k | better keep the path wrong and discuss about using which or not to find the path? really? | 21:17 |
| uvos | your being way to touchy. i was just wondering out loud if using which would be perferable to correcting the path, it would not, end of story. | 21:20 |
| rafael2k | I'm just trying to understand how to contribute to Maemo without begging to have simple patchs committed. end of story. | 21:22 |
| sicelo | I actually like the usage of udev for wlan power saving in this MR. Nice | 21:24 |
| rafael2k | [ 12.542517] udevd[908]: failed to execute '/usr/sbin/iw' '/usr/sbin/iw wlan0 set power_save off': No such file or directory | 21:25 |
| rafael2k | I like too ^ | 21:25 |
| sicelo | I actually wonder if it should even go to PP ... seems like a nice to have for all devices | 21:26 |
| rafael2k | this is not bad indeded | 21:27 |
| rafael2k | if the chips support it, why not | 21:27 |
| Wizzup | uvos: aha @ comtest | 21:28 |
| uvos | in all other places sphone uses the backend in the message struct | 21:33 |
| uvos | i just forgot to migrate this one | 21:33 |
| uvos | feal free to do so, i wont be working on sphone for a while | 21:33 |
| Wizzup | it's ok, I'm deep in tp stuff atm, just wanted to report | 21:50 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: can you do a leste-config pr? | 21:51 |
| Wizzup | then I will do it today/tonight | 21:51 |
| Wizzup | :) | 21:51 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: done a couple of days ago - https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/29 | 22:00 |
| rafael2k | lemme know if you want me to make the commit cleaner | 22:01 |
| rafael2k | I wish git would pick just the latest commit, but it included in the PR some commits that change nothing | 22:02 |
| lel | rafael2k synchronize a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/29 (set correct path to iw) | 22:02 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: sorry I missed it, life has been busy | 22:04 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: you can rebase to fix PRs | 22:05 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: do you just want the path fix in there? | 22:07 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: just fix the way you lose less time... just strip "/usr" from iw path | 22:08 |
| rafael2k | I'm trying to fix the audio here | 22:08 |
| rafael2k | then I want to create the package for bluetooth firmware | 22:09 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: fwiw you can make seperate branches for PRs with juts specific commits | 22:10 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: sounds great | 22:10 |
| Wizzup | brb ~50mins | 22:10 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: right, I will create branches for the PRs | 22:11 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: ok, either way is fine, just let me know | 22:49 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: just commit the patch https://github.com/rafael2k/leste-config/commit/eaff465b9691de4562b3d296759645cb0f03f7e0 | 22:51 |
| rafael2k | still fighting with alsa-ucm... | 22:52 |
| Wizzup | check | 22:52 |
| rafael2k | lsaucm: error failed to open sound card hw:0: No such file or directory | 22:53 |
| rafael2k | :( | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: pushed that to master | 22:54 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup: tks! | 22:56 |
| rafael2k | may be I'm just tires, but Wizzup, when you get to your pp, try see the output of alsaucm reload | 23:10 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: ok | 23:11 |
| rafael2k | aplay works just fine | 23:14 |
| rafael2k | but it seems ucm has some issue | 23:14 |
| Wizzup | uvos: do ofono pending messages clear out for you in dbus or do you keep seeing them? | 23:15 |
| rafael2k | ok, for now, lets blacklist or remove hdmi audio in pp... he was the trouble maker. may be it is just me tired, but blacklist the new alsa hdmi audio module made things work again | 23:18 |
| Wizzup | ok | 23:18 |
| rafael2k | btw, hdmi audio is not ok, but alsa-ucm is also not ok... even sphone is complaining | 23:43 |
| rafael2k | sphone: route-pulseaudio: failure: set ucm profile to HiFi No such entity | 23:43 |
| rafael2k | I dunno if I fucked-up accidentally my alsa-ucm setup, or may be the alsa userland is not enjoying the new kernel... | 23:43 |
| rafael2k | ha, stopping pulseaudio makes sound work perfect | 23:45 |
| rafael2k | how I hate pulseaudio... and miss good ol' OSS times | 23:45 |
| lel | MerlijnWajer closed a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/29 (set correct path to iw) | 23:45 |
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