libera/#maemo-leste/ Saturday, 2022-02-05

sicelohuckg, gpodder is a terminal application? I was asking what the volume keys do in gpodder07:59
humpelstilzchen[gpodder is X08:34
humpelstilzchen[gtk08:35
WunderWungielHello :)09:38
WunderWungielIs it possible to boot Maemo Leste on N900 via Multiboot rather than U-Boot?09:39
freemangordonuvos: is there a reliable way to make Xorg crash on chvt?09:39
freemangordonalso, did that work before I changed ddx?09:41
freemangordonWizzup: I see "[drm:omap_crtc_framedone_irq [omapdrm]] lcd: apply done" every 200 ms on d4 (with drm debug enabled)10:13
freemangordonwaking up 5 times a second is not good for battery I guess10:13
freemangordonwhy do we still carry "get fbdev working for manually updated display"?10:14
freemangordonuvos: It seems we have an issue when we want to switch vt 1 (rotated console) to vt 7 (non-rotated Xorg)10:28
freemangordonnon-rotated BOs does not support setting the rotation property10:29
freemangordonI doubt this has ever worked10:29
Wizzupfreemangordon: we stopped carring it, then I saw some problem, added it again, but we can remove it again11:44
_inkyit warms my heart to see the pinephone related commits, because... again, though i loooove old hw, the community today that choses mobile operating systems is gathered around pinephone. pinephone is what can bring more devs and users to maemo, and i want our maemo be great again. (:11:49
Wizzupmhm11:57
WizzupI think if we have a sustainable OS I hope some people will add some ports based on hybris stuff, so we can join in on the recycling fun11:58
siceloSeems many foss projects have a love-hate relationship with libhyris12:01
Wizzupyeah12:03
Wizzupiirc someone did it already (notkit?)12:03
Wizzupnot sure how complete it was of course12:03
* freemangordon hates libhybris12:44
* MartijnBraam[m] too12:44
WizzupI never used it tbh, not saying we should go that direction to be clear12:49
Wizzupbut basically the entire recycling domain for projects that use some form of android to provide the support, given -how much- times it takes to do mainlining of one device12:49
WizzupI've been looking at maybe getting some droids, refurbishing and distributing them, but for the devices we support this is really hard already (apart maybe from the bionic)12:50
Wizzuphence my brief thought in that direction :)12:50
rafael2kpp keyboard is working!!12:56
rafael2k: ))12:56
Wizzuprafael2k: great12:57
Wizzuprafael2k: do you know what is needed for modem? I think others also don't see the modem12:57
Wizzupso some file or script must be missing12:57
rafael2kmodem is working just fine12:58
Wizzupok, but not for others12:58
rafael2k?12:58
Wizzupnone of us see it in ofono12:58
Wizzupso there is something different from your setup and the rest12:58
rafael2kdo you have atinout?12:58
Wizzuplet me boot it12:58
humpelstilzchen[atinout is installed here12:59
Wizzupsame13:00
Wizzuphmm wait, I see it now13:00
Wizzup# mdbus2 -s org.ofono /quectelqmi_0 org.ofono.Modem.GetProperties13:00
Wizzup({'Online': <false>, 'Powered': <true>, 'Lockdown': <false>, 'Emergency': <false>, 'Manufacturer': <'QUALCOMM INCORPORATED'>, 'Model': <'QUECTEL Mobile Broadband Module'>, 'Revision': <'EG25GGBR07A07M2G'>, 'Serial': <'867698040415039'>, 'SystemPath': <'/sys/devices/platform/soc/1c1b000.usb/usb2/2-1'>, 'Interfaces': <['org.ofono.SimManager', 'org.ofono.VoiceCallManager']>, 'Features': <['sim']>,13:00
rafael2kdo you have a sim card (dummy question... but ut is obvious)13:00
Wizzup'Type': <'hardware'>},)13:00
rafael2k'Online': <false>,13:01
Wizzuprafael2k: the problem was that I didn't even see it in ofono13:01
Wizzupso this is progress13:01
rafael2k /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems says what?13:02
rafael2kyou modem seems not online13:03
Wizzuprafael2k: again, my problem was that the modem wasn't even visible in ofono13:03
Wizzupso this is an improvement13:03
WizzupI will upgrade, insert sim, and see13:03
rafael2kkernel has problem support, and maemo boot scripts are bit suspicious with some hardcoded at commands, but nothing wrong with them13:04
rafael2k*has proper support13:04
Wizzupmaybe there is a race13:04
Wizzupe.g. ofono should depend on some atinout script13:04
Wizzupwill see.13:05
rafael2kthis atinout stuff needs to go away asap...13:05
Wizzupjust wondering, why?13:05
rafael2kbecause we have ofono?13:05
rafael2k:P13:05
rafael2kand better keep with one interface13:05
rafael2kwe are going not to use AT13:05
WizzupHow does do other distros do it?13:06
Wizzups/How does/How do/13:06
rafael2kso lets not use AT directly13:06
rafael2kmm or ofono13:06
rafael2kthrough qmi interface13:06
Wizzup?13:06
Wizzupok, I see the modem also on reboot13:07
Wizzuphumpelstilzchen[: maybe you didn't have ofono installed?13:07
Wizzupno, wait, you saw the bt stuff13:07
humpelstilzchen[I wonder if bluetooth works13:09
rafael2kyes, it works with proper firmware installed13:10
rafael2kI already posted here the packaging work of the bt firmware13:11
rafael2khttps://github.com/rafael2k/linux-firmware-pine64-rtl8723-bt13:13
Wizzupso we just need a pkg for it in our repos?13:13
rafael2kyes13:13
rafael2kshit, just burned my pp keyboard13:13
rafael2koooo noooooooo13:13
Wizzuphuh, how?13:13
rafael2kI dunno, just that nice smoke and it stopped working13:14
rafael2kI suspect the psu...13:14
rafael2k:(13:14
humpelstilzchen[rafael2k: any USB-stuff inserted?13:14
Wizzuprafael2k: well that shouldn't just happen, should it13:14
rafael2kI wasnt expecting that certainly...13:15
Wizzup(also: sucks!)13:15
Wizzupdid it happen on connect or something?13:15
rafael2kthat is really disapointing...13:15
rafael2kjust after a couple of minutes13:15
WizzupMartijnBraam[m]: do you know of any more reports of that?13:15
rafael2kit was working13:15
Wizzuprafael2k: I'm sure they'll send you a new one if it just starts to smoke13:16
rafael2kI wrote to them with the description of what happened13:16
rafael2kshit... my 2 minutes of happiness went away13:17
humpelstilzchen[:(13:17
rafael2khumpelstilzchen[: if you just want to "make install" the bt firmware, use this: https://github.com/anarsoul/rtl8723bt-firmware/13:22
humpelstilzchen[rafael2k: thx, but I just "stole" the 3 files from mobian13:22
humpelstilzchen[and it works13:22
humpelstilzchen[...I think at least I get hci013:22
rafael2kyeap, that is the same13:23
freemangordonisn'd that packaged in debian?13:23
freemangordon*isn't13:23
humpelstilzchen[no: https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=rtl8723bs_config.bin&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any13:24
Wizzupwe can package it, but we have no userspace for any of this :)13:24
freemangordonyeah13:25
freemangordonuh, I will have to work on that one as well13:25
Wizzuplet's please skip BT until we have other stuff working :D13:25
freemangordonsure13:26
humpelstilzchen[would it hurt to package the firmware now?13:26
Wizzupno, I'll pakage it today13:26
WizzupI just meant the userspace part, that's weeks or work probably :)13:26
freemangordonrather months13:27
Wizzupright13:27
freemangordonlibconnbtui13:27
WizzupI'd rather have more abook and rtcom first :D13:27
freemangordonsure13:27
freemangordonWizzup: do you have some old d4 setup around (in terms of omap ddx) to test the issue uvos has with chvt13:28
Wizzupno, but I have old images, and I am sure it didn't work then either13:28
freemangordonbecause I don;t think it is a regression13:28
freemangordon:nod:13:28
Wizzupso if you only want to chase regressions, don't bother13:28
freemangordonyeah13:29
freemangordonI am afraid I lack the knowledge to properly fix that13:29
freemangordonthough, maybe it worths trying13:29
MartijnBraam[m]there was one dev unit of the keyboard that had the specacularly-die-with-a-cloud-of-smoke issue, that should be fixed with the units shipped to end users13:30
MartijnBraam[m]was the keyboard controller MCU getting backfed power through GPIO13:30
MartijnBraam[m]could happen when plugging in the keyboard case when the device was on13:30
Wizzupfreemangordon: I think it doesn't make sense at this point, I don't think fremantle can do it either, and I don't see the immediate use case13:30
Wizzupfreemangordon: maybe later, imo13:31
freemangordonyeah, ok13:31
MartijnBraam[m]at least 2 minutes of usage should be within the 1 month of warrenty from pine...13:31
freemangordonWizzup: we shall revert 860382142f5b4f39ceaf28011c6b802745777bd4 and "get fbdev working for manually updated display" though13:32
freemangordonactually it seems it is the first one that causes wakeup 5 times/s13:33
freemangordonbut we don't need either of those IIUC13:33
Wizzupwill do13:34
rafael2kWizzup: we do have userspace for bt13:36
rafael2kand it is working fine13:36
Wizzuprafael2k: even though we speak english we don't always speak the same language, for me userspace refers to -maemo ui and maemo integration-13:37
Wizzup:D13:37
rafael2kMartijnBraam[m]: tks13:38
rafael2kMartijnBraam[m]: support@pine64.org is the contact to write to, right?13:38
Wizzupfreemangordon: will build that kernel now for -devel, or anything else to wait for?13:38
rafael2kWizzup: well... userspace is userspace...13:39
Wizzuprafael2k: I don't want to argue the definitions, I'm just explaining what I mean, I know there is some complementary userspace to test some bt stuff, but we lack all maemo integration13:39
WizzupI'll get it packaged today13:40
Wizzup(the firmware)13:40
rafael2k: )13:40
rafael2klets not forget we still have devuan repo full of software useful to many13:41
rafael2kanyway, I'll try to find wtf happened to the keyboard... most likelly the charger controller burned13:42
Wizzuprafael2k: were you plugging in the kbd when the phone was on?13:43
Wizzupor did it just ... happen13:44
rafael2kit was off13:47
Wizzupok13:47
rafael2kthen I plugged it13:47
rafael2kit was working13:47
Wizzupok, so I can  get 4g data on the pp ok13:47
rafael2kthen I plugged the charger in the keyboard/battery pack, and it burned13:47
rafael2kcool!13:47
Wizzupso now we need to figure out why it doesn't work humpelstilzchen[ :)13:48
sicelobtw there's also pinephone pro now, and ... would be nice for Leste to support it :-)13:48
WizzupI didn't try to buy it yet, and yes it would13:48
rafael2kwe just need new u-boot and install the dtbs from our kernel13:49
rafael2kkernel itself support is already there13:49
WizzupI am not sure about 3d, it's not lima I assum13:49
Wizzupmaybe panfrost?13:49
rafael2kof course then we'll also need alsa, gpu and so on13:49
WizzupI personally didn't want to ask pine64 for one until we had lima stuff sorted out on the pp, which we have now13:50
Wizzupbrb13:51
rafael2kI need with to debug wtf is happening with PA14:04
rafael2kI booted moblin, and it is still in the 5.1014:05
rafael2k:/14:05
rafael2k(*mobian)14:05
Wizzupit sounds very likely that the UCM version just doesn't match ucm userspace14:06
Wizzupthat would explain pretty much everything14:06
Wizzupdo you have a link handy to the ucm file?14:07
Wizzupmaybe we can just fix it up14:07
rafael2kbut alsa works14:08
rafael2kthat is the strange, and I tweaked ucm in order it does not complain14:08
rafael2kucm is a simple piece of software14:08
rafael2kand still PA is totally fucked up, even when I manage to make it spit some sound, samplerate is fucked up14:09
rafael2kcould be ucm, I'm not saying it is not it... but it is just strange as I tested really many different stuff in ucm side14:10
rafael2kalsa seems happy14:10
Wizzupwe use ucm+pa with no problems on mapphones at least14:11
WizzupI can test in ~2-3 hours when I get back, maybe help out14:11
rafael2ktks!14:15
rafael2kmay be I'm blind to the problem as I even tried to tweak pa config...14:16
rafael2kI don't really want to try newer versions because as you said... it works with other setups just fine14:16
rafael2kand indeed, lower level support is working14:16
MartijnBraam[m]rafael2k: support@pine64.org or sales@pine64.org, I can never remember14:18
Wizzuprafael2k: can you link the stuff that I need to test?14:20
rafael2kMartijnBraam[m]: tks!14:45
rafael2kWizzup: there is no link... it is just the audio setup14:45
rafael2kleste-config ...14:46
rafael2kI tested everything "easy" I could get (like copying over ucm files)14:46
rafael2knothing really solved14:46
rafael2khttps://gitlab.com/mobian1/packages/alsa-ucm-conf/14:49
rafael2kthis is ucm files from mobian, here specifically: https://gitlab.com/mobian1/packages/alsa-ucm-conf/-/tree/mobian/debian/patches14:50
rafael2kbut I tested them tbh...14:50
rafael2kThe last resort would be to rollback to kernel 5.10 as used in mobian stable (I'll upgrade to mobian unstable and see if I get sound)14:55
Wizzuprafael2k: ok16:04
Wizzuprafael2k: no, let's not downgrade16:04
freemangordonWizzup: btw, how is omap ddx behaving? is it stable?16:26
Wizzupso far, yes16:26
Wizzuphave had no crashes or obvious leaks16:26
freemangordongreat16:27
freemangordonok, I'll have a look at special symbols vkb and will go back to abook16:27
freemangordonI hope I am not missing anything I promised to do16:28
Wizzupdon't think so, although if you're on him then maybe figuring out why keyboard layout switch doesn't work can be useful, but not a big deal16:29
Wizzuprafael2k: hm yeah pulse seems odd, but also alsa output is WAY to loud16:29
freemangordonyeah, will do16:30
Wizzuprafael2k: and it sounds bad16:30
WizzupI do see: I: [pulseaudio] (alsa-lib)main.c: error: failed to import sun50i-a64-hdmi use case configuration -216:31
Wizzupand:16:32
WizzupI: [pulseaudio] module-udev-detect.c: Card /devices/platform/hdmi-sound/sound/card1 (alsa_card.1) module loaded.16:32
WizzupI: [pulseaudio] (alsa-lib)main.c: error: failed to import PinePhone use case configuration -216:32
WizzupI: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM not available for card PinePhone16:32
Wizzup/usr/share/alsa/ucm2/simple-card/PinePhone.conf16:34
Wizzup3952  faccessat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/alsa/ucm2/simple-card/PinePhone.conf", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)16:34
Wizzuprafael2k: works!16:36
Wizzupall you need to do is rename PinePhone directory to simple-card16:36
WizzupI'll modify leste-config-pinephone for this16:36
xmnnice!!16:39
Wizzupfreemangordon: so shall I build the kernel for stable? the one with the two commits reverted?16:42
Wizzupfreemangordon: I tested it on my droid and it builds ok16:42
Wizzupfreemangordon: you don't get it automatically from -devel because the version got reset (probably a reprepro mistake on my end)16:42
Wizzuprafael2k: pushed fix btw17:25
lelMerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/588 (Create rsyslog maemo specific config/logging)17:26
Wizzupfreemangordon: ping, are you busy, or around to help me think through a problem?17:34
WizzupI *think* the problem that we don't have the uImage on the n900 is that we don't specify that *on n900* the linux-image-omap depends on the maemo-kernel-config-n900 package17:36
Wizzupbut I don't know how to do that without breaking the other devices17:37
Wizzupperhaps I need to introduce a maemo-kernel-config-mapphone package that just contains nothing, and both provide some virtual? I don't really know17:37
Wizzupand then linux-image-omap could depend on the virtual17:37
WizzupI think I've fixed it, let's see in a few hours.17:53
freemangordonWizzup: busy now, have to cook dinner, laters18:24
freemangordonsorry18:25
rafael2kWizzup: yay yay yay!!!18:28
rafael2kyou are the one!18:28
rafael2kI knew I was blind to some simple shit18:29
rafael2kfor some minutes when the keyboard was worked I had a flashback of my Jornada 710 running Debian18:32
rafael2ks/worked/working18:32
rafael2kwhat I really want in maemo is to replicate my software stack from my desktop, like emacs config, irc and so on... this is why sometimes I dont care sooo much about maemo doing everything. but indeed, bt support in the ui is not bad.18:35
rafael2knext thing I will focus a bit is camera18:36
rafael2khaving an app to take pictures is not bad18:36
rafael2k: )18:36
rafael2kI remember N900 was just great, and there were good apps also18:37
rafael2kthe pp cameras are not thaaat great, but seem to work ok18:37
rafael2kstrace saving lifes18:40
rafael2knew u-boot!  that is good stuff!18:42
rafael2kbtw - warning to anyone with a pp keyboard - take care with the psu - it should _only_ ouput 5V!18:44
Wizzuprafael2k: so did the upgrade fix it for you?18:49
rafael2kyes - I'm listeing to some punk already!!18:49
Wizzup:)18:49
Wizzupfreemangordon: no worries, I think I figured it out18:49
rafael2kbtw, pavucontrol crashes X sometimes, when clicking in many stuff during a couple of minutes18:50
rafael2k(I'm listening to music using mplayer so it does not stop, but X crashed some time ago already)18:51
rafael2k(X crashes indeed pretty often, I could be a core dump and take a look in the line that crashed... if you can give me any hint on this)18:52
rafael2kany way to easily enable core dump?18:53
Wizzuphm I haven't seen it crash often, but I don't use it as much as you do18:53
Wizzuprafael2k: maybe just attach gdb pre-crash18:53
rafael2kgood idea18:59
rafael2kbtw, inserting phone jack to the phone does not re-route audio properly19:00
rafael2kI'm not sure if this is implemented in ucm, but at least kernel-wise I see messages like "jack: irq plug-in", "jack: plug-in reported" and so on19:01
Wizzuprafael2k: what if you add: load-module module-switch-on-port-available19:01
Wizzupso /etc/pulse/system.pa19:01
Wizzupto*19:01
rafael2klemme try19:01
Wizzupofc. restart pulse19:02
rafael2kbtw, for X, should I install the symbol packages right? to get proper backtrace info19:05
rafael2k(or it is all already shipped with debug symbols?)19:06
Wizzupno, debug symbols are separate packages19:06
rafael2kWizzup: load-module module-switch-on-port-available19:07
rafael2kit works!19:07
rafael2kok, tks19:07
Wizzupyeah so it would be nice to have something like this in a pulse config: .include /etc/pulse/system.pa.d19:08
Wizzupbut it's not, so we can't ship extra files and have them get auto loaded...19:08
Wizzupmaybe daemon.conf.d can work somehow19:09
rafael2klemme take a look19:09
rafael2kmy hatry to pa only grows over time19:09
Wizzupin this case there was nothing wrong with pa, just the ucm file name was wrong19:10
Wizzupand it looks like daemon.conf.d is not the same19:10
rafael2kno no19:10
rafael2kin case of system.pa19:10
Wizzupyeah so I checked and it does not have that line19:10
rafael2knot having a ... .d/ dir19:10
Wizzupwell, we can make the dir, but iirc we need a line in the conf file to read from the dir19:11
rafael2kand most likely repackage that *&#$%$$#% to add a include ... .d/*19:15
Wizzupthere are other things we can do19:16
rafael2kI hope pipewire does not repeat the mistakes of esd, pulseaudio and the others19:17
rafael2kat least the name is cool19:17
humpelstilzchen[so..sound should work now?19:21
rafael2kit is, yes19:22
rafael2klemme try a phone call, just to be sure all works19:23
Wizzuphumpelstilzchen[: apt upgrade should get you the fix already19:24
Wizzupthen just reboot19:24
Wizzupthat is not for hp pluggin19:24
rafael2kaudio routing for phone calls have problem19:26
rafael2k:(19:26
WizzupI don't know how this works in pulse at all, did it ever in our setup?19:26
rafael2kyes, it was working19:27
rafael2kit is just a ucm2 profile19:28
rafael2kbut at least there are no strange sounds as before19:28
rafael2kjust no sound at all19:28
rafael2ksphone sets the profile19:29
Wizzupmaybe check what the profile does and how it works with alsa19:29
WizzupI haven't tried this before on PP19:29
rafael2kI will, I realized new sphone version, and also the ucm2 stuff changed a bit, I'll take a look19:30
rafael2kha19:31
humpelstilzchen[yay, sound works19:31
rafael2kaudio works fine, but I had to change the profile in pavucontrol19:31
rafael2kmay be the profile name changed, and sphone got confused19:32
Wizzuprafael2k: so call audio works ok, but sphone does not select it for you?19:32
Wizzuphumpelstilzchen[: good19:32
rafael2kyes19:32
rafael2kaudio works fine in a phone call, when proper profile is selected19:32
Wizzupcool :)19:32
rafael2k: ))19:33
Wizzupmaybe work with uvos to get it fixed19:33
rafael2ksure, I'll looking at the logs19:33
rafael2kfor the record, I select the profile in pavucontrol "Make a phone call" to make the audio in a call work19:33
Wizzupright19:34
freemangordonobviously I am missing something as I have no sound in FF (YT) on neither d4 nor PP19:58
Wizzupfreemangordon: in PP you might need the PA line as well to switch20:03
freemangordonswitch what?20:06
Wizzup load-module module-switch-on-port-available20:07
Wizzupto switch on hp20:07
Wizzupfreemangordon: also did you get my fix20:07
freemangordonI just upgraded20:07
Wizzupfreemangordon: like ~2hrs ago20:07
Wizzupand restart?20:07
freemangordonyes20:07
Wizzuppp or d420:07
Wizzupcan you try with mpv or something20:07
freemangordonPP20:07
freemangordonanyway, it seems xorg hung too, will play with that tomorrow20:08
Wizzuphmm20:08
freemangordonis this normal? https://pastebin.com/pvVRLfpM20:09
Wizzupyes20:09
Wizzup"normal"20:09
freemangordonok :)20:09
Wizzuphdmi audio should not matter for you20:09
freemangordonah, hdmi :)20:10
freemangordonyeah20:10
Wizzupfreemangordon: but try something other than firefox perhaps20:23
WizzupI haven't tried firefox20:23
rafael2kI had to set the correct output in pavucontrol20:23
rafael2k(in pp)20:23
rafael2kselect "Buit-in Audio Headset + Internal Earpiece + Internal Speaker", instead of the default which appear to mplayer "Built-in Audio Stereo"20:27
WizzupI did that too yeah20:27
rafael2k(it would be nice if it goes automagically to the correct one..., but one step after the other :P )20:28
humpelstilzchen[did anyone got a picture out of the pinephone camera?20:36
Wizzupany opinions on a default dns server if none is provided over dhcp?20:36
humpelstilzchen[wasn't there a free alternative to 8.8.8.8?20:36
Wizzupnot sure, I know there is also 1.1.1.1 and there might be others20:38
Wizzupright now if none is provided over dhcp we just have ... none20:38
Wizzupmaybe 9.9.9.9 ?20:38
humpelstilzchen[I trust cloudflare as much as google20:38
Wizzuphttps://securitytrails.com/blog/dns-servers-privacy-security20:39
humpelstilzchen[Quad9 sounds ok20:39
Wizzuphumpelstilzchen[: 9.9.9.9 is not CF though, but 1.1.1.1 is,  and agreed wrt trust20:39
Wizzuphttps://github.com/maemo-leste/libicd-network-ipv4/commit/49afd837bf5a7764c0cc59854aad2b01175088a420:45
Wizzupfreemangordon (and others) ^^ feedback welcome20:45
Wizzupfreemangordon: uvos: btw, I pushed the rsyslog changes and debugfs to devel as well21:15
lelMerlijnWajer created a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste/linux-firmware-pine64-rtl8723-bt21:18
rafael2khumpelstilzchen[: I got some pics, yes21:58
humpelstilzchen[rafael2k: with the current 5.15.13 kernel? Is there any magic to do beside the media-ctl/v4l2-ctl commands?22:00
Wizzuprafael2k: the fw should be in repos in a few mins now22:00
Wizzupnow, anyway22:04
Wizzupfreemangordon: looks like rtcom presence ui status applet does a lot22:28
Wizzupincluding sounds, editing configs, location requests and iphb22:28
Wizzupit's about 80kB22:29
Wizzuplooks like uImage will be in the n900 image :)22:33
lelMerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/598 (Package/merge ofono patches for pinephone)22:42
lelMerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/597 (Maemo current kernel for Pinephone has no telephony support)22:42
lelMerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/589 (Try new xorg server (with patches) and gles-glamor on pinephone/lima)22:43
Wizzupsicelo: should we pull this in? https://github.com/maemo-leste/n9xx-linux/commit/f1df290b4af3801d314782930cb34f0e7945b2be22:46
lelMerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/587 (N900 Linux 5.15)22:47
lelMerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/586 (osso-xterm selects, instead of scrolling in portrait mode.)22:47
siceloI don't really use it myself, but I recall someone desperately needed it, so yeah, please add it22:48
Wizzupsicelo: ok22:50
lelMerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/578 (N900: screen rotation segfaults in sgx_exa_update_pixmap)22:52
Wizzupfreemangordon: ^^ hmm was that actually fixed, now I forgot :)22:52
Wizzupno problem if not, then I should re-open it22:52
* Wizzup reopens23:09
Wizzupwell technically the segfault is fixed..23:10
Wizzupalso the n900 dev image builds23:10
Wizzupgreeat23:10
sixwheeledbeastRe DNS I prefer Cisco OpenDNS23:15
Wizzupany particular reasons?23:18
WizzupInformation about your DNS and IP address are both stored by OpenDNS, and web content you visit while using their servers is analyzed and used for various reasons, such as personalizing, improving and enhancing user experience, as stated in their privacy policy.23:19
Wizzupthis didn't seem super appealing to me23:19
sixwheeledbeastIt's not Google or Cloudflare and have used since before Cisco.23:20
Wizzupquad9 seems to not log ip addrs23:20
WizzupI think that's kinda neat23:21
Wizzupbut open for alternatives really23:21
Wizzupand this also an edge case - it's not the defacto default23:21
Wizzupit's just -if- none is provided23:21
sixwheeledbeastI can't say I have looked at the privacy policy since pre Cisco23:21
sixwheeledbeastWhat about the speed and reliability?23:21
WizzupI just took this for granted https://securitytrails.com/blog/dns-servers-privacy-security23:22
Palistupid question, but why not to use own local rdns running on localhost? instead of using all those public rdns services (from google, cloudflare, cisco, etc...)23:23
sixwheeledbeastwell that ip I don't recognise23:24
WizzupPali: we have dnsmasq atm23:25
sixwheeledbeastoh that's the filtered dns23:25
WizzupPali: are you suggesting something like unbound?23:25
PaliWizzup: dnsmasq is forwarder, so it does not work without external rdns sever23:25
PaliWizzup: yes!23:25
Paliunbound in full recursive mode23:25
Pali(This setup I'm using on all my "home" routers for 10 years and nobody complain)23:26
Wizzupwe could certainly try it / do it - although I can imagine it being a problem on networks that block anything but say their dns23:36
Wizzupairport wifi or something23:36
sixwheeledbeastI imagine it maybe a little slower?23:38
WizzupI think lel broke again23:41
WizzupPali: we could also make it the fallback in case none is provided/available23:42
Palisixwheeledbeast: on home networks nobody complained yet about slow speed...23:44
PaliWizzup: yes, on blocked networks it would not work... on these networks you have to use network rdns server23:44
Palithe best is to do simple check to verify dnssec signature of the root zone... and if it fails then fallback to provider rdns from dhcp23:45
Wizzuphm, I wonder where we would do this, currently we set dns server in udhcp script23:46
freemangordonWizzup: well, if by "fixed" we mean "refuses to rotate at all" then yes :)23:50
freemangordonwe still need VRFB23:50
Wizzupright23:50
Wizzuplel: ping23:52
Wizzupok its back23:55

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