libera/#maemo-leste/ Sunday, 2022-05-29

missMyN900uvos: https://pastebin.com/6w06b5ne00:11
siceloI think your repositories aren't setup correctly. E.g. do you have the -devel repository enabled?08:09
buZzhmmf, i think my d4 lost capability of receiving SMS ? :(08:49
buZzhmm, well, i know for a fact i didnt receive some SMSs , but booting to android does not make em come in , so it seems, leste did receive then, but didnt add them to the database09:05
xmnSometime they get stuck, at least on the pinephone they did.09:21
xmnSo you would need to send a flush type of cmd to the modem I think.09:22
xmnI may be remembering this wrong, it's late :) or earlier ... hmm09:22
buZzi discovered you can send SMS with '*0#' as start txt, and it will send a delivery report to your phone09:31
buZzjust sent myself one in android , arrived, didnt get report, powered off, rebooted to leste, refreshed icd2 to get 2G and operator name in statusmenu, and the delivery report came in09:32
buZz¯\_(ツ)_/¯09:32
Wizzupyes, this can happen with the ofono bug10:03
Wizzupgoing to see if I can get my pinephone keyboard to work again10:40
Wizzup# zgrep FEI /proc/config.gz10:41
WizzupCONFIG_DRM_PANEL_FEIXIN_K101_IM2BA02=y10:41
WizzupCONFIG_DRM_PANEL_FEIYANG_FY07024DI26A30D=y10:41
Wizzupok10:41
Wizzupso if I can upgrade my pinetab then it should work10:41
Wizzuplooks like the backlight turns on11:08
Wizzupbut:11:08
Wizzup[    2.554657] sun4i-drm display-engine: No panel or bridge found... RGB output disabled11:08
Wizzupbbiab11:09
mighty17[m]why dont we have CLK32KAUDIO in twl6030 in mainline?11:36
mighty17[m]https://github.com/Unlegacy-Android/android_kernel_ti_omap4/blob/3.0/common/drivers/regulator/twl-regulator.c#L110011:37
freemangordonhttps://github.com/maemo-leste/rtcom-accounts-plugins/commit/80dc281f4cdec948a8d971854d1acccc5cd8bdf015:13
freemangordon:)15:13
bencoh:)15:14
freemangordonWizzup: (and others ofc) please upgrade and test when have some spare time15:28
_uvos_norayr: i would only buy a d3/m3 if a d4 is unobtanium19:39
_uvos_its case is slightly nicer (not as nice as d1/2) and its a bit smaller for same screen size19:40
_uvos_other than that its just worse than d419:40
Wizzupfreemangordon: wait did you add haze?20:30
WizzupI see XMPP (haze) and Jabber (gabble)20:30
Wizzupit doesn't work and hangs the status dialog20:32
Wizzupdialog, and then the status applet, I think20:32
Wizzuphm nvm20:33
Wizzupit doesn't work though20:33
Wizzupfreemangordon: I suppose a sip plugin could be interesting too, although we'll have to do a lot of work to just support the existing plugins already20:37
Wizzupsince xmpp can also make calls20:37
Wizzupnorayr: ok, I am close to figuring out how to add privs in jenkins per project...20:59
WizzupI think it is this https://plugins.jenkins.io/matrix-auth/20:59
Wizzuphmm it is set to https://plugins.jenkins.io/role-strategy/21:02
Wizzupok, got it...21:03
missMyN900sicelo: I need to enable devel for hildon-connectivity-mobile? I guess I will pass then...21:05
Wizzupnorayr: done21:06
WizzupmissMyN900: yeah, for now that is still the case21:06
missMyN900:(21:06
missMyN900I don't really want to ruin my current setup with experimental stuff, to be honest21:07
norayryay21:07
norayrwill start building maefat then.21:07
norayrhopefully will ping you in a couple of days for more repos.21:07
missMyN900Wizzup: by the way, have you had a chance to look into the volume up issue on the Pinephone?21:07
Wizzupnorayr: sorry it took this long21:07
norayrthank you!21:08
missMyN900also, based on my testing smplayer is currently the best multimedia solution on Maemo Leste21:08
norayri am very motivated to bring more software from the old ones.21:08
missMyN900the GUI is great on the Pinephone at least21:08
norayrand i am pushing two of my friends to do more, to port from qt4 to qt5 and so on.21:08
missMyN900much better than VLC21:08
missMyN900it can use both mplayer and mpv backends21:08
missMyN900smplayer is also a good music player if you use the "open directory" feature21:09
norayri have another photography related app i probably should package.21:09
missMyN900I tried mopidy with mobile and iris but it sucks compared to smplayer21:09
norayrby the way, on photography. was n900 camera access somehow specific to the device?21:10
norayror apps just read from /dev/vide0 if it is available.21:10
norayri mean are there chances that apps like blessn900 may work on other devices?21:10
Wizzupcamera access is there if there are drivers, and the access is through v4l21:10
missMyN900norayr: it had an amazing camera for sure :)21:10
WizzupmissMyN900: re: volume up, not yet21:11
norayryay, great. i realize most of our leste supported devices don't have camera support in kernel.21:11
WizzupmissMyN900: can you file a github issue for these things? (assuming uvos didn't say it's not a bug)21:11
Wizzupnorayr: right21:11
WizzupmissMyN900: yeah openmediaplayer would be nice too21:11
missMyN900Wizzup: I mean, it used to work in Dec 2021, it's a regression21:11
missMyN900until then I can wholeheartedly recommend smplayer21:12
WizzupmissMyN900: ok, maybe file an issue then please :)21:14
freemangordonWizzup: wait, what hangs?21:23
freemangordonyes, I will add sip too21:23
Wizzupfreemangordon: install telepathy-haze and libpurple021:30
Wizzuplog in hangs21:30
freemangordonyes, I see it21:30
freemangordon(rtcom-accounts-ui:25996): rtcom-accounts-WARNING **: 22:28:53.204: create_account_cb: account could not be created: Protocol 'jabber' does not have parameter 'resource'21:30
freemangordongoing to fix that21:30
Wizzuphaze params are different I think21:30
freemangordonthey are just a subset IIUC21:31
freemangordonbut lemme check21:31
Wizzupthey have to map to purple params somehow21:31
freemangordonsee https://github.com/TelepathyIM/telepathy-haze/blob/master/src/protocol.c21:32
freemangordoniiuc the mapping is there21:33
Wizzuphmm I see21:44
Wizzupha it has hardcoded mappings for protocols21:44
freemangordonyeah21:45
Wizzupso -this- is where I would add the slack plugin21:45
norayri should first build maefat-sources, then maefat-binaries right?21:47
norayri don't see any button to build those.21:47
norayrmay it be i need to push after you added the repo to phoenix?21:47
Wizzupjust build sources only21:50
Wizzuphttps://phoenix.maemo.org/job/maefat-source/ you don't see a way to build it here?21:53
freemangordon(haze:25980): purple/nss-CRITICAL **: 22:52:57.669:   ERROR -8172: SEC_ERROR_UNTRUSTED_ISSUER21:53
Wizzupfreemangordon: heh21:53
norayrminute21:53
Wizzupfreemangordon: which server is this?21:53
freemangordonwell, that is to be expected21:53
freemangordonmine21:53
freemangordon:)21:53
Wizzupah21:53
norayrno. but let me push again, minute... i updated the changelog.21:53
freemangordonand haze does not support ignore-ssl-errors21:54
Wizzupright21:54
WizzupI think we will probably have to mod haze quite a bit in the future21:54
freemangordonBTW the fix is in the repo21:54
freemangordonso now you should be able to use xmpp, assuming your server has trusted certificate21:55
buZzhehe, mahjong crashes if you finish the game21:55
buZz:D21:55
norayrWizzup: i am sorry, do you see a build button at that link?21:55
norayri can suspect my browser, but just a couple of days ago it was working fine with phoenix.21:55
freemangordonWizzup: it is not that I added a support for haze, see https://github.com/maemo-leste/rtcom-accounts-plugins/blob/master/src/jabber-plugin.c#L8321:56
Wizzupfreemangordon: yeah I understand I think21:56
Wizzupfreemangordon: ffrebut in this case I think haze could work21:56
Wizzupwow lag21:56
Wizzupfreemangordon: but in this case I think haze could work21:56
freemangordonit works, it gives SSL error, so... :)21:57
Wizzupwell, is that also on normal servers?21:57
WizzupI'll try it21:57
buZzah, mahjong bug is already reported \o https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/29221:57
freemangordonoh, no idea21:57
Wizzupyeah that works21:58
Wizzupat least in adding21:58
freemangordonregister is not supported by haze21:58
Wizzupworks with conversations21:59
Wizzupchatting at least21:59
Wizzupcool :p22:00
freemangordonsorry, missed the context22:00
freemangordonwhat works?22:00
WizzupI added an account with haze22:00
Wizzupand I can use it from conversations to chat22:00
Wizzupsend/receive22:00
freemangordoncool22:01
freemangordonwhich server?22:01
WizzupI can maybe show it tomorrow ;)22:01
Wizzupjabber.org22:01
Wizzupbut conversations.im I think will work too22:01
freemangordonah, you have an accoun there22:01
Wizzupyes22:01
WizzupI use it to test, talk with one account to the other :)22:02
norayrbtw i connect to this chat now via xmpp.22:02
Wizzup:)22:03
Wizzuphow?22:03
norayri host an xmpp->irc gateway. but there are public gateways. btw, you can use mine, mine is public too.22:03
norayryou just join a room like22:03
norayr#maemo-leste%irc.libera.chat@bibi.spyurk.am22:03
freemangordonwhy not use irc?22:03
norayrand you are here22:03
Wizzupnorayr: aha22:04
norayri love xmpp too much. aaand it hides my ip from libera team.22:04
buZzthose evils!22:05
norayrdo i need to install additional packages to be able to test xmpp ot maemo? please print a list of new packages to install in the announcement.22:05
norayrbuZz: i have nothing against them. just like to feel better that way.22:05
Wizzupnorayr: it's not ready yet22:05
Wizzupgive it a week22:05
norayrWizzup: no build button. maybe i have no rights for that build?22:05
norayrdo you see the build button?22:06
WizzupI think I did22:06
Wizzuplet me check22:06
norayrthank you.22:06
freemangordonWizzup: for some reason I cannot connect to conversations.im without checking ignore-ssl-errors22:06
freemangordonthat's weird22:06
freemangordonotherwise I get "You need a client that supports x:data and CAPTCHA to register" if I try to register :D22:06
Wizzupfreemangordon: is the time of the vm ok?22:08
Wizzupfreemangordon: I didn't try register22:08
WizzupI already have an account22:08
Wizzupnorayr: ok I see22:08
Wizzup""(maefat-source|maefat-binaries|maefat-repos)" "22:09
Wizzupquot :)22:09
Wizzupnorayr: try now22:09
Wizzupfreemangordon: not sure if you can see it but this is also relevant for you I guess: https://phoenix.maemo.org/role-strategy/22:10
freemangordonumm...22:10
freemangordonwhy?22:10
Wizzupto give others perms to build pkgs22:11
Wizzup*shrug* :)22:11
WizzupI spent 45 mins looking for it22:11
buZznorayr: this isnt my IP either ;)22:11
freemangordonah, I see :)22:12
missMyN900norayr: what is maefat? Is it FAT fs related?22:14
Wizzupnorayr: doe sit work now22:15
Wizzupweird, my pinephone doesn't see any APs on wifi22:24
Wizzupbut wpa supplicant does run22:24
xmnyeah I can't use my hotspot from my n900 with my PP if I'm using manjaro. I think it does work on mobian. So os support likely matters even for seemly simple thing (I know it's not really simple-ish :D).22:27
freemangordonok, blah.im seems to work just fine (no ignore-ssl-errors is needed)22:30
freemangordonbot haze and gabble are happy with it22:32
freemangordon*both22:32
Wizzup:)22:35
Wizzupxmn: we use moian kernel though22:35
xmnyuppers22:35
xmnwhich is why it's strange22:35
xmnperhaps a new bug on the mobian side?22:36
Wizzupit worked at home a few days ago22:39
Wizzupnot sure22:39
Wizzupmaybe it's not just calibrated properly22:39
buZzor different countrycode?22:40
buZzfor wifi freqs?22:40
missMyN900I have had no issues with WiFi on my PP22:45
Wizzupyeah, maybe something like this22:45
Wizzupok, time to head home, tomorrow is association day :)22:46
missMyN900I am thinking we should modify qtwebbrowser to make it a true ML browser22:54
missMyN900the nice thing is, it uses QtWebEngine from the repositories so we don't have to worry about security etc22:54
missMyN900we can modify the browser as much as we like22:55
missMyN900it won't incur any additional maintenance costs22:55
Wizzuppossible, or perhaps firefox..22:59
* Wizzup afk22:59
missMyN900well, if it can be done purely with extensions, then, yes23:01
missMyN900I don't think it would be a good decision to modify the Firefox code base23:02
missMyN900but yeah, if somebody wants to work on extensions, that's fine with me, of course23:03
missMyN900but I have some Qt/QML experience and none with browser extensions23:03
missMyN900so I am more interested in trying to mod qtwebbrowser a bit23:03
missMyN900nice thing about QML and JS in Qt is that you don't even have to rebuild anything ;)23:04
xmnI feel like love or hate em, firefox still has some great thing about it, including being an alternative to chrome/webkit.23:04
xmnBut I'm no dev in that sense so happy with what ever is stable and works.23:05
missMyN900xmn: I definitely am worried about the lack of competition23:05
xmn^23:05
missMyN900but I don't think that ML can realistically do something about that with limited resources23:05
missMyN900ML needs to go with whatever provides a decent experience with little effort23:06
missMyN900and QtWebEngine provides taht23:06
missMyN900on my desktop I use lots of different browsers for different purposes23:06
xmnb2gOS has found a new maintainer, so maybe that will help build a new mobile vers of firefox ... or not. :)23:06
missMyN900IMHO, the smartest thing for ML would be to:23:07
xmnmaintainer = forked23:07
missMyN9001. mod Firefox with extensions23:07
missMyN9002. mod qtwebbrowser23:07
missMyN9003. patch (and preferably upstream) netsurf-gtk for touchscreen support if necessary23:08
missMyN900then there will be 3 good options for ML users23:08
missMyN900with limited effort/resources required by devs23:08
xmnI think for mobile linux in general, we need a browser that is super fast, protected privacy and doesn't suck up all the energy from your device.23:08
missMyN900those browsers can provide that :)23:08
xmnWhatever code base that is probably really doesn't matter to end users23:08
missMyN900yes, but it does matter for the devs ;)23:09
xmnof course23:09
missMyN900maintaining a browser should not suck up all the dev resources23:09
xmnI'm not against your suggestions, btw.23:09
xmnBut as a community. we need to get behind maybe 2 codebase and work on that.23:10
missMyN900I mean, I am not sure we can really speak of a mobile linux community23:10
missMyN900way to fragmented23:10
missMyN900*too23:10
missMyN900sure, maybe ML could borrow the Glacier browser or Angelfish23:11
missMyN900but Angelfish sucks currently23:11
missMyN900I think the SFOS browser relies on an ancient version of Gecko23:12
missMyN900that is exactly what ML should avoid23:12
xmnsomehow angelfish has legs, I use mainly FF on my PP even with the drain23:12
missMyN900I am personally not very enthusiastic about Phosh, so I would not be about their browser either23:12
xmnsfos is gecko, not sure why they don't update. Likely cause mozila doesn't23:13
missMyN900I am guessing that sxmo probably uses surf223:13
missMyN900because it takes a lot of resources probably ;)23:13
xmnyup23:13
missMyN900that is exactly why qtwebbrowser with QtWebEngine (already in the Devuan repos) is a good option23:13
xmnI'm cool with phosh and it feel closest to maemo to me in SOME ways.23:13
xmnonce they get more gestures it should help it feel better23:14
missMyN900ML can piggybaca off of Devuan (and Devuan piggybacks off of giant Debian)23:14
xmn:)23:14
xmnI'm gonna piggy back to some work. fun chatting with you. I'm around23:15
missMyN900it sure was :)23:15
Wizzupyeah we don't want browser to suck up dev resources, which is why we don't mostly work on it atm23:19
missMyN900Wizzup: I am thinking about making some basic mods to qtwebbrowser23:21
missMyN900right now I need to manually go to a search engine page, for example23:21
Wizzupyeah, some renders also look a bit weird23:21
Wizzupgo for it23:21
missMyN900well, but that should be a QtWebEngine problem23:21
WizzupI think it's nice since it's quite snappy23:21
WizzupI don't mean web page renders23:22
WizzupI mean the ui itself renders with some awkward borders for me23:22
missMyN900oh23:22
missMyN900not sure I can help with that23:22
missMyN900my Qt/QML experience is pretty basic23:22
Wizzupwe'll see, start modding :)23:22
Wizzupsame23:22
Wizzupwell, if you start to like it, OMP was building23:22
Wizzupbut it needed qml work..23:22
Wizzup(OMP = openmediaplayer)23:22
missMyN900oh great23:22
Wizzupas in, it wasn't usable without that23:23
missMyN900where can I find the qtwb QML files in ML?23:23
missMyN900I wrote a basic SFOS app years ago23:23
missMyN900and then ported it to Qt5 desktop23:24
missMyN900have also done some basic HTML5 app dev23:24
missMyN900(without any frameworks)23:24
WizzupI'd look at the extras orga and find the browser repo there23:24
Wizzupor https://maedevu.maemo.org/pkgweb/search?q=qtwebbrowser23:24
Wizzupah that does not link to github..23:25
Wizzupno, it does23:25
norayrWizzup: i am so sorry, but i can see build button for lagrange, but not for maefat.23:50
Wizzuphmmmm23:52
Wizzupnorayr: wait23:53
norayryep, i am here.23:53
Wizzupnorayr: now?23:53
norayrminute23:53
norayrYES23:53
norayrtriggered a build23:53
norayri have a problem, but that's ok, i'll deal with it.23:54
norayrnow i can build and see console output.23:54
norayryeah, that's a tag problem.23:54

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!