| uvos | well i solder some wires to my adapter pcb on one end and to some nikel strips on the other and then spot welded those to the battery tabs of a nexus 4 battery | 00:13 |
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| uvos | but others have had sucess with soldering the eb41 pcb to the tabs of a nexus 4 battery | 00:13 |
| uvos | soldering to the tabs is not ideal but its ok if you keep the heat that sinks into the battery down | 00:14 |
| uvos | also keep the nickel strips that are spotwelded to the battery, the main tabs are sometimes stainless steel and are going to be hard to solder to without special flux | 00:15 |
| buZz | norayr: it helps to plonk heatsinks on/below batteries you're soldering to , to 'wick' away the heat somewhat | 10:34 |
| buZz | uvos__: i think the maintabs of those LG cells are lithium :O | 10:34 |
| buZz | one of my tabs had the nickel come off during rebuild, and its mad hard to solder to | 10:34 |
| buZz | i think i need silversolder for it | 10:35 |
| uvos__ | nah lithium is to reactive | 10:43 |
| uvos__ | soldering to lithium in a air-water atmosphere would be more than hard ÖP | 10:44 |
| buZz | ^_^ | 10:48 |
| Wizzup | norayr: btw the amazon link you sent to me doesn't seem to sell anymore | 10:49 |
| Wizzup | norayr: or maybe they just don't sell to me or something | 10:49 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: btw I am planning to move to leste as my daily driver at the end of the year, any chance you could help me out a bit in the next two weeks to get a telepathy backend in sphone? | 12:01 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: sure, in advisary capcatiy, i dont have that mutch time at the moment | 12:03 |
| uvos__ | but do ask away about how things work in sphone | 12:04 |
| uvos__ | i pretty mutch use the d4 as my primary phone allreay, the android phone only tags along as a whatsapp device at this point | 12:05 |
| Wizzup | neat :) | 12:05 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: with hildon? | 12:05 |
| uvos__ | yes | 12:05 |
| Wizzup | cool | 12:06 |
| sicelo | Wizzup: we're already running dnsmasq for some reason in Leste. i think it would be a good idea to also use it to provide dhcp on usbnet. | 13:16 |
| Wizzup | yeah, probably sensible | 13:18 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: well one thing, we would have multiple telepathy accounts that can call | 13:56 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: telepathy-ring, telepathy-rakia, telepathy-gabble | 13:56 |
| Wizzup | and we can have multiple accounts for the latter, maybe even for the first one too | 13:56 |
| Wizzup | how would that fit in sphone? | 13:57 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: perfectly fine | 14:01 |
| uvos__ | every module can register any number of backends (backend == proctoll in sphone more or less) | 14:01 |
| uvos__ | it just tells sphones what mimes it supports and what capabilites the backend has (call text etc) | 14:02 |
| uvos__ | then when sphone is opend with a mime ie tel://number it will select the backend that claims to support this mime to place the call | 14:03 |
| uvos__ | sphones dialer will also show all the procols with names in the selection dropdown when placing a call | 14:03 |
| uvos__ | see https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/blob/eacc386bf976e999a0c2a0d0a536cebe5b7f788d/src/modules/commtest.c#L46 | 14:05 |
| uvos__ | https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/blob/eacc386bf976e999a0c2a0d0a536cebe5b7f788d/src/modules/commtest.c#L201 | 14:05 |
| uvos__ | https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/blob/eacc386bf976e999a0c2a0d0a536cebe5b7f788d/src/modules/commtest.c#L195 | 14:05 |
| uvos__ | the id you get you are then to save and when a call comes down on call_dial_pipe you are to check if you are supposed to handle this call by matching to your ids see https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/blob/eacc386bf976e999a0c2a0d0a536cebe5b7f788d/src/modules/commtest.c#L107 | 14:07 |
| uvos__ | if so you shal handle the call | 14:07 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: can you register new ones at runtime? | 14:07 |
| uvos__ | yes | 14:07 |
| Wizzup | and remove as well I assume | 14:08 |
| uvos__ | yes | 14:08 |
| uvos__ | 2 problems in current sphone we still ned to solve is however: | 14:08 |
| Wizzup | so if there are multiple telepathy-rakia accounts (sip://), how does it know which one to pick | 14:08 |
| Wizzup | there's also a question of which accounts are online, but the gtk rtcom stuff+abook solves this, but I guess that's too hildon dependent? | 14:09 |
| uvos__ | you get the full url in the module | 14:09 |
| uvos__ | so externaly ofc its username@ | 14:09 |
| uvos__ | otherwise theres no way ofc | 14:09 |
| uvos__ | sphone only gets the mime as given by firefox gnome-conteacts etc | 14:10 |
| uvos__ | also | 14:10 |
| uvos__ | 1. the dialer ui currently allows to you only enter numbers, this is only a ui problem | 14:10 |
| uvos__ | 2. the ui dosent know that it should only offer to send sms via backends that claim to support it (ie it will try to send messages with any backend) | 14:10 |
| uvos__ | i gues you could add support pop up a dialog when a mime is to be handled by multiple "backends" (ie because of multiple accounds) and allow the user to select that way | 14:16 |
| uvos__ | otherwise in a nomal sip:// mime as provided by the external applications the information is just not there to know | 14:16 |
| Wizzup | right, tel:// can also be handled by sip | 14:21 |
| uvos__ | yes | 14:58 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: re battery leads heat sink - I think one should try extremely hard to be able to overheat the battery from soldering, those flat wires that come from the battery are about 1cm long and very thin | 16:02 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: overheating the battery is not the problem | 16:03 |
| freemangordon | but? electronics? | 16:03 |
| uvos__ | the probem is that the polimer that the leads are sandwiched in survive finite temperature capacity, and the thermal expansion of the lead can delaminate the interface. | 16:04 |
| uvos__ | the actuall battery will be fine (unlike when soldering to li-ion cells like 18650 etc) | 16:04 |
| uvos__ | but just do be an idiot and hold the iorn there for several minutes | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | right, but in order this to happen, you should have high enough temperature (at least 80 deg I would guess) at the end of 1cm long and thin stainless steel wire | 16:05 |
| uvos__ | and youl be fine | 16:05 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: right | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | to me this can't really happen under normal soldering conditions | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | if you take a lighter.. well :) | 16:06 |
| uvos__ | well if people have trouble geting the solder to wet | 16:06 |
| uvos__ | then they might be messing around with the iorn for a while | 16:06 |
| uvos__ | then i could see it | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | still, this happens 1 cm away from the weak spot | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | but I agree one should be careful | 16:07 |
| freemangordon | just trying to say it is not *thet* fragile | 16:07 |
| freemangordon | *that* | 16:07 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: tomorrow will try to finish HAM ui | 16:08 |
| freemangordon | fortunately I have an idea what needs to be done | 16:09 |
| freemangordon | just didn;t have time today | 16:09 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: ok, we cna also just not have the background | 16:23 |
| freemangordon | no, it is just that it is picky, but I'll fix it | 16:31 |
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