| Wizzup | norayr: lmk when mstardict is ready in the repos | 00:01 |
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| Wizzup | norayr: to be clear I didn't push a fix, just gave the the fix :P | 00:01 |
| norayr | ah! | 00:16 |
| norayr | ok will do! | 00:16 |
| norayr | mstardict built. (: | 00:34 |
| Wizzup | great, ty | 00:38 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: btw I think you still have to confirm me with the naming of repos you want for chimaera | 00:49 |
| Wizzup | aaaa | 00:56 |
| Wizzup | oops, sry | 00:56 |
| norayr | shermans-aquarium-maemo, live-wallpaper are built, 9x9-sudoku is being built, should be fine. | 00:59 |
| norayr | were built | 00:59 |
| norayr | i think i did everything, will continue adding new, reviving old packages, or writing new apps. | 01:00 |
| Wizzup | checked them off already ^_^ | 01:00 |
| norayr | btw our lagrange is the best build, sincerely. lagrange is usually built for desktops, but it has mobile mode, so i build it in mobile mode. | 01:01 |
| Wizzup | check | 01:01 |
| Wizzup | I am dist-upgrading now | 01:01 |
| Wizzup | will let you know if it just works | 01:01 |
| norayr | i'll try tomorrow. | 01:01 |
| norayr | yep. | 01:02 |
| Wizzup | python-is-python2 is the main question | 01:02 |
| Wizzup | I added it to hildon-meta already | 01:02 |
| norayr | next in my list is amazfish, it should work with chimaera, maybe dino from libhandy branch and libhandy will work? who knows. | 01:02 |
| Wizzup | first time I tried that python2 symlink was the main problem | 01:03 |
| Wizzup | I don't think we need dino, we just need conversations ready with xmpp :) | 01:03 |
| Wizzup | I use dino on my laptop and it makes me continually unhappy | 01:04 |
| norayr | yeah, that would be cool. dino makes heavy i/o and is bad on battery. | 01:04 |
| norayr | yes, i use pidgin usually. | 01:04 |
| norayr | dino under pmos can do e2e encrypted audio/video, plus omemo encrypted group chats. | 01:05 |
| norayr | dino can call conversations of android. | 01:05 |
| Wizzup | yes dino 0.3.0 can do all this but the audio/video almost never works | 01:05 |
| Wizzup | I've had to compile the latest git head just to get audio some of the time | 01:05 |
| norayr | heh. | 01:05 |
| Wizzup | both with conversations.im server and my own | 01:05 |
| norayr | i prefer our conversations, of course. in fremantle and even in diablo those were very useful. | 01:05 |
| Wizzup | I end up using jitso or google met usually | 01:05 |
| buZz | can pidgin do voice or video? | 01:05 |
| norayr | pidgin can but not encrypted. | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | telepathy-gabble can | 01:06 |
| norayr | only audio. | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | it works on n900 *still* | 01:06 |
| norayr | pidgin doesn't know omemo. | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | (fremantle) | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | norayr: we have funding to add omemo to telepathy using libomemo-c | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | but that'll be in the news post before xmas | 01:06 |
| norayr | Wizzup: to me it doesn't work on n900 because my own server doesn't want to work with fremantle's libssl. | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | norayr: you just need the right cipers | 01:06 |
| norayr | great great! | 01:06 |
| norayr | you mean /etc/ssl/certs or smth content? | 01:07 |
| Wizzup | ./prosody.cfg.lua:tls_profile = "legacy" | 01:07 |
| norayr | ah! | 01:07 |
| Wizzup | and of course on n900 you -must- disable cert validation | 01:07 |
| Wizzup | well fremantle n900 | 01:07 |
| norayr | aha. i'll try. | 01:07 |
| norayr | i am in this chat via my xmpp to irc gateway. | 01:08 |
| buZz | hehe nice | 01:10 |
| Wizzup | norayr: which one is that? | 01:10 |
| Wizzup | norayr: I've been wondering if we can make it easier for people to join the channel over xmpp | 01:11 |
| Wizzup | btw, just dist-upgrade with current chimaera seems to pull in python-is-python2 on time | 01:12 |
| Wizzup | upgrading my main d4 atm | 01:12 |
| Wizzup | super fun :) | 01:13 |
| norayr | bibi.spyurk.am | 01:13 |
| norayr | i use room: #maemo-leste%irc.libera.chat | 01:13 |
| norayr | and conf server: bibi.spyurk.am | 01:13 |
| norayr | there are other public gateways too. | 01:13 |
| norayr | the only problem is that once you joined you also get nickserv etc notifications. | 01:13 |
| norayr | sometimes i think of writing xmpp-irc or vice versa bot, i already have my irc bot written from scratch in oberon, and i have contributed to one xmpp library, so maybe i will manage to one day. | 01:15 |
| Wizzup | I'd like to avoid the bots that just parrot | 01:16 |
| Wizzup | so spyurk is not your own? any idea what it uses? | 01:16 |
| norayr | then the gateway remains. | 01:16 |
| norayr | the software i use is called biboumi. | 01:16 |
| norayr | it is connected to prosody. | 01:16 |
| norayr | very easy in setup. | 01:16 |
| norayr | and my gw is public. | 01:16 |
| norayr | you can list some public gws on the wiki maybe. | 01:17 |
| Wizzup | ok, maybe I should try this | 01:18 |
| norayr | bibi.spyurk.am is my own. as well as spyurk.am jabber server. | 01:19 |
| Wizzup | I mean, I'd try it on my own prosody setup | 01:19 |
| norayr | yes, i just noticed i did not answer, that's why i said. | 01:20 |
| Wizzup | check | 01:21 |
| norayr | ok good night folks. | 01:26 |
| Wizzup | gn | 01:30 |
| sicelo | https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/power/supply/cpcap-battery.c#L733-L746 | 09:37 |
| sicelo | on a good battery, is it fine to wait for 3.1V to shutdown D4? | 09:37 |
| freemangordon | not now | 09:45 |
| freemangordon | when charger detection is there, maybe yes | 09:45 |
| sicelo | what's a better absolute minimum voltage in general then? | 10:15 |
| uvos__ | 3.3 ish for mapphones | 12:01 |
| uvos__ | for the general lipo case 3.1 is good | 12:02 |
| uvos__ | you must prevent it going below 3 so 3.1 is sane | 12:02 |
| uvos__ | as a hard shutdown _NOW_ signal anyhow | 12:03 |
| uvos__ | you might want to start shutdown earlier in the ussual case depends on how long that takes | 12:03 |
| * Wizzup is on chimaera on his d4 | 12:08 | |
| Wizzup | dist upgrade worked out it looks like | 12:08 |
| Wizzup | but not without hickkups | 12:08 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: please confirm whether you want testing, devel and experimental | 12:15 |
| Wizzup | for chimaera | 12:15 |
| * norayr doing dist-upgrade | 13:51 | |
| * buZz trying to get battery-eye working on d4 | 14:01 | |
| buZz | seems to build, and i modified the datasource stuff to grab from /sys/class/power_supply/battery instead of using 'lshal' | 14:01 |
| buZz | but seems the hal stuff is a bit more hardcoded i think | 14:01 |
| buZz | also the collection seems to depend on dbus signals? :) i just made it once-per-minute for now | 14:02 |
| Wizzup | buZz: yes, upower replaces hal, and it's all select-driven, so not polling, to prevent unnecessary wakeups of the device | 14:28 |
| Wizzup | so, just like the python script I linked you, reading upower would be the best idea. | 14:28 |
| buZz | but that leads to spotty graphs? | 14:29 |
| buZz | the data from upower seems quite a mess :P in that it goes so long without reporting a voltage etc | 14:30 |
| buZz | either way, i'll try to make the displaying no longer depend on hal stuff, then we could add any datasource really | 14:30 |
| Wizzup | spotty graphs? | 14:30 |
| buZz | like the data in gnome battery monitor showed, big periods of no-data | 14:31 |
| buZz | even while phone is on and online | 14:32 |
| Wizzup | I don't know what you define as big periods, but I haven't seen this problem | 14:32 |
| buZz | ahwell, no problem | 14:32 |
| buZz | at least, the battery-eye package from fremantle extras repos , built practically directly | 14:33 |
| buZz | kinda makes me wonder how many of them would just build straight away :P | 14:33 |
| Wizzup | many, it'd be great to have people port omre | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | more* | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | the trick is to identify which ones | 14:34 |
| buZz | maybe its possible to 'blanket test' them all with some bash script | 14:34 |
| buZz | and just record how many errors appear | 14:34 |
| buZz | :P | 14:34 |
| buZz | or top100 most popular ones or something | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | it's a bit tricky, since some of them have git or svn repos, others just source uploads as tar | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | and usually they need at least minor changes to debian/control | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | btw there is this | 14:35 |
| Wizzup | https://leste.maemo.org/Wishlist | 14:35 |
| buZz | nice | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | I think github issues would be better, simply because now people won't know when it's done | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | or when there's any change at all | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | but yeah it's astart | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | and I probably started the page, so I'm probably to blame | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | you can look here too http://maemo.org/downloads/score/Maemo5/25/ | 14:46 |
| Wizzup | http://maemo.org/downloads/updated/Maemo5/25/ | 14:46 |
| Wizzup | btw, vcmi seems to be in bullseye | 14:51 |
| buZz | > The purpose of VCMI project is to rewrite entire HOMM 3: WoG engine from scratch | 15:29 |
| buZz | hah cool | 15:29 |
| Wizzup | they hit 1.0 recently too | 15:29 |
| norayr | https://bpa.st/7C4VC - my upgrade problem | 16:52 |
| Wizzup | norayr: yes | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | apt-get install -f | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | let it run | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | and then resume dist-upgrade | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | that should work I think | 16:55 |
| norayr | trying | 16:55 |
| norayr | https://bpa.st/HJD6K | 17:00 |
| norayr | i sometimes able to fix these things, i am thinking as well | 17:01 |
| norayr | i am thinking of uninstalling something. | 17:01 |
| Wizzup | dpkg --configure gconf2 | 17:03 |
| Wizzup | ? | 17:03 |
| Wizzup | hmmm np audio on chimaera yet | 17:22 |
| Wizzup | no | 17:22 |
| norayr | i did dpkg --configure gconf2, it failed, then i tried to dpkg --configure libgconf-2-4, it also failed, but now apt-get -f install goes. | 18:47 |
| Wizzup | norayr: yeah | 18:47 |
| norayr | but i see | 18:47 |
| norayr | lots of | 18:47 |
| norayr | insserv: Script zzzremove-first-boot-flag has overlapping Default-Start and Default-Stop runlevels (S 1 2 3 4 5) and (0 1 2 3 4 5 6). This should be fixed. | 18:47 |
| norayr | is that ok? | 18:47 |
| Wizzup | I just ignore it | 18:47 |
| norayr | ok it is generating locales, waiting. | 18:47 |
| Wizzup | this will take 1-2 hours | 18:48 |
| Wizzup | the whole process | 18:48 |
| buZz | we could disable irrelevant locales :P | 18:55 |
| norayr | ohhhh, though it was connected to the charger, the battery died and droid shat down automatically. | 19:01 |
| norayr | ok managed to put it to charge mode. | 19:02 |
| norayr | will continue in several hours, when it is charged. | 19:02 |
| Wizzup | norayr: you had one job :D | 19:28 |
| norayr | it booted i can connect to it. | 20:08 |
| Wizzup | norayr: great | 20:16 |
| norayr | i think it is done | 22:20 |
| norayr | the upgrade. | 22:20 |
| Wizzup | norayr: great | 22:29 |
| Wizzup | I have a bunh of apps from fremantle we could port | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | where should I put the list? | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | I can file issues under maemo-leste/bugtracker, or peraps maemo-leste-extras/bugtracker? | 22:54 |
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