| uvos | Wizzup: unload will still be called so you can have it if you want | 10:16 |
|---|---|---|
| uvos | but exit is now used to make it easier to pass state from init | 10:16 |
| uvos | just in case we have a reason to use a module multiple times in the future | 10:16 |
| Wizzup | ok | 10:20 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I think I have qt-booster support for maemo-launcher working | 11:01 |
| Wizzup | at least it works with countdowntimer, it was really easy | 11:01 |
| Wizzup | I don't know if it's fully 'boosted' or anything, but it works | 11:01 |
| Wizzup | hm, maybe there is more to do | 11:02 |
| Wizzup | right, just had to add ',qt' to the launcher | 11:04 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: https://github.com/maemo-leste/maemo-launcher/tree/qt5-booster | 11:08 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: no idea if that works properly at all or not, I guess not | 11:11 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: umm, the point is to accelerate (preload) qt, not hildon :) | 11:29 |
| freemangordon | unless I am missing something | 11:30 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: what? | 11:30 |
| freemangordon | oh, wait | 11:31 |
| freemangordon | right, it does nothing :) | 11:32 |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/maemo-leste/maemo-launcher/blob/qt5-booster/launcher/booster_qt.c | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: yeah, but this is what the qt4 one was ike too | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | it also produces a static .so | 11:32 |
| freemangordon | right, but Nokia never really implementd that | 11:33 |
| Wizzup | hmm, ok | 11:33 |
| freemangordon | so at least you shoud do 'QtWidget *tmp = new QtWidget(); delete tmp;' or somesuch | 11:33 |
| freemangordon | I doubt that will work without QApplication, but who knows | 11:34 |
| freemangordon | the whole point is to have qt .so files already pre-loaded and *symbols resolved* | 11:34 |
| Wizzup | right | 11:35 |
| freemangordon | byt the time a qt .launcher application is started | 11:35 |
| freemangordon | however, I don;t know how will this work with QApplication | 11:35 |
| freemangordon | maybe it will, whi knows | 11:35 |
| freemangordon | *who | 11:35 |
| Wizzup | we'll do it another time | 11:36 |
| dsc_ | qt has ->deleteLater() fyi :pPPpP | 11:37 |
| dsc_ | also pass the parent in the constructor of whatever you are new'ing | 11:37 |
| freemangordon | I know, but we don't need that | 11:38 |
| * dsc_ runs | 11:38 | |
| freemangordon | dsc_: all we want to achieve is qt libs dload()-ed and symbols resolved | 11:38 |
| dsc_ | sorry, was just being annoying, didnt follow the convo | 11:38 |
| dsc_ | no idea @ runtime loading | 11:39 |
| freemangordon | dsc_: in case you are curious https://github.com/maemo-leste/maemo-launcher/tree/qt5-booster#readme | 11:40 |
| dsc_ | ill take a looksie | 11:41 |
| dsc_ | ehh | 11:45 |
| dsc_ | i have too many questions :D probably better to ignore this for now | 11:46 |
| Wizzup | SuperMarioSF_: they arrived already :) | 12:29 |
| Wizzup | https://wizzup.org/slack-conversations.png | 13:03 |
| dreamer | Wizzup: hah. so now we only need discord? ;) | 13:09 |
| Wizzup | well they needs to be improved a lot | 13:10 |
| Wizzup | but it's working at least | 13:10 |
| Wizzup | dreamer: this will probably work https://github.com/EionRobb/purple-discord | 13:10 |
| Wizzup | I'll package it a bit later when we have working telepathy calls for normal calls and sip | 13:10 |
| Wizzup | how did I write 'they needs to be' lol | 13:11 |
| dreamer | hehe | 13:21 |
| dreamer | because you didn't want to write "it" | 13:22 |
| dreamer | you're so woke :# | 13:22 |
| dreamer | <j/k> | 13:22 |
| * dreamer hasn't had any time for leste testing -_- | 13:22 | |
| Wizzup | lol | 13:32 |
| Wizzup | maybe around fosdem :) | 13:32 |
| bencoh | Wizzup: is that using conversation/telepathy, haze, and purple-slack? | 15:01 |
| Wizzup | correct | 15:01 |
| bencoh | neat | 15:01 |
| Wizzup | yup | 15:01 |
| Wizzup | had to hack around the libpurple plugin a bit | 15:01 |
| Wizzup | but it works now | 15:01 |
| bencoh | oh, what was needed there? | 15:01 |
| Wizzup | slack changed their apis | 15:02 |
| Wizzup | the code to resolve an email to a user id doesn't work anymore, so if you figure out your user id and get a branch with a hackfix in place, it can work | 15:02 |
| bencoh | ah, so the changes could even be upstreamed | 15:02 |
| Wizzup | the branch comes fromupstream but never merged since it's a hack | 15:02 |
| bencoh | I see | 15:02 |
| bencoh | (so upstream purple-slack is broken?) | 15:02 |
| Wizzup | I'm going to patch my bitlbee too, I've used this a lot in the past | 15:02 |
| Wizzup | yes | 15:02 |
| Wizzup | well, youtube.com locked me out of the maemo leste account | 15:03 |
| Wizzup | it requires me to use an android or ios device to verify my account | 15:03 |
| Wizzup | I guess we'll just self host some mp4 | 15:03 |
| bencoh | (oh, I just realized that your screenshot mentioned haze/purple :D) | 15:03 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: :p | 15:04 |
| bencoh | btw, how do handle closing conversation windows on leste? regarding 1. conv history 2. not leaving channels/groups/whatever | 15:05 |
| Wizzup | this is not handled yet at all | 15:05 |
| Wizzup | there's much to improve, including history fetching | 15:05 |
| bencoh | I remember it being very clumsy on fremantle (wth irc for instance) | 15:05 |
| bencoh | ah, I see | 15:05 |
| Wizzup | yes, it is clumsy on fremantle, and this is partially due to how tp works I believe | 15:06 |
| Wizzup | I do have code for multi person and group channels btw, it's just not logging or used in the UI at all | 15:06 |
| * bencoh nods | 15:06 | |
| Wizzup | I am thinking we might need to store the channels we want to (re)join somewhere outside of tp | 15:06 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: do we have this https://github.com/maemo-leste/ke-recv/pull/4 already in our kernel? | 15:48 |
| freemangordon | d4 extcon? no, but that's not needed by that PR | 16:52 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: ok | 16:59 |
| norayr | who edited droid4 hardware keyboard layout recently? | 18:48 |
| norayr | cannot find in git the proper repo. | 18:48 |
| norayr | there are changes, i wonder if those are intentional, because it is less usable now. | 18:48 |
| norayr | so 'ok' key doesn't work for me. even after i did this https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/510#issuecomment-815618591 udevadm stuff. | 19:00 |
| norayr | no way to type colon or semicolon from hardware keyboard. | 19:00 |
| norayr | i just discovered we have graphical IM account configuration! | 19:16 |
| norayr | that is cool! but (again me with my unicode needs!) why doesn't it accept adding a utf-8 accounts? i have a fully unicode jabber id! (: | 19:17 |
| norayr | will do that from console. (: | 19:17 |
| bencoh | norayr: why would you do that? :> | 19:22 |
| norayr | for fun! i have a գրող at/from ծոց.հայ which means something funny. (: | 19:23 |
| norayr | i can explain what does that mean of course, but it'll take time and space and letters. | 19:23 |
| freemangordon | norayr: what do you mean "does not support utf-8'? | 19:32 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: ping | 20:02 |
| norayr | i mean, | 20:03 |
| norayr | i enter 'voip and im accounts' | 20:03 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: what was the tablet you brought to openfest again? | 20:03 |
| norayr | create an account like գրոց@ծոց.աաա | 20:03 |
| norayr | or i created already that account from console, and i can see it in accounts | 20:04 |
| norayr | but it is not 'signed in' | 20:04 |
| norayr | i click on it | 20:04 |
| norayr | i see my address in utf-8, i click on 'sign in' button | 20:04 |
| norayr | i get notification 'user name unable to contain ծ' | 20:04 |
| norayr | actually ծ is contained in the domain name, but yes, that's my notification. | 20:04 |
| norayr | and i cannot sign it in. | 20:05 |
| norayr | searhing how to sign in from console but don't understad. :/ tried mc-tool reconnect but doesn't help. | 20:05 |
| norayr | enable doesn't help too. | 20:05 |
| Wizzup | this might be some weird telepathy-gabble limitation | 20:10 |
| Wizzup | does this work on fremantle? | 20:10 |
| Wizzup | that is not to say that we can't fix it, of course :) | 20:10 |
| norayr | Wizzup: you think it is not in ui? | 20:10 |
| norayr | because with mc-tool i added the account from console without problems. | 20:11 |
| norayr | and i know people who use fully unicode jabber accounts. i am not alone. i actually saw it only then tried myself. | 20:11 |
| norayr | another problem is that, well, i had my address book synced. and it has many jabber entries | 20:12 |
| norayr | and if i sign in with regular non utf-8, ascii username@domain | 20:14 |
| norayr | and click on the jabber contact - well it doesn't know that this jabber contact is for this (and only even) jabber im account. and nothing happens, i cannot write. | 20:15 |
| norayr | then i create a new address book entry. i add the same jabber account. | 20:15 |
| norayr | i tap it, it asks - what IM account you want to write with? i choose my only non-unicode account. | 20:16 |
| norayr | it works, and works, and works forever. | 20:16 |
| norayr | and i cannot receive messages with that non-unicode account as well. :/ | 20:16 |
| norayr | so this is about non-unicode. | 20:16 |
| * norayr is not ranting, but trying to report problems to improve user experience. | 20:18 | |
| Wizzup | norayr: if you set auto-connect in mc-tool and then run reconnect it might work | 20:19 |
| norayr | Wizzup: do you know why my 'ok' key ond droid4 doesn't work after update to chimaera? i tried the udevadm updatehwdb/trigger stuff. | 20:19 |
| norayr | i did, doesn't help. can try to reboot. | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | norayr: maybe something is broken, are you fully up to date? | 20:20 |
| norayr | i think. well let me try again. | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | what was it again, ok + sym? | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | ok + shift I think | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | that brings up special vkb for me | 20:21 |
| norayr | ok + the key upper the left arrow | 20:21 |
| norayr | it was typing colon before. | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | what does this do? | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | hm, really? | 20:21 |
| norayr | it works as arrow up for some reason now. | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | I mean mostly likely maybe the xkb data is not what you want | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | norayr: oh, you mean the key above the left arrow | 20:22 |
| norayr | yes, it is a yellow colon on a key, and it used to be typed when i pressed it with ok key. | 20:22 |
| Wizzup | what does it give you now? | 20:22 |
| norayr | yes | 20:22 |
| Wizzup | It's . : and > for me | 20:22 |
| norayr | it seems to work as arrow up and returns previous things in terminal. | 20:22 |
| norayr | no with ok | 20:22 |
| norayr | without ok let me see. | 20:22 |
| Wizzup | with ok it is : for me | 20:22 |
| Wizzup | norayr: this is maybe keymap dependent? | 20:23 |
| norayr | with caps lock it is <>, with shift and without it is , and . | 20:23 |
| Wizzup | wait let me re-read what you wrote | 20:23 |
| norayr | it was working before chimaera update. so i wonder if something changed | 20:23 |
| Wizzup | this is on the d4? | 20:23 |
| norayr | d4 yes | 20:23 |
| Wizzup | and what is drawn on the key for you | 20:23 |
| Wizzup | on the physical key | 20:23 |
| norayr | white dot and yellow colon | 20:24 |
| norayr | also there is a key with white comma and yellow semicolon. | 20:24 |
| norayr | i cannot get this semicolon and colon anymore. but if i pressed these keys with 'ok' they were typed. | 20:24 |
| norayr | before the upgrade. | 20:24 |
| Wizzup | what application are you testing in? | 20:24 |
| norayr | maemo terminal now. | 20:24 |
| norayr | let me try something else. | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:25 |
| * norayr trying leafpad | 20:25 | |
| Wizzup | it works for me in osso-xterm | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | so there's something different about your setup | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | do you switch input languages? | 20:25 |
| norayr | some behaviour. | 20:25 |
| norayr | hmmmm... not for hardware kbd. let me see in settings. | 20:25 |
| norayr | English, Nederlands. Is that ok? | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | I have that too | 20:26 |
| norayr | btw, upgrading via apt-get upgrade. it says it'll upgrade surf. lets hope. | 20:26 |
| norayr | ok i'll see if something will be fixed after upgrade. | 20:26 |
| norayr | it will bring leste-config-droid4, and hildon-meta-droid4, maybe the keymap is there. | 20:27 |
| norayr | meanwhile can someone grep in the sources of ui 'user name unable to contain' line? | 20:31 |
| norayr | i don't know where to grep. | 20:31 |
| norayr | maybe it's in ui, because i get it as a yellow maemo message. | 20:31 |
| Wizzup | can you file a bug in any case? | 20:31 |
| norayr | to which repo? | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | we have only one place to file bugs :D | 20:33 |
| sicelo | norayr: just out of curiosity, what's the version of xkb-data in chimaera? | 20:44 |
| norayr | sicelo: 2.29.1+m7 | 20:45 |
| * norayr rebooting droid4 | 20:46 | |
| sicelo | and beowulf has 2.26. upstream xkb could have changed something that broke our custom setup ... | 20:46 |
| sicelo | e.g. they did change something which broke entering numbers on N900 keyboard (but this affects version 2.37) | 20:48 |
| sicelo | on the other hand, i haven't yet understood what the issue is in your case (been busy with something else) | 20:49 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: so it works on my chimaera | 20:52 |
| Wizzup | not saying there is not a problem, but it seems on par with beowulf -for me- at least | 20:52 |
| norayr | apt-get upgrade fixed it | 20:52 |
| norayr | yay | 20:52 |
| Wizzup | great | 20:54 |
| Wizzup | always nice when upgrades -fix- things rather than breaking them | 20:54 |
| norayr | (: | 20:55 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: allwinner a33 q8 or something | 21:08 |
| freemangordon | norayr: for sure there is account field validation | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | maybe it is not proper | 21:09 |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/maemo-leste/rtcom-accounts-ui/blob/master/widgets/rtcom-username.c#L816 | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/maemo-leste/rtcom-accounts-ui/blob/master/widgets/rtcom-entry-validation.c#L303 | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | norayr: what is the *exact* error message? | 21:12 |
| freemangordon | ok, I can reproduce with cyrillic , I get "User name unable to contain 'г'" | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | please confirm you see the same error message | 21:16 |
| Wizzup | https://maemo-leste.github.io/maemo-leste-new-year-update-may-2022-january-2023.html | 21:37 |
| bencoh | oooh, neat | 21:42 |
| Wizzup | does the bt video work for people? | 21:47 |
| bencoh | video doesn't work here | 21:49 |
| norayr | freemangordon: yes! that's what i see! | 21:49 |
| * Wizzup fixes | 21:49 | |
| bencoh | Wizzup: great update, interesting and fun to read <3 | 21:49 |
| norayr | i can see the video | 21:50 |
| bencoh | norayr: the bt one? | 21:51 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: thanks, it was long overdue, but yeah :) | 21:51 |
| norayr | pinephone and maemo, looks cool. | 21:51 |
| Wizzup | the bt webm was missing | 21:51 |
| norayr | should update pp to chimaera. | 21:51 |
| Wizzup | I just pushed the file it might take a few mins | 21:51 |
| norayr | ah yes, the bt video i don't see. | 21:51 |
| bencoh | I wonder, is there any better option than leste on pinephone nowadays? with "everything" working properly out-of-the-box | 21:52 |
| bencoh | or is leste actually the most advanced ther? | 21:52 |
| norayr | on pinephone i think the most polished is phosh. but i don't like it. | 21:53 |
| xmn | well also sailfish | 21:53 |
| bencoh | ah, purism's shell | 21:53 |
| bencoh | oh, sailfish was ported to pinephone? | 21:53 |
| norayr | yes, sailfish is ported. | 21:53 |
| xmn | I just got 2 new n900 so happy. | 21:53 |
| sicelo | :p | 21:53 |
| norayr | jolla says half of the sailfish installations is on pinephone. | 21:53 |
| bencoh | wow | 21:53 |
| sicelo | xmn: why? | 21:53 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: I've heard a lot of people say that most of the other ones run very sluggish | 21:54 |
| xmn | Almost daily drivable according to some folks | 21:54 |
| Wizzup | at least kde/gnome stuff | 21:54 |
| norayr | i also tried gnome, to be precise 'gnome-mobile' - gnome with latest mobile fixes in pmos. it is much better than phosh, but of course much heavier. | 21:54 |
| Wizzup | but mobian did some decent things it seems wrt power management | 21:54 |
| norayr | phosh is daily drivable i believe. | 21:54 |
| bencoh | I guess sailfish on pinephone includes jolla's proprietary blobs as well? | 21:54 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 21:54 |
| norayr | gnome-mobile has this feature to rearrange icons, like in sailfish. | 21:54 |
| sicelo | xmn: i was asking why you got n900? | 21:54 |
| norayr | and it doesn't work well in landscape mode on pp. but in portrait mode it is ok, if you write with qwerty onscreen only. | 21:54 |
| xmn | n900 was my main driver until the keyboard broke. Now living with the Pinephone manjaro phosh and mobian | 21:54 |
| xmn | eventually maemo too | 21:55 |
| norayr | their onscreen keyboard is unable to show anything other than qwerty. | 21:55 |
| sicelo | doesn't it feel too slow for you now? | 21:55 |
| norayr | n900/maemo was my main. then sailfish was my main till this year. | 21:55 |
| norayr | now maemo. | 21:55 |
| bencoh | maemo? on pinephone? | 21:55 |
| xmn | sicelo It's what I know and have. I personally never like the motorola design. The n900 does pretty much everything except web and group text mms (well). other then that I was happy | 21:59 |
| xmn | Oh and the cell provider made it 2G only now :). But with out the web it's fine. | 21:59 |
| xmn | sicelo, it only feel slow sometime .. when I'm doing too much. | 22:00 |
| bencoh | oh, your provider removed 3G and kept 2G? that's surprising | 22:00 |
| bencoh | most kill 2G first | 22:00 |
| xmn | they want to push ppl off 3g so they can enhance 4-6g is my understanding or use it for something else. | 22:01 |
| sicelo | xmn: i understand. i want to work on the voice calls a little bit more again (n900), now that modem is working fine once more | 22:02 |
| xmn | awesome. Since I have 2 working n900 and the PP. I can now do testing of maemo-leste!! | 22:03 |
| bencoh | \o/ | 22:03 |
| sicelo | maybe you can help fix some of the issues ;-) | 22:03 |
| xmn | Yeah, I just need to get it on and figure out best ways to load it on to a device and all that. | 22:10 |
| xmn | But happy to help | 22:10 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: no way to kill 2G | 22:16 |
| freemangordon | everything unattended (and most of attended) runs on 2G | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | ATMs/ vending machines, POS terminals, you name it | 22:17 |
| bencoh | well, they're still killing it here and there | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | weird | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | I think 2G is here to stay | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | what about emergency services? | 22:18 |
| freemangordon | etc. etc. | 22:18 |
| freemangordon | maybe they kill it for *your* SIM ;) | 22:18 |
| bencoh | and here they were supposed to kill it too soon(tm), but put it on hold for some political reason | 22:18 |
| bencoh | haha, no, mine works well for now <3 | 22:18 |
| freemangordon | I bet 'political' being that every device that is not a mobile phone has 2G modem :) | 22:19 |
| bencoh | regarding emergency service, IoT, and everything in-between, they supposedly migrated or planned migration for most stuff (here at least) | 22:19 |
| uvos__ | well i 2g has been killed in some places | 22:19 |
| uvos__ | like japan | 22:19 |
| bencoh | nah, that part is supposedly out of the discussion | 22:19 |
| freemangordon | 'here' being? Germany? | 22:19 |
| bencoh | uvos__: yeah, but japan has always been different regarding cellular | 22:20 |
| uvos__ | in germany they had it slated for 2028 iirc | 22:20 |
| uvos__ | but its undefined for now | 22:20 |
| uvos__ | 3g is totaly gone in germany | 22:20 |
| freemangordon | yeah, 3G is another story | 22:20 |
| bencoh | I recently learned about LTE CAT-M btw, I haven't really measured power consumption, but it is supposedly better than 2G, with similar or better bitrates | 22:20 |
| uvos__ | yes new stuff is 4g | 22:21 |
| bencoh | 3G should've died a long time ago imho | 22:21 |
| uvos__ | infrastructure suff | 22:21 |
| uvos__ | that is | 22:21 |
| uvos__ | but infrastructure stuff has a long life | 22:21 |
| uvos__ | its sill keeping 2g alive | 22:21 |
| uvos__ | but they are also dwindeling | 22:21 |
| bencoh | I mean ... I'm happy to still have 3G on n900, but 3G is the _worst_ techno of the family | 22:21 |
| uvos__ | as stuff gets replaced | 22:21 |
| freemangordon | on N900 it is 3.5G :) | 22:22 |
| uvos__ | please | 22:22 |
| bencoh | yeah, well, HSPA+, but still | 22:22 |
| uvos__ | thats like calling hasdpa+ 4 g | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | that's why the smiley | 22:22 |
| bencoh | UMTS and everything based on it is awful powerwise (thx wcdma) | 22:22 |
| uvos__ | sure | 22:23 |
| uvos__ | but practical bitrates have not really changed here | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | yet symbian devices managed to carry through the week with one charge | 22:23 |
| uvos__ | since hsdpa | 22:23 |
| xmn | I would guess they say there are killing 2g, but are really keeping it for vertical markets. | 22:23 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: on 3G? | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | on 2G | 22:23 |
| bencoh | oh, 2G is bliss powerwise | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | UMTS is not 3g, no? | 22:24 |
| bencoh | UMTS is 3G | 22:24 |
| uvos__ | yes | 22:24 |
| bencoh | GSM is 2G | 22:24 |
| uvos__ | umts is 3g | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:24 |
| bencoh | I keep my n900 on 2G most of the time, the moment I switch to 3G battery starts dropping | 22:24 |
| uvos__ | some android phone implementations swtich | 22:24 |
| uvos__ | depending on load | 22:24 |
| bencoh | (here at least, I saw it behaving differently in othr countries) | 22:24 |
| bencoh | which reminds me ... what's the state of the droid4's lte modem? | 22:25 |
| norayr | ok i was on chimaera already on pp, updating. hope it'll solve my kbd issues and charging issues. | 22:25 |
| norayr | i was not able to charge maemo on pp while it was up, it was taking more power than getting. | 22:25 |
| uvos__ | bencoh: still useless | 22:25 |
| uvos__ | you can start it and poke it by tellneting into it | 22:26 |
| uvos__ | and have it scann for networks too | 22:26 |
| uvos__ | but thats it since no where is a provider in a band it will find | 22:26 |
| norayr | am i right that macchanger freaks out internet connection daemon? | 22:26 |
| bencoh | uvos__: wait, what? why? | 22:26 |
| uvos__ | bencoh: it can do only one band | 22:27 |
| bencoh | oh | 22:27 |
| norayr | i cannot connect if i change the mac. | 22:27 |
| uvos__ | and that one band was only ever usd by verizon | 22:27 |
| bencoh | and I guess that band is LTE only in the US ... yeah | 22:27 |
| uvos__ | and verizon dosen activate phones without volte | 22:27 |
| uvos__ | so its totaly stuck | 22:27 |
| bencoh | thanks motorola/verizon I guess ... | 22:27 |
| bencoh | well, then droid4 has no real future :( | 22:27 |
| bencoh | (I mean, it's a 2012 phone anyway, but still) | 22:28 |
| uvos__ | yeah | 22:28 |
| bencoh | sad | 22:28 |
| norayr | yes i believe our main dev devices should be pp and ppp. maybe purism. maybe one plus - it is well supported under pmos i see. | 22:28 |
| uvos__ | i gues maybe it possible that the lte modem could do other bands | 22:28 |
| uvos__ | it seams wierd to design a frontend that can do only one band in 2012 | 22:29 |
| bencoh | uvos__: with firmware update or some hidden AT command you mean? | 22:29 |
| uvos__ | and the d4 was supposed to come to germany | 22:29 |
| uvos__ | but motorola folded before it happend | 22:29 |
| uvos__ | bencoh: sure i mean hw wise, the firmware dosent try any other bands for sure | 22:29 |
| uvos__ | the modem dosent use at commands at all btw | 22:31 |
| uvos__ | its a linux running device that presents as a usb network device that the android bits communicate over ip with | 22:32 |
| bencoh | interesting https://www.anandtech.com/show/4910/motorola-droid-bionic-review-dual-core-with-4g-lte/3 | 22:33 |
| uvos__ | turning the modem on also absolutly murders battery life | 22:33 |
| uvos__ | android dose so only on demand | 22:34 |
| uvos__ | and keeps it off most of the time | 22:34 |
| bencoh | according to it the w3lte is a motorola custom design (?) | 22:34 |
| uvos__ | yes | 22:34 |
| bencoh | that's awful :/ | 22:34 |
| uvos__ | its a omap2 integrated with a custom motorola frontend | 22:34 |
| uvos__ | or its 2 chips really | 22:34 |
| uvos__ | a omap cpu and a modem connected to that, its even in 2 packages | 22:35 |
| bencoh | considering what I'm reading in this page I wouldn't be surprised if the tuner wasn't actually bandpass-filtered | 22:36 |
| uvos__ | bencoh: yes | 22:36 |
| uvos__ | bencoh: the pa lna might be | 22:36 |
| uvos__ | (probubly is) | 22:36 |
| bencoh | or the antenna simply adapted for the 782MHz band | 22:36 |
| bencoh | anyway .... | 22:36 |
| uvos__ | sure that too | 22:36 |
| uvos__ | but the pa,lna chip is from a famaly of narow band ones | 22:37 |
| uvos__ | cant find the exact datasheet | 22:37 |
| uvos__ | but yeah | 22:37 |
| bencoh | "power reduction used for LTE? / No" :/ | 22:37 |
| norayr | apt-get upgrade didn't fix the keyboard layout for me on pp. | 23:26 |
| norayr | doing apt-get dist-upgrade. | 23:26 |
| norayr | the dash symbol should be typable via right alt + 7, or left arrow, recently, under pmos. | 23:27 |
| Wizzup | is this hwkbd? | 23:28 |
| Wizzup | I do not think we pkg xkb-data for pp | 23:28 |
| norayr | yes, hwkbd. | 23:45 |
| norayr | hmmm. where to take it? | 23:46 |
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