| bencoh | freemangordon: in what way aren't they sane? | 00:08 |
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| bencoh | real 104m50.788s - Success! \o/ | 00:08 |
| bencoh | -rw-r--r-- 1 bencoh bencoh 9.5M Jan 25 23:18 ../firefox-esr-dbgsym_102.7.0esr-1~deb11u1_armhf.deb | 00:08 |
| bencoh | 9.5M sounds .... tiny | 00:09 |
| bencoh | and looks like my build gave a very similar results ... now I see what you meant | 00:10 |
| bencoh | now ... I need a way to do a partial build if we want to patch that thing ... | 00:12 |
| Wizzup | dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -nc ? | 00:16 |
| bencoh | yeah, but it doesn't always work .... we'll see | 00:22 |
| bencoh | yeah, I add a static int variable in glxtest.cpp and tried dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -nc but it didn't do much, apart from checking the previously built package | 00:27 |
| norayr | CR = 12C - what is C, it is not hexadecimal i guess. | 01:43 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: yeah, somehow they (dh maintainers) managed to break -nc :( | 07:32 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1812016 | 07:57 |
| freemangordon | please, if you manage to build with symbols, try to get backtrace of the crash | 07:57 |
| freemangordon | it is tricky, as you have few seconds while 'profile' tab is loading to attach gdb to the pid of "Isolated Web Content", but not impossible | 07:58 |
| Wizzup | morn | 11:04 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: does't look like the sfos people picked up on my question, shall I file a bug report or something? | 11:06 |
| Wizzup | I can also just extend the voicecall manager dbus code | 11:06 |
| freemangordon | yeah, maybe bug report is better | 11:14 |
| sicelo | freemangordon: new libicd-ofono does update ofono context. tyvm | 11:25 |
| sicelo | looks like it updates it the next time context becomes active, i.e. not immediately after being set in cpl. anyway, works :-) | 11:26 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: uh there is no way to make an issue there | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | :D | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/sailfishos/voicecall | 11:32 |
| freemangordon | send an email to the maintainer | 11:44 |
| Wizzup | he's on irc, I could ping him | 11:45 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: are sure this is not ofono thing? | 13:12 |
| Wizzup | yup | 13:14 |
| Wizzup | telepathy-ring has a param for it in the channel creation | 13:14 |
| Wizzup | it's also a property and function in telepathy-qt basechannelhandler | 13:14 |
| Wizzup | but voicecall-manager doesn't use it nor export it over its dbus channel interface | 13:15 |
| freemangordon | ah, I see | 13:21 |
| freemangordon | does vcm provide access to tp handle? | 13:21 |
| freemangordon | I know that's a layering violation, but maybe that's how they do it | 13:22 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: that is what I thought, and IDN | 13:24 |
| Wizzup | in any case extension their dbus interface to add anonymous property is easy | 13:24 |
| Wizzup | extending* | 13:25 |
| freemangordon | right | 13:28 |
| Wizzup | extending* | 13:32 |
| Wizzup | but yeah | 13:32 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: how does this provides/conflicts/replaces work again | 13:44 |
| Wizzup | I did this | 13:44 |
| Wizzup | Provides: elogind | 13:44 |
| Wizzup | Replaces: elogind | 13:44 |
| Wizzup | Conflicts: elogind | 13:44 |
| Wizzup | but this doesn't seem to work | 13:44 |
| Wizzup | btw | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | it might be good to see how this works/worked: https://help.gnome.org/users/empathy/stable/favorite-rooms.html.en | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | looks like empathy has ~/.config/Empathy/chatrooms.xml | 14:16 |
| arno11 | part #maemo-leste | 15:54 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: yes, that's how it is supposed to work | 16:35 |
| freemangordon | what do you mean "does not seem to work"? | 16:36 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: The following packages have unmet dependencies: hildon-base : Conflicts: elogind | 17:07 |
| freemangordon | ummm. | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | that's weird | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | could you push that in a separate branch | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | I want to see what exactly did you do | 17:10 |
| freemangordon | also, how do you install the package? dpbg or apt | 17:14 |
| freemangordon | *dpkg | 17:14 |
| freemangordon | if you already have elogind installed, dpkg will not uninstall it | 17:14 |
| freemangordon | while apt will | 17:14 |
| freemangordon | bencoh: did you manage to build with debug symbols? | 17:15 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: https://wiki.debian.org/RenamingPackages?action=show&redirect=Renaming_a_Package | 17:17 |
| freemangordon | weird, they say to use 'breaks' | 17:17 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I did not have it installed of course (elogind) | 17:18 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I can push it in just a bit | 17:18 |
| freemangordon | please do | 17:18 |
| freemangordon | some 'elogind' branch | 17:18 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: it's trivial though, just: | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | Package: hildon-base | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | Architecture: all | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | -Conflicts: elogind | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | +Provides: elogind | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | +Replaces: elogind | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | and I also had a version where it does Conflict: as well | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | neither worked, then elogind was just installed by apt | 17:19 |
| Wizzup | but maybe this was 'my' elogind | 17:19 |
| freemangordon | yes | 17:20 |
| freemangordon | most-probably | 17:20 |
| freemangordon | try apt-cache policy elogind and see what is installed | 17:20 |
| freemangordon | but ok, will try in a minute | 17:20 |
| Wizzup | ok, ty | 17:21 |
| bencoh | freemangordon: I got the same result as the official package | 17:24 |
| freemangordon | did you try to fix that? without debug symbols it will be impossible to make any progress | 17:36 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ok, the issue is that elogind seems to replace systemd ;) | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | so I guess we shall provide systemd :D | 17:41 |
| freemangordon | ok, this is a mess | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | elogind: | 17:45 |
| freemangordon | Replaces: udev (<< 1:3.2.2+devuan1) | 17:45 |
| Wizzup | maybe it's not a feasible thing then | 17:47 |
| freemangordon | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | policykit-1 : Depends: default-logind or | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | logind or | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | consolekit but it is not going to be installed | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ^^^ | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | I am lost here, but can we install consolekit? | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | yep, installing consolekit solved gparted missing dependencies | 17:54 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: so, maybe hildon-base can conflict with elogind and suggests: consolekit | 17:55 |
| freemangordon | does not help | 17:58 |
| freemangordon | ok, my knowledge what consolekit is and is it ok to install it ends here | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | I think we have consolekit currently on chimaera, no? | 18:04 |
| Wizzup | hm, nope | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | no, and I guess that's why it wants to pull elogind | 18:30 |
| Wizzup | hmmm | 19:06 |
| Wizzup | uvos: did you have some time to look at my sphone pr? | 22:30 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: oh! I have an image | 22:30 |
| Wizzup | from ~18 hours ago | 22:31 |
| uvos | Wizzup: um yes | 22:53 |
| uvos | do you not have gh nottifications active? | 22:53 |
| uvos | its mostly fine, besides me not likeing dragging in the voicecall lib too in addition to tp, and being unfinished ofc | 22:55 |
| Wizzup | ah, I forgot to check my maemo leste inbox | 22:59 |
| Wizzup | the entire project was formatted by clang-format, so I'm surprised if tabs/spaces are a problem | 22:59 |
| uvos | well it generally dosent follow the codeing style | 22:59 |
| Wizzup | I didn't see a lot of C++ code in the repo :) | 23:00 |
| uvos | at least on gh it looks like its using spaces (maybe gh breaks this) | 23:00 |
| uvos | well if () vs if() is same in c/c++ | 23:00 |
| Wizzup | I can re-apply formatting pretty easily if I know which one you want | 23:00 |
| uvos | anyhow this dosent bother me mutch really | 23:00 |
| uvos | unless its really space indented | 23:00 |
| uvos | that bothers me | 23:00 |
| Wizzup | I'll have to check, I used the webkit format spec | 23:01 |
| Wizzup | as for using sfos, it seems to do a lot of things well and they're much better at writing TP than I am, so I don't think duplicating what they did makes any sense | 23:02 |
| uvos | so dose this pull the deamon too? | 23:03 |
| Wizzup | well the module requires the daemon to be installed on the system, yes | 23:03 |
| uvos | hmm | 23:03 |
| uvos | i really dont like that we have yet another deamon | 23:03 |
| uvos | if it where just a lib over tp id be fine | 23:03 |
| uvos | sphone ui -> sphone core -> voicecall -> tp -> ofono -> kernel is getting really silly imo | 23:04 |
| Wizzup | the alternative is I'd make a UI for the voicecall manager instead and add some mce plugin to it... | 23:05 |
| Wizzup | but then I'd have to re-do rtcom logging and abook, so that also seems like a waste of energy | 23:05 |
| uvos | not sure what mce has to do with any of this | 23:06 |
| uvos | and really id like to mostly drop abook from sphone | 23:06 |
| uvos | it only uses the dialog anyhow | 23:06 |
| uvos | really abook should just call sphone | 23:06 |
| uvos | then sphone itself dosent really need to deal with abook (as opposed to evolution) | 23:07 |
| Wizzup | it starts to feel to me like this won't be a good match for leste, if it's going the lack all the integrations we really want... | 23:08 |
| uvos | since it would never have to present a contact | 23:08 |
| uvos | no functionality really needs abook integration, besides showing a contact card for recents maybe | 23:08 |
| uvos | sphone never has to present a list of contacts | 23:09 |
| uvos | but if you want something entirely different thats fine of | 23:09 |
| uvos | c | 23:09 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup, yay! | 23:14 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: care to test https://maedevu.maemo.org/images-devel/pinephone/20230126-chimaera/ ? | 23:15 |
| rafael2k | : )) | 23:17 |
| rafael2k | I will | 23:17 |
| Wizzup | uvos: well it feels to me like my perceived pragmatiscm is hitting some academic walls, as in, I don't think you wanted to write a tp module, and now I did, re-using sfos code which saves a whole lot of time, and I'm not going to make it an exercise in TP for me by spending 2 weeks duplicating what they did | 23:17 |
| Wizzup | I just want to use sphone for my day to day usage, but that requires tp support for calls and rtcom in the ui, because that's what we aim in the project: to make maemo leste like fremantle in ux | 23:18 |
| uvos | reusing sfos code is fine, as in takeing the code, as libs or otherwiese and shoveing it into sphone | 23:23 |
| uvos | having another voice call manager running besides sphone is bad, in sfos they have what sphone-core and sphone-ui is in 2 sperate processies so having that deamon thare makes sense, here it just dosent | 23:23 |
| uvos | dosent prevent anyone from takeing code from that deamon | 23:23 |
| uvos | but using it? not great | 23:23 |
| rafael2k | I like AT | 23:25 |
| rafael2k | :P | 23:25 |
| rafael2k | I could help with the telephony part, but I'm using all my spare time in the camera stack | 23:26 |
| rafael2k | so, front camera working | 23:32 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup, 18 hours ago the kernel was not ready yet :P | 23:32 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: want another one? | 23:32 |
| Wizzup | I will start another before I go to sleep then, but if the above image doesn't work, then I will rm it not to confuse users | 23:33 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup, you decide, and I can also ask people to apt-get upgrade | 23:33 |
| rafael2k | if not much work, yes | 23:33 |
| rafael2k | agreef | 23:33 |
| Wizzup | shall I remove that one from maedevu then? | 23:34 |
| rafael2k | yes | 23:34 |
| rafael2k | lets have the great one with full camera support | 23:34 |
| Wizzup | it's gone | 23:35 |
| Wizzup | when shall I issue a build | 23:35 |
| Wizzup | is it ready now? | 23:35 |
| rafael2k | yes | 23:36 |
| rafael2k | ready | 23:36 |
| rafael2k | already tested | 23:36 |
| * Wizzup rebuilds | 23:36 | |
| Wizzup | will be 0126 then | 23:36 |
| rafael2k | ok | 23:37 |
| rafael2k | yay | 23:37 |
| rafael2k | gonna sleep | 23:37 |
| rafael2k | cheers! | 23:37 |
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