| Wizzup | I'm thinking that we need to get some maemo leste user channel that's bridged to various things | 13:00 |
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| Wizzup | not this one mind you | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | xmpp/matrix/irc/mattermost | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | just so that it's easier / more accepting for new users | 13:01 |
| Wizzup | we'd keep this of course | 13:01 |
| sicelo | i think bridging is fine. but not additional channel, until such point that there's really a lot of traffic to justify it | 13:13 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: hmmm ok | 13:22 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: we could set up some matterhost and use it's bridging stuff | 13:39 |
| Wizzup | its* | 13:39 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: but also for more ... persistence when we have new people, I guess | 13:41 |
| Wizzup | like people ask a question but then time out, and they never get an answer | 13:41 |
| Wizzup | that's partially because they are not used to irc | 13:41 |
| sicelo | matrix already has bridge to irc/libera, so i guess matrix users won't have a problem. maybe in wiki we could explain how they could connect to irc using matrix | 13:44 |
| Wizzup | if matrix is what you think most people use | 13:44 |
| Wizzup | I thought some public mattermost might also help | 13:44 |
| sicelo | xmpp users will most definitely know how to use irc, i'd guess :-) | 13:44 |
| sicelo | i just briefly checked mattermost ... seems fine, but i wonder if it's not another thing to be maintained, etc. with perhaps little gain | 13:46 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: I guess what it offers is public channel backlog and easier to upload pictures of bugs etc | 13:47 |
| Wizzup | that's why I said maybe we make some users channel there, not bridged to here | 13:47 |
| Wizzup | not sure | 13:47 |
| sicelo | i understand. i was also just adding my two cents. i don't really know what's the best way forward. | 13:48 |
| Wizzup | let's discuss a bit and think about it some :) | 13:48 |
| sicelo | but matrix is really popular nowadays, and seems to be a reasonable choice in general | 13:48 |
| Wizzup | I need to go out now and we're not in a rush | 13:48 |
| Wizzup | but making it more friendly to new people would be good | 13:48 |
| norayr | Folks i dont know what changed but using an onscreen kbd is not possible anymore | 14:35 |
| norayr | Enter doesnt work with both keyboard that is triggered by tapping an input field and by keyboard triggered by search button. | 14:36 |
| norayr | On pp i switched to pmos - no way to type without hwkbd and hwkbd is too heavy to always carry and use | 14:37 |
| norayr | I want but i just cannot use onscreen | 14:37 |
| norayr | Without having a hardware enter key | 14:38 |
| norayr | Both in dino and pidgin | 14:38 |
| norayr | I am sorry this is not a rant at all, i want to draw your attention since it is the essential feature | 14:38 |
| norayr | Its not possible to use a device without typing | 14:39 |
| norayr | On bridges - i am using xmpp to irc bridge now | 14:40 |
| Wizzup | yes, but that bridge is something you run | 14:42 |
| Wizzup | we won't ask every new user to run their own | 14:42 |
| Wizzup | re: input, file a bug I suppose | 14:42 |
| Wizzup | I'm not excited to put in a lot of time to support dino/pidgin better, I will put my energy in conversations | 14:43 |
| Wizzup | when it's usable, I might look at it | 14:43 |
| Wizzup | but others might have time/energy | 14:43 |
| norayr | Wizzup, i'll file a bug, i would like to stress again that is NOT about oidgin or dino, that is about EVERY gkt program. That is keyboard problem, not the programs' fault. | 16:59 |
| Wizzup | but I do not have these problems in gtk2 or gtk3 | 17:14 |
| Wizzup | so best to file a bug | 17:14 |
| buZz | did anyone notice receiving SMS sometimes makes the same SMS arrive endless many times? :) | 18:26 |
| buZz | maybe i should just distupgrade to chimaera | 18:27 |
| Wizzup | buZz: I noticed this on non-leste phones | 18:33 |
| Wizzup | seemed like a carrier problem | 18:33 |
| buZz | i'm not sure, its something i often hit | 18:34 |
| buZz | but if i receive the SMS -straight- after bootup, it never comes 'many times' | 18:34 |
| buZz | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 18:34 |
| buZz | its not a big issue i guess, was kinda wondering if the SMS have some unique ID so we can filter them away | 18:35 |
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