| bencoh | buZz: with 2g (gsm) yeah, but not with 3g | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| buZz | yeah, 3g has been turned off in .nl :( | 00:26 |
| buZz | 2g works though | 00:26 |
| uvos__ | buZz: so dose it work with ofono scripts | 09:09 |
| Wizzup | buZz: 3g works for t-mobile, not kpn | 09:51 |
| buZz | uvos__: yep, ofono-scripts work | 12:06 |
| sicelo | just to be sure, i think he was asking - on the sim where sms doesn't work with sphone, does sms work with ofono-scripts? | 12:15 |
| buZz | sicelo: sms works with sphone, just not as initiator | 12:30 |
| buZz | and ofono-scripts' send-sms does send a msg, just doesnt hit the databases locally then | 12:30 |
| uvos__ | buZz: ok this sounds really wierd | 12:31 |
| buZz | its since i use leste | 12:32 |
| uvos__ | your sending the first sms with ofono too? | 12:32 |
| uvos__ | replying in sphone just opens the same dialog as sms-new | 12:32 |
| buZz | right, -replying- works after a phonenr sms'd me first | 12:32 |
| buZz | -sending- to a new number , doesnt | 12:32 |
| uvos__ | where | 12:32 |
| buZz | anywhere | 12:33 |
| uvos__ | ofono-scripts, sphone or both | 12:33 |
| buZz | ofono-scripts works always, sphone never | 12:33 |
| uvos__ | ok | 12:33 |
| buZz | sphone does work for reply'ing | 12:33 |
| uvos__ | thats really wierd | 12:33 |
| uvos__ | as the dialog is the sam | 12:33 |
| uvos__ | e | 12:33 |
| buZz | its since i'm using sphone | 12:33 |
| uvos__ | the only difference is the dialog is opened with the number and backend preset | 12:33 |
| uvos__ | you are sure that when you use sms-new isntead of reply to open the dialog | 12:34 |
| buZz | yes | 12:34 |
| uvos__ | you are entering the exact same thing sphone would set itself with reply? | 12:34 |
| buZz | i can type 06xxxxx, or +316xxxxx, neither arrives | 12:34 |
| uvos__ | (includeing selecting ofono isntead of comtest if thats defoult) | 12:34 |
| buZz | its on ofono by default | 12:35 |
| uvos__ | ok | 12:35 |
| uvos__ | could you provde a verbose sphone log of sending a sms via sms-new? | 12:35 |
| buZz | i'm not sure it even reaches ofono | 12:36 |
| buZz | lets see | 12:36 |
| uvos__ | killall sphone; sphone -v -v | 12:36 |
| uvos__ | sphone -c sms-new | 12:36 |
| buZz | zero new sphone output after sms-new sending, but, i did get 'sms received' notification on d4 of my own sent sms? O_o | 12:39 |
| buZz | yet, nothing on the target sim | 12:39 |
| buZz | almost like its setting the sms in 'incoming' instead of 'outbox' or something? | 12:40 |
| uvos__ | thats comtest | 12:41 |
| uvos__ | it should say "comtest" next to the thread | 12:42 |
| uvos__ | in sms-history | 12:42 |
| uvos__ | thats how it works it echos back sms | 12:42 |
| buZz | oh huh, indeed, ty | 12:42 |
| buZz | lets see | 12:42 |
| uvos__ | you have to use ofono ofc | 12:42 |
| uvos__ | as the backend | 12:42 |
| uvos__ | maybe there is something wrong with the combobox | 12:43 |
| buZz | omg, | 12:43 |
| buZz | this does work | 12:43 |
| uvos__ | ok | 12:43 |
| buZz | still, no sphone output in -v -v window | 12:43 |
| uvos__ | that might be normal | 12:43 |
| uvos__ | can check the code rn | 12:43 |
| uvos__ | so you where just selecting comtest as the backend? | 12:43 |
| uvos__ | to send new sms | 12:43 |
| uvos__ | ? | 12:43 |
| buZz | i tried ofono , after handstarting -c sms-new, which works | 12:44 |
| uvos__ | ok | 12:44 |
| buZz | but 'sms new' from menu has ofono preselected | 12:44 |
| buZz | ahhhh | 12:45 |
| uvos__ | and this odent work still? | 12:45 |
| uvos__ | dose it work if you select comtest and then ofono again beofore sending? | 12:45 |
| buZz | 'sms new' from menu works, if i tap 'ofono' and select 'ofono' again in menu | 12:45 |
| uvos__ | ok | 12:45 |
| buZz | not without selecting | 12:45 |
| uvos__ | so theres something wrong with the combobox | 12:45 |
| uvos__ | ok | 12:45 |
| buZz | thanks for debugging this uvos__ <3 | 12:45 |
| uvos__ | oh i mean its my bug :P | 12:45 |
| buZz | such a quality of life feature | 12:45 |
| buZz | i know, still appreciate it greatly :) | 12:46 |
| uvos__ | ok should not be to hard to fix | 12:46 |
| uvos__ | but makes sense that i dont see it | 12:46 |
| uvos__ | it depends on which order the backends are loaded | 12:46 |
| buZz | maybe the commtest could just be disabled? :P | 12:47 |
| uvos__ | sure you can disable it in sphone.ini | 12:47 |
| uvos__ | untill i release a fix | 12:47 |
| buZz | wonder if that'll fix it :) lets see | 12:47 |
| buZz | where is sphone.ini ? not in /etc ? | 12:48 |
| uvos__ | /usr/share/sphone | 12:48 |
| buZz | ah /usr/share/shpon | 12:48 |
| buZz | yeh | 12:48 |
| buZz | :P | 12:48 |
| uvos__ | and you shal copy it to ~ | 12:48 |
| uvos__ | and edit there | 12:48 |
| sicelo | https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1575082&postcount=613 salutem needs update i guess | 12:49 |
| uvos__ | ~/.sphone/sphone.ini | 12:49 |
| uvos__ | sicelo: unfotionatly talk.maemo.org rarely loads for me | 12:50 |
| uvos__ | whats needed? | 12:50 |
| buZz | > When I install the latest N900 image from the N900 Leste wikipage from the latest image link I still get when I launch Leste the welcome window which states there is a major update which I can find behind a link. But the date in the stating text points to an earlier date. Which is the latest? From the wikipage link or the welcome window? | 12:50 |
| uvos__ | idk if salutem is the right place to put this information anyhow | 12:52 |
| uvos__ | (i know its there rn) | 12:52 |
| uvos__ | really i envisoned salutem to display some mostly unchangeing stuff like tipps and how to get started | 12:52 |
| uvos__ | not "news" | 12:52 |
| uvos__ | so i would just remove this link from salutem | 12:52 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: ^^^? | 12:52 |
| Wizzup | we are working on a proper user guide anyway, so might replace it with that too | 12:52 |
| Wizzup | html version of it or so | 12:53 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: yeah that would be great | 12:53 |
| uvos__ | would be easy to make salutem display a hiarcy of html pages | 12:53 |
| uvos__ | that constitue the manual | 12:53 |
| buZz | uvos__: imho just put 'read the wiki for the latest versions' or something | 12:54 |
| uvos__ | or maybe we want salutem to display just news and have another application for the manual | 12:54 |
| uvos__ | dunno | 12:54 |
| uvos__ | needs policy desision | 12:54 |
| buZz | meh, even with commtest disabled in sphone.ini, not selecting 'ofono' makes 'sms new' not work | 12:56 |
| uvos__ | ok | 12:57 |
| buZz | it seems 'delivery report' in ofono-scripts doesnt work btw | 13:16 |
| buZz | while adding those characters on a sms i type myself in sphone's interface, does work for delivery report | 13:17 |
| uvos__ | interesting | 13:17 |
| uvos__ | yeah i know delivery reports dont work in ofono | 13:18 |
| Wizzup | in sphone, or ofonod? | 13:21 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: ofono | 13:21 |
| uvos__ | like if you use the dbus interface to reqest a sms with dlr | 13:21 |
| uvos__ | you wont get any | 13:21 |
| Wizzup | hm, wonder if it works in tp-ring | 13:21 |
| Wizzup | I seem to remember it did work, but idk | 13:22 |
| uvos__ | sphone also just dosent support delivery reports | 13:22 |
| uvos__ | but thats a different issue | 13:22 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 13:23 |
| buZz | uvos__: it kinda does if you just put the characters in | 13:30 |
| buZz | just "*0# " at the start of the sms | 13:31 |
| buZz | oh, its provider specific :( | 13:31 |
| buZz | at tmobile its "! " | 13:31 |
| uvos__ | buZz: yeah you have to parse that from the sim | 13:32 |
| uvos__ | maybe ofono failes to do this | 13:32 |
| uvos__ | idk | 13:32 |
| buZz | ah could be | 13:33 |
| uvos__ | it dosent work thats for sure | 13:33 |
| sicelo | delivery report comes in on which ofono signal? | 14:29 |
| maemish_ | First time here I think. Second time using irc. Anyone present? | 21:36 |
| gliffy | Yes | 21:41 |
| maemish_ | Have you been using Leste-Devel? | 21:41 |
| gliffy | Not actively. Did try it while trying to debug an issue with the n900 | 21:42 |
| maemish_ | I tried to boot it today but can't get to hildon. Boot scripts go through but then just a black screen. Is there something special I should do to get to hildon? | 21:43 |
| maemish_ | Took pictures of the boot scripts: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dwnw8a3v82knm26/AACLk_VLSeN50AUOWcQwQMYka?dl=0 | 21:44 |
| gliffy | No it should just boot up. Hold on I will try it on my device. | 21:47 |
| maemish_ | The latest. I tested the stable but because the latest image was much slower than some earlier image I had tried I thought to give the devel a try. I have Maemo 5 CSSU testing with Kernel-power 53 and u-boot. | 21:49 |
| maemish_ | It also takes ages before it starts the boot scripts. | 21:51 |
| maemish_ | Compared to stable. | 21:51 |
| gliffy | This slowness was the exact thing I was trying to debug. I narrowed it down to a change between builds 20220123 and 20220206. Maemo 5 setup doesn't affect leste. | 21:51 |
| gliffy | freemangordon Did you have the same issue with this? | 21:53 |
| gliffy | You mentioned you could try this on your device when you could :) | 21:54 |
| Wizzup | hi, semi present | 21:55 |
| maemish_ | Other notices: QTbrowser was not working. Load a newspaper site but just froze and no way to scroll the page. Same with Surf2. | 22:00 |
| maemish_ | This with stable | 22:00 |
| maemish_ | I see message "closed connection". Is this still online? | 22:05 |
| gliffy | Here I still am! | 22:05 |
| gliffy | I think you are looking at a quit message | 22:06 |
| maemish_ | That someone quit his connection? Ok. | 22:07 |
| gliffy | Yes | 22:07 |
| gliffy | I have the same problem with the dev build | 22:08 |
| maemish_ | Bummer. | 22:09 |
| maemish_ | Got synaptic working on stable. | 22:10 |
| Wizzup | qt web browser on beowulf is a lot slower, but yeah, any website that uses a lot of cpu/ram cannot work | 22:12 |
| maemish_ | Could it work to install stable, change repos to devel and to do upgrade? | 22:12 |
| gliffy | Yes | 22:13 |
| sicelo | maemish_: one of the things you should do is run `/etc/expandcard.sh` | 22:13 |
| maemish_ | Have done it every time. | 22:13 |
| maemish_ | It is now on welcome message on Leste | 22:14 |
| sicelo | ok. i see a message about rootfs being too full in your log | 22:14 |
| maemish_ | I saw it too. | 22:15 |
| maemish_ | Stable launches fine. | 22:15 |
| sicelo | mmm, no udc found ...i guess that's old image? this shouldn't be a problem nowadays, i hope | 22:15 |
| maemish_ | The latest from devel. | 22:15 |
| maemish_ | https://maedevu.maemo.org/images-devel/n900/ | 22:16 |
| maemish_ | Installed today. | 22:16 |
| Wizzup | ah, on n900 qt web browser is slow inded | 22:16 |
| Wizzup | there are newer non-devel images | 22:16 |
| gliffy | Latest devel is from 01.01.2023 so idk do you count that as old? | 22:16 |
| Wizzup | but we need to make the chimaera switch happen pretty soon | 22:17 |
| Wizzup | I've been swamped with rl work | 22:17 |
| Wizzup | https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/n900/ <- newer | 22:17 |
| sicelo | that's bad about udc ... although it won't cause slowness | 22:18 |
| maemish_ | Yes that is stable but because it was so slow I thought maybe devel would have been more updated. | 22:18 |
| sicelo | mmm, udc is broken in stable? :-O | 22:20 |
| sicelo | what kernel version was that? | 22:20 |
| Wizzup | no, beowulf we have not updated much at all in the last 2-3 months | 22:20 |
| Wizzup | we're just focussing on chimaera | 22:20 |
| Wizzup | and we just have elogind blocking us now | 22:20 |
| sicelo | i'm reading maemish_'s report | 22:21 |
| sicelo | maemish_: "Application manager is a bit burden to use cause scrolling with stylus doesn't work that well. The same happens with different settings menus" | 22:22 |
| sicelo | why not scroll with thumb? :-) | 22:22 |
| maemish_ | I think the same goes with thumb but just said stylus cause I use it. | 22:22 |
| maemish_ | Like the menu does not want to stop or it is hard to select keyboard layout for instance. | 22:23 |
| maemish_ | Not impossible though. | 22:24 |
| maemish_ | Have to ask: Maemo 5 has screen calibration. Is it not needed on Leste? | 22:25 |
| sicelo | i haven't needed it. do you find things are off-center for you? | 22:26 |
| maemish_ | No, just thought if it would have affect on scrolling with stylus, how it reacts. | 22:27 |
| sicelo | no | 22:27 |
| maemish_ | But so because I am no dev should I wait then chimaera? If many things may have been solved on that? | 22:28 |
| sicelo | submitting issues is a way to contribute | 22:28 |
| maemish_ | Was the devel-repo info somewhere, if I install stable which launches and could try what upgrade witj devel repo does? | 22:29 |
| sicelo | maybe sstay on stable until chimaera arrives, then see how things go there | 22:30 |
| maemish_ | But I could try now that I have taken N900 after a year break back on use. | 22:33 |
| sicelo | sure :-) | 22:33 |
| maemish_ | Where can I find the devel-repo info? And is it ok to put on application manager or to sources list? | 22:36 |
| Wizzup | xinput_calibrator works fwiw | 22:37 |
| maemish_ | Just now came in mind that was it so that devel-repo is in application manager and just needs to be enabled? | 22:49 |
| Wizzup | no, there is no extras-devel | 22:49 |
| maemish_ | so no devel-repo to try out? | 22:50 |
| Wizzup | for extras? no | 22:51 |
| Wizzup | unless you mean something else with "devel-repo" | 22:52 |
| maemish_ | Thanks. | 22:52 |
| gliffy | maemish_: Add "deb https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste beowulf-devel main contrib non-free n900" to your sources.list | 22:52 |
| gliffy | I think this is what you mean? | 22:52 |
| maemish_ | Yes. Thanks. | 22:52 |
| maemish_ | Gonna do aptitude upgrade | 22:53 |
| maemish_ | With fix missing | 22:53 |
| Wizzup | If you used the -devel image this is already present | 22:54 |
| Wizzup | jfyi | 22:54 |
| maemish_ | Devel image doesn't launch. After boot scripts just black screen. | 22:57 |
| Wizzup | oh, I see | 22:58 |
| Wizzup | well, it's older, too | 22:58 |
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