libera/#maemo-leste/ Monday, 2023-04-03

Wizzupfreemangordon: btw, how can xorg open input devices if it is not in the input group01:40
WizzupI guess like you said it asks elogind to do it for it01:40
Wizzupfreemangordon: uvos__: personally I think going the inhibited route first makes more sense02:07
Wizzupbut that is mostly because I fear the xorg path will take a lot of time03:01
freemangordonit is elogind that opens them07:19
Wizzupfreemangordon: ugh what a hack11:32
WizzupI understand why, but still11:32
dsc_BlagovestPetrov[: did the cable work?15:16
BlagovestPetrov[nope :/ I've tried to solder it but the connector is too small15:17
dsc_ok :)15:18
BlagovestPetrov[it's not impossible but it's really difficult15:19
BlagovestPetrov[if if works once, maybe we can order more cables from Alibaba15:19
dsc_https://cdn.kroket.io/~sander/paste/maemo.txt17:52
buZzativate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option.17:52
Wizzupyeah, add -o APT..=true17:53
dsc_after doing that and rebooting: https://cdn.kroket.io/~sander/pic/235236.png17:57
dsc_ill reset VM ;)17:57
dsc_try installing libmafw-shared0-dev libmafw-shared0-dev-dbgsym17:58
dsc_ill grab it from source instead17:58
dsc_fyi `APT::Force-LoopBreak` broke my VM, need to start over, whats the latest image out of these https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/virtual-machines/?C=N&O=D18:11
dsc_https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/virtual-machines/20230212/?C=N&O=D <== is this chimaera?18:12
buZzlooks like you didnt dist-upgrade before rebooting?18:13
buZzor not sure, i guess18:14
dsc_https://cdn.kroket.io/~sander/pic/362362362.png18:15
dsc_new VM18:15
dsc_? :P18:15
dsc_^ maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-20230212.qcow2.xz18:16
Wizzuphm18:19
WizzupI am not sure if that is chimaera18:19
Wizzuplet me check18:19
dsc_https://cdn.kroket.io/~sander/paste/wepoghwe.txt18:21
dsc_this `elogind` keeps coming back :D18:21
Wizzupuse dist-upgrade, not upgade18:22
Wizzupand yes, this loop break should be necessary once, we're still making some (breaking) changes to chimaera18:23
dsc_ok let me start over once again with a fresh VM18:23
WizzupI'm building a chimaera image now18:23
Wizzupit wasn't building for a while it seems18:23
WizzupI forgot to schedule periodical builds18:23
Wizzup(for the vm image)18:23
dsc_ah18:23
dsc_do you recommend waiting for that one?18:23
dsc_I think dist-upgrade is broken tbh18:24
dsc_at least for this image I just tried18:24
dsc_which is18:24
dsc_maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-20230212.qcow2.xz18:24
dsc_let me try again18:24
Wizzuphttps://phoenix.maemo.org/view/Images/job/leste-image-virtual/127/18:25
Wizzupthis is building now18:25
dsc_cool18:25
dsc_thanks18:25
Wizzupdsc_: image is rsync'd20:51
Wizzuphttps://maedevu.maemo.org/images/virtual-machines/20230403-chimaera/20:51
Wizzup(I haven't tested it yet)20:51
dsc_thanks, this one works21:20
Wizzupgreat21:32
freemangordonxorg/xorg-libinput is too hacky to be fixed properly22:24
freemangordonmaybe I'll waste some more time on it, but I doubt I'll be able to find a proper way to fix it22:25
Wizzuplet's go for inhibited22:30
Wizzupwe explicitly don't do hybris stuff22:31
freemangordonit is not about hybris22:31
freemangordonI just don;t feel it right22:31
freemangordonlike, xorg should be able to manage its own variables, no?22:31
Wizzupfreemangordon: we can just build xorg without elogind22:34
Wizzupit will still work all the same22:34
Wizzupthe only difference is that it's not running as user22:34
Wizzupand it won't suffer from this bug22:34
WizzupI still think doing inhibited is useful regardless for other pm reasons (like poor userspace keeping all fds open)22:35
freemangordonI am not sure building xorg without logind works the same22:46
freemangordonlike, does polkit agent still work?22:47
freemangordonanyway, I want to waste few more days on that before giving up22:48
Wizzup:( ok22:49
Wizzupfreemangordon: why wouldn't the polkit agent work btw?22:55

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