| norayr | i tried macchanger as mentioned on wiki, but it looks like icd freaks out when i use it. | 13:33 |
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| norayr | and nothing connects since i change the mac. | 13:33 |
| Wizzup | nothing connects = ? | 13:41 |
| norayr | no wifi network connects when i use macchanger. | 13:44 |
| norayr | icd doesn't connect to wifi networks anymore. | 13:44 |
| norayr | i think it remembers the mac and when it is changed, it freaks out? | 13:45 |
| norayr | let me try again. | 13:45 |
| norayr | well, right now macchanger -a or -r wlan0 returns | 13:47 |
| norayr | [ERROR] Could not change MAC: interface up or insufficient permissions: Device or resoure busy. | 13:47 |
| norayr | with root | 13:47 |
| norayr | aha, i disconnected wifi, went to offline mode, and macchanger worked | 13:49 |
| norayr | but now icd doesn't connect to the known wifi. | 13:50 |
| norayr | now i need to reboot to be able to use wifi again. :/ | 13:52 |
| norayr | please try to repeat it. | 13:53 |
| Wizzup | maybe file a bug | 13:56 |
| Wizzup | what happens if you restart icd2? | 13:56 |
| norayr | oh, how to do that? | 13:57 |
| norayr | is the script in /etc/init.d ? | 13:57 |
| Wizzup | sudo service icd2 restart | 13:57 |
| maxwelld | let me try | 13:59 |
| Wizzup | norayr: I assume ifname does not get changed | 14:34 |
| maxwelld | so no only reboot helped. | 14:35 |
| maxwelld | let me try | 14:35 |
| asinnerm3 | Hi, am trying to run maemo-leste on Virtual Box but apparently am here because am unable to figure out how to run it, I downloaded the latest maemo-chimaera.vdi tried to create the VB but it is asking me for the iso, so apparently am doing something wrong in the creation, am on VB 7 on windows 10 | 18:14 |
| buZz | asinnerm3: maybe remove the cdrom drive from your VM? | 18:26 |
| buZz | i'll try aswell, with maemo-leste-1.0-amd64-20230423.vdi.xz | 18:27 |
| asinnerm3 | I chose to boot from other, I will retry and create the VB am doing something wrong but am unable to figure out what | 18:28 |
| buZz | boots for me | 18:31 |
| buZz | did you unpack the .xz file? | 18:32 |
| buZz | should unpack into a 3GB file | 18:32 |
| buZz | https://i.imgur.com/T260TUa.png | 18:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | sounds like a vbox issue. | 18:33 |
| buZz | i used https://i.imgur.com/ggFZJDO.png | 18:33 |
| buZz | https://i.imgur.com/MbhADVr.png | 18:33 |
| buZz | and i removed the IDE controller / cddrive completely | 18:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | for vdi files, I would usually create a new VM > Linux > Other. Then use existing virtual disk file and select the vdi. | 18:35 |
| buZz | hmhm, i used 'debian 11 64bit' , anything should work i guess | 18:36 |
| asinnerm3 | on wiki it says debian 64 but i will retry and create | 18:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | It's flexible in this case obviously Win or Mac will not work. | 18:39 |
| asinnerm3 | it worked finally | 18:45 |
| asinnerm3 | https://imgur.com/a/0v7eP4T | 18:47 |
| asinnerm3 | this time i chose linux other 64 as @sixwheeledbeast suggested and following @buZz setting screenshot | 18:49 |
| buZz | w00t | 18:50 |
| buZz | mameo :D | 18:50 |
| buZz | hehe | 18:50 |
| asinnerm3 | https://imgur.com/a/Hx2dYU7 | 18:52 |
| asinnerm3 | now it is stuck on here | 18:53 |
| asinnerm3 | oh wait i named it mameo? lol type and let go lol | 18:53 |
| asinnerm3 | and now am getting a VB exeption error and it is not starting | 18:57 |
| buZz | maybe read the error? :) | 19:00 |
| asinnerm3 | i think vb 7 is still bugged on win10? had to restart the vm and it booted again, but still maemo is not loading and getting stuck at "waiting for /dev to be fully populated | 19:03 |
| buZz | what if you wait for 5 minutes on that msg? | 19:04 |
| asinnerm3 | am gonna wait and see | 19:05 |
| asinnerm3 | on here https://imgur.com/a/Hx2dYU7 | 19:06 |
| asinnerm3 | apparently it is stuck at this stage | 19:14 |
| asinnerm3 | either windows version is buggy, or some setting needs to be changed, might try that either on mac or linux | 19:14 |
| buZz | bizar, havent seen that | 19:17 |
| asinnerm3 | worked now, i unchecked the 3d acceleration as i did enable it when i created the VM | 19:22 |
| asinner-m3 | my god how i missed this DE | 19:31 |
| Wizzup | :) | 19:36 |
| Wizzup | asinner-m3: did you attend CORS/CLUC? | 19:36 |
| Wizzup | DORS/CLUC* | 19:36 |
| asinner-m3 | Wizzup no I wish i can | 19:40 |
| Wizzup | ah, check :) | 19:40 |
| asinner-m3 | between how do you see the mouse cursor so you one don't guess where to click | 19:41 |
| Wizzup | I think this should just work, depending on what input device is seen in virtualbox | 19:43 |
| Wizzup | buZz: do you use virtualbox? | 19:44 |
| buZz | no, only tried it now | 19:44 |
| buZz | to confirm 'it works' for asinner-m3 | 19:44 |
| buZz | i dont know how to press the powerbutton for instance :D | 19:44 |
| Wizzup | do you seen a mouse cursor? | 19:45 |
| buZz | i did not | 19:46 |
| buZz | but no idea if thats a mistake on my config, or something i could/should change on the VM image | 19:46 |
| asinner-m3 | guess i should check the settings again, and i have an idea if i got a lte extension and plugged it in the pc and inserted my sim card in it will it work? | 19:46 |
| asinner-m3 | acpi shutdown for screen unlock | 19:47 |
| asinner-m3 | under machine tab | 19:47 |
| buZz | ah :) | 19:47 |
| buZz | asinner-m3: i dont think it will work to just pass a usb modem to maemo vm, it needs quite some specifics to work | 19:48 |
| sicelo | power button - the hypervisor should provide that ... | 19:48 |
| asinner-m3 | have not yet checked the mouse settings | 19:48 |
| buZz | but, it might, who knows | 19:48 |
| asinner-m3 | once update is done am gonna change the mouse pointer settings to something else and see if it change for mouse cursor view | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | asinner-m3: basically if the VM sees a touch screen or absolute input device, it does not show the cursor | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | if it sees a mouse or relative input device, it will show the cursor | 19:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | as default there is no mouse from when i tested it. Not sure if there is an option for that | 19:54 |
| sixwheeledbeast | the screen also blanks and locks which is awkward if you don't realise what's happening. | 19:55 |
| sicelo | in mine, it shows a message when screen is blanked | 19:59 |
| sicelo | and i have a mouse pointer ... in qemu invocation, i have `-usb -device usb-tablet` | 20:00 |
| asinner-m3 | i had the mouse captured in the vm for it to show within the VM, granted once in the vm you cannot drag it outside the window | 20:00 |
| sicelo | that's a hypervisor issue, i think ... | 20:01 |
| asinner-m3 | was thinking to change the mouse setting and see what change | 20:01 |
| sicelo | in fact I qemu, it doesn't even need to grab | 20:01 |
| asinner-m3 | yeah might be my mouse setting option within the vm, will shutdown and change it | 20:02 |
| asinner-m3 | changing the settings did change the need t grab the mouse for it to show within the vb so far | 20:07 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: I think that depends on the qemu frontend you use | 20:08 |
| Wizzup | if you use vnc then you will not see the pointer I think, but qemu-gtk you will | 20:08 |
| Wizzup | something weird like that | 20:08 |
| Wizzup | as in, you see the host pointer, not the guest one | 20:08 |
| Wizzup | but that's just a guess | 20:08 |
| Wizzup | in any case when we figure it out we ought to update the wiki page | 20:08 |
| asinner-m3 | still trying to find different settings, maybe it is the VBOX thing or the fact that am actually using the built in touchpad? i will try to insert a usb mouse and play with the settings | 20:13 |
| asinner-m3 | found a small trick, if you use the scroll wheel within the virtual box the cursor will flash for a sec to know where you are about | 20:19 |
| asinner-m3 | if you don't wanna use the grab mouse option | 20:19 |
| sicelo | in some cases the hypervisor may need you to install some stuff in the guest for certain features to work, e.g. to remove need to grab mouse | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | can you run 'xinnput list' | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | 'xinput list' | 20:19 |
| asinner-m3 | sure | 20:19 |
| asinner-m3 | guess am gonna need to install the xinput | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | yes | 20:23 |
| asinner-m3 | https://imgur.com/a/RTDYonc | 20:24 |
| Wizzup | hmm, so maybe you have two mice? | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | what if you do xinput disable 9 | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | (you can undo that with xinput enable 9) | 20:26 |
| asinner-m3 | sure will try, i guess now it sees my laptop trackpad and my wireless mouse | 20:28 |
| sicelo | looks interesting, https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/bugtracker/issues/36 | 20:30 |
| sicelo | i wonder who's Leon | 20:31 |
| Wizzup | cool | 20:31 |
| asinner-m3 | Wizzup: https://imgur.com/a/pXL4NpI | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | asinner-m3: do you see the cursor now? | 20:33 |
| asinner-m3 | Wizzup: i confirm i see it | 20:33 |
| asinner-m3 | and can interact | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | so did it solve your problem? | 20:33 |
| asinner-m3 | yes | 20:33 |
| asinner-m3 | wait no | 20:34 |
| asinner-m3 | i cannot interact, the mouse show but no longer can click | 20:34 |
| asinner-m3 | well it is interacting but not clicking | 20:35 |
| asinner-m3 | if i click on the main desktop the setting option appear but i cannot left click anything so far | 20:36 |
| Wizzup | ah, ok | 20:37 |
| Wizzup | can you enable it and disable the other one? | 20:37 |
| asinner-m3 | what is the keyboard shortcut to start the terminal | 20:38 |
| asinner-m3 | nevermind i grabbed the mouse to enable 9 | 20:41 |
| asinner-m3 | what was the other? | 20:41 |
| Wizzup | 11 I think | 20:42 |
| asinner-m3 | yeah i disabled it | 20:43 |
| asinner-m3 | but i lost the mouse within the VM even grabbed | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:44 |
| Wizzup | hmm | 20:44 |
| asinner-m3 | enabled it | 20:44 |
| asinner-m3 | in the VM settings am using the PS2 mouse option | 20:44 |
| Wizzup | what other options are there for the vm settings? | 20:44 |
| asinner-m3 | let me check | 20:46 |
| asinner-m3 | usb tablet, usb multi-touch tablet, usb MT touchscreen and touchpad | 20:49 |
| asinner-m3 | ps/2 mouse obviously | 20:49 |
| asinner-m3 | wouldn't it make sense to use the touchscreen touchpad option in this case | 20:53 |
| asinner-m3 | well i chose the usb mt touchscreen and touchpad same need to capture the mouse to work | 20:55 |
| sicelo | libicd-network-dummy still has the issue where you need to do some extra work for it to show up in connection dialog? | 20:55 |
| asinner-m3 | am wondering if i added a filter in the usb option for the mouth would that make any difference!!! | 20:56 |
| sicelo | you could try :-) | 20:57 |
| sicelo | or, you could use FOSS hypervisor - qemu | 20:57 |
| asinner-m3 | sicelo: I never tried qemu, will look into it | 20:58 |
| sicelo | i think there's nowadays libvirt and a lot of front-ends for it. should be even easier | 20:58 |
| asinner-m3 | add the mouse to the filter, the system show that it see it but the system (maemo) did not recognize it as if it was disabled | 21:05 |
| asinner-m3 | working with trackpad since even windows now does not recognized because that usb port is used by the VB filter | 21:06 |
| asinner-m3 | interestingly mouse wheel works but xinput now show it as keyboard and mouse and i blame the receiver since this is a wireless mouse | 21:11 |
| Wizzup | are you saying that just the touchpad (with wireles not plugged in) does work? | 21:15 |
| asinner-m3 | not within the VB client | 21:32 |
| asinner-m3 | same as if the USB is not there, I plugged a usb mouse now to see if anything changes but no, once i add the filter maemo seems to be confused what it is!!! so scrolling work but the mouse pointer does not move | 21:34 |
| asinner-m3 | so far i could not find a way to make it work within and outside the vb simultaneously it is either grabbed or wont show the cursor, but do work (hidden) when not grabbed | 21:46 |
| asinner-m3 | thank you all for all the help to get me started with maemo-leste with VB, cheers for now | 21:47 |
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