libera/#maemo-leste/ Monday, 2023-05-29

siceloarno11: what's the problem with headphone? ... you mention it needs kernel work00:04
arno11sicelo: i can't use earphone during calls. only HP. seems few controls are missing compared to fremantle00:12
Wizzup_it's likely that fremantle controls will not match 1:1 mainline controls00:13
Wizzup_due to how mainline linux evolved00:13
arno11Wizzup: thx for this better explaination :)00:14
maemish_Any easy way to get all apps I wan't to be on the main desktop on Leste? Meaning launcher icons for them. The desktop settings do not give possibility for debian side apps but neither the ones installed from application manager.01:21
sixwheeledbeastThey don't auto populate. You add shortcuts from the "cog" menu01:22
maemish_cog?01:23
sixwheeledbeasttap blank space on the the desktop you get a "cog" aka "gear" popup top right.01:34
sixwheeledbeastor long press desktop01:35
maemish_Yes but as I said above you won't get all apps from there01:47
sixwheeledbeastThey are .desktop files you can make them and add them.01:48
sixwheeledbeastit's been a good while since I have done it.01:48
maemish_And that was my question: how?01:49
sixwheeledbeastI'd imagine it's in /usr/share01:49
sixwheeledbeast/usr/share/applications/hildon01:51
sixwheeledbeasthttps://wiki.maemo.org/Desktop_file_format01:51
maemish_Thanks! Will try to learn.01:51
freemangordonhmm:07:06
freemangordonchromium_flags.append(" --enable-oop-rasterization --enable-gpu-rasterization --enable-native-gpu-memory-buffers --use-gl=desktop");07:06
freemangordonwhy is that needed at all?07:07
freemangordonah, I see07:09
freemangordonok, seems GPU is used, also, I don;t see much difference compared with qtwebbrowser07:48
freemangordonthere is an issue with user agent though - YT refuse to open (browser too old)07:48
maxwelldi installed vulture-browser from ham, and it looks like the package does not contain proper maemo icon..11:32
maxwelldah i see your discussion11:34
maxwelldmaemish_, here https://leste.maemo.org/Development/Porting_Packages#Porting_existing_Maemo_Fremantle_packages i think it is written in details about packaging and icon too.11:36
le0nklcppfreemangordon: user agent will be updated in new version, on hardware acceleration: these options also do something, at least font atifacts appear :)13:11
Wizzup_le0nklcpp: font artifacts means it's gpu rendered currently unfortunately :p13:35
freemangordonle0nklcpp: what options?14:59
freemangordonwhat do you set for QTWEBENGINE_CHROMIUM_FLAGS?14:59
le0nklcpponly these --enable-oop-rasterization --enable-gpu-rasterization --enable-native-gpu-memory-buffers --use-gl=desktop, also added option to change it to egl, and it needs to be enabled manually15:04
le0nklcppby default it is not applied15:05
freemangordonare you sure it is 'gles'?15:07
freemangordonand not gles2?15:07
freemangordonalso, I think it shall use HW accel by default15:07
freemangordonhmm, it seems to be gles15:09
freemangordonor not?15:10
freemangordonle0nklcpp: QTWEBENGINE_CHROMIUM_FLAGS="--enable-logging --log-level=0 -v=1" /usr/bin/falkon15:12
freemangordonyou can play from the shell, instead of recompile to test15:12
arno11Wizzup_: sicelo: now i'm able to use stock asound.state.leste with calls. Sound and mixing work great :)15:15
arno11able to use jack headphone15:15
arno11only earphone is still not working15:16
arno11probably a tricky mixer setting needed15:16
arno11if we find the trick we are ready for UCM15:19
Wizzup_great!!!15:22
Wizzup_are you asking in general about earphone (earpiece) audio output?15:22
Wizzup_on n90015:22
Wizzup_or call specific15:23
le0nklcppfreemangordon: gles2_cmd_decoder.cc GL_OES_packed_depth_stencil_supported15:24
arno11Wizzup: i'm asking in general. i found no way to get sound with earpeace15:26
Wizzup_ok, so if I can make music play on earpiece, that is helpful?15:27
arno11yes sure :)15:27
Wizzup_I have that somewhere for 7-8 years ago when I ran gentoo on my n900 I think15:27
Wizzup_from 7-8*15:27
arno11oh nice !15:28
arno11Wizzup_: i've to go ttyl15:31
freemangordonle0nklcpp: I think it uses GPU by default15:38
freemangordonI see no difference between qtwebbrowser and falcon when opening a pretty heavy news site15:40
le0nklcppfremangordon: I guess you are running it not on N900?15:50
freemangordonon d415:50
freemangordonbut it should be the same15:50
freemangordonboth use the same GPU driver stack15:50
freemangordonand same kernel15:50
freemangordonsgx530 vs sgx540 (iirc)15:51
le0nklcppthat's right, but on N900 it uses SWAP, that's an issue15:51
freemangordonwell, I don;t think we have any chance running any modern browser on n900 given the state websites are nowadays15:51
bencohtrue15:56
buZzthey run though :D16:02
buZzjust, slowly16:02
le0nklcppit is still possible with enough patience and if it is really needed16:03
buZzhttps://github.com/fathyb/carbonyl <- this browser is so cool16:03
buZzchromium modded to get textmode output only16:03
le0nklcppsounds interesting, why I never heard of it16:05
bencohhmm, I'll have to give it a look16:07
siceloi think N900 users have accepted that browsing is now no-go16:09
sicelostill a lot of other fun uses besides browsing though16:09
buZzle0nklcpp: its pretty new16:14
le0nklcppbuZz: it is also html2svg to convert web pages after rendering through electron, not what I expected, still nice17:33
buZzle0nklcpp: thats a different browser, but indeed related17:59
buZzthere's no electron involved in carbonyl17:59
le0nklcppwith adblock disabled falkon seems to act better on N90018:50
bencohis it really usable?18:54
dsc_im still working on my browser19:04
dsc_it will be a simple one, for example no tabs19:05
dsc_but hope I can hack password managemnt into it19:06
dsc_if it doesnt take an unreasonable amount of time, that is19:06
le0nklcppit does, couple of minutes on wikipedia page19:09
le0nklcppThe more choice the better19:19
buZzle0nklcpp: how are the touch controls of falkon?20:04
buZzoh n900 so no multitouch i guess20:05
le0nklcppbrowser scrolling works fine, context menu, right click simulation and other gestures soon20:23
maemish_On telegram one new member of maemo forum have started to be really active with symbian users group but also with linux on mobile group. He knows how things work and is very helpful there but there are lots of people who are buying N900s and some are not familiar with everything how things work. So more detailed instructions could be helpfull if more people are gonna try Leste.21:16
Wizzup_maemish: hm, which telegram is this22:17

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