| sicelo | will test | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| arno11 | ok | 00:01 |
| sicelo | I'm not sure it will show up in alsactl monitor though, but it might ... | 00:01 |
| arno11 | ok | 00:02 |
| sicelo | yes doesn't show up | 00:17 |
| Wizzup_ | ah right\ | 00:18 |
| arno11 | ok and is there any issue with mixers ? | 00:22 |
| Wizzup_ | good q | 00:32 |
| * Wizzup_ needs to sleep | 00:32 | |
| arno11 | gn | 00:32 |
| Wizzup_ | exciting progress man :) | 00:33 |
| sicelo | not sure i understand the question ... | 00:33 |
| sicelo | seems fmtx not working .. will try to test properly tomorrow (also sleepy now) | 00:34 |
| sicelo | anyway, getting voicecalls integrated ootb is higher priority than fmtx imo | 00:34 |
| pere | <URL: https://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/What_did_I_learn_from_OpenSnitch_this_summer_.html > | 08:23 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: sicelo: fmtx works great with ucm :) | 11:36 |
| arno11 | it will be very easy to create a specific use case | 11:37 |
| arno11 | no troubles with mixers | 11:37 |
| arno11 | enabling fmtx through alsamixer is needed because i disabled it in ucm lol | 11:38 |
| sicelo | ah yes | 11:38 |
| Wizzup | right | 11:39 |
| arno11 | so this evening i will create a specific use case in HiFi profile or another one if you want | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | do we need to make a special use case for it, like we have HiFi and then we have FM Radio Transmitter, or do we want to combine it somehow? | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | right... I am wondering about this | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | I don't think we need speakers + radio ever | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | in this case I think profile in Hi Fi makes the most sense, I don't think we need or want to route audio calls over radio? | 11:40 |
| buZz | lol that would be special | 11:40 |
| arno11 | good question | 11:40 |
| buZz | using FMTX as a handsfree setup | 11:40 |
| Wizzup | arno11: sicelo: do we still need other tools to router over radio, or is it just a matter of alsa controls now? | 11:40 |
| buZz | i dont think thats been done before | 11:40 |
| arno11 | could be very funny | 11:40 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: just a matter of alsa controls | 11:41 |
| buZz | and maybe not very hard to implement, could get leste some media attention :) | 11:41 |
| arno11 | :) | 11:41 |
| sicelo | it can be done. the fmtx is essentially a built in Ralph one | 11:41 |
| sicelo | earphone* | 11:41 |
| Wizzup | arno11: I guess the v4l tooling is for it then is to change channel? | 11:41 |
| arno11 | yep | 11:41 |
| sicelo | yes you need v4l | 11:42 |
| Wizzup | arno11: buZz: might be difficult for echo cancel though | 11:42 |
| buZz | ah true | 11:42 |
| sicelo | even to enable transmission | 11:42 |
| arno11 | not sure | 11:42 |
| buZz | unless the modem can do that by itself | 11:42 |
| Wizzup | it cannot | 11:42 |
| buZz | ah | 11:42 |
| arno11 | mixers already cancel echo with right settings | 11:43 |
| Wizzup | arno11: which settings are those? | 11:43 |
| Wizzup | as far as I know n900 modem cannot do echo cancel | 11:43 |
| sicelo | yeah, even the audio is processed by cpu | 11:44 |
| Wizzup | we can do it in PA when we run into it though | 11:44 |
| arno11 | i don't remember what are the key settings | 11:45 |
| arno11 | let me 15 min i will try voice call through fmtx by hand | 11:45 |
| arno11 | to see wgo | 11:46 |
| Wizzup | be ready to mute :P | 11:46 |
| arno11 | lol ok | 11:46 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: hey ho | 11:54 |
| arno11 | believe me or not, it works well with absolutely no echo | 11:59 |
| arno11 | i used voice call profile, selecting manually jack output in pavucontrol to route sound through fmtx | 12:00 |
| arno11 | and of course enabling fmtx in alsamixer | 12:01 |
| arno11 | so it means we can create a hifi fmtx use case and another one with voice call | 12:02 |
| arno11 | oh i forgot we need to start v4l2 ctl of course | 12:03 |
| sicelo | :-p | 12:05 |
| Wizzup | 'start v4l2 ctl' ? | 12:05 |
| sicelo | yup, you can only enable the transmission via v4l | 12:06 |
| Wizzup | right | 12:06 |
| arno11 | is it possible to run xterm command in ucm profile ? | 12:07 |
| Wizzup | I don't think so, this needs to be arranged from another place | 12:09 |
| arno11 | ok makes sense | 12:09 |
| sicelo | honestly i don't think fmtx for calls is something we should worry about too much :-) | 12:09 |
| Wizzup | I agree | 12:09 |
| sicelo | remember that anyone in vicinity can get that call ... and you won't even know | 12:10 |
| Wizzup | with pipewire this would get easier eventually | 12:10 |
| arno11 | lol of course just for fun | 12:10 |
| sicelo | :-) | 12:10 |
| arno11 | so forgetting funny calls, hifi fmtx use case is easy to config but how to use v4l2 in a user-friendly way ? | 12:20 |
| Wizzup | this is problematic and not trivial, I would skip over that for now | 12:23 |
| Wizzup | like, pulseaudio cannot do it I think, alsa cannot do it, some PA plugin could, or some other program could listen to events and do it, but we currently don't have such a program | 12:23 |
| Wizzup | fremantle and nemo had OHM to do some of this, but we don't have that currently | 12:24 |
| Wizzup | I would leave this to some status applet for radio for now | 12:24 |
| Wizzup | does it hurt pm to just have fmtx routing on in alsa? | 12:24 |
| Wizzup | actually no need for that, the status applet can just switch | 12:24 |
| Wizzup | pipewire would eventually make this a bit easier I think | 12:25 |
| arno11 | ok | 12:26 |
| arno11 | i'll test pm with fmtx | 12:26 |
| arno11 | indeed a status applet is enough in fact | 12:29 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup, hallo! | 12:29 |
| rafael2k | finished my relocation... back to life | 12:29 |
| rafael2k | : ) | 12:29 |
| Wizzup | arno11: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/40 | 12:29 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: same for me :) | 12:29 |
| Wizzup | well, still no kitchen, but yeah... | 12:29 |
| rafael2k | I already have washing machine and vacuum cleaner... all good | 12:30 |
| rafael2k | : ) | 12:30 |
| Wizzup | arno11: the code linked doesn't use v4l of course, but it could be used as a staert | 12:30 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: same here... | 12:30 |
| rafael2k | most of my stuff is on the way crossing the old continent, including the PP | 12:31 |
| rafael2k | should arrive soon thou | 12:31 |
| Wizzup | my pallet of stuff comes tomorrow :) | 12:31 |
| Wizzup | 2 m^3 | 12:31 |
| rafael2k | 8 m^3 | 12:31 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: (for v4l) ok nice ! | 12:32 |
| buZz | Wizzup: holy, 2m³ of droid4? :D | 12:32 |
| Wizzup | no, my stuff... :) | 12:32 |
| buZz | oooo | 12:32 |
| buZz | ;) | 12:32 |
| sicelo | the fmtx applet *should* be using v4l somewhere, i think | 12:55 |
| sicelo | or it was doing raw i2c to the chip? O.o | 12:59 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: it uses dbus | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | so maybe there was another abstraction | 13:00 |
| Wizzup | #define FMTX_SERVICE "com.nokia.FMTx" | 13:01 |
| Wizzup | yeah | 13:01 |
| sicelo | is it a known issue that modem sometimes doesn't go online automatically on n900? | 13:17 |
| arno11 | sicelo: i think it is better to disable modem on boot ATM and load it from hildon desktop (see voice call email) to avoid crash | 13:40 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: apparently these is a kernel issue | 13:48 |
| Wizzup | there* | 13:48 |
| maxwelld | rafael2k, congrats. | 13:59 |
| maxwelld | oh, same for Wizzup. just it passed through my mind to congrat rafael because i guessed he managed to flew the evil empire that wants to kill him. | 14:01 |
| rafael2k | ehehehe | 14:03 |
| rafael2k | indeed | 14:03 |
| rafael2k | building radars is not my specialty yet | 14:03 |
| rafael2k | with a good battery we could create a jamming add-on to put in the tray - some options like "disable GPS" or "disable StarLink"... :P | 14:04 |
| maxwelld | i guess u didnt end up in armenia. otherwise we could meet. | 14:05 |
| maxwelld | are you talking about n900 transmitter? | 14:06 |
| rafael2k | ended up in the old metropolis... PT | 14:06 |
| maxwelld | oh. | 14:06 |
| rafael2k | or a simple circuitry with just creates noisy.. it would be easier | 14:06 |
| rafael2k | (controlled by some I/O from the phone) | 14:07 |
| rafael2k | but FMTx++ | 14:07 |
| maxwelld | i tried to use n900's transmitter to transmit on the same frequencies as radio stations and interfere at leas the nearby fm radio but i could not. | 14:07 |
| rafael2k | needs more power | 14:07 |
| maxwelld | the signal from radio was too strong for n900 to interfere. | 14:07 |
| rafael2k | could be done... a small amplifier | 14:07 |
| Wizzup | the chip is purposely not powerful | 14:07 |
| Wizzup | transmitting too powerfully is illegal | 14:08 |
| Wizzup | that said you can boost it a bit | 14:08 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: in the eu then? | 14:08 |
| maxwelld | wizz, my inderstanding he didnt flew | 14:08 |
| maxwelld | just changed the city | 14:08 |
| Wizzup | ah ok, for me PT is portugal :) | 14:09 |
| maxwelld | heh. | 14:10 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup, yes! | 14:20 |
| rafael2k | portugal, yes | 14:20 |
| rafael2k | btw, how is the support for the Pi (with its 7'' screen)? | 14:22 |
| rafael2k | (arm64, Pi4) | 14:22 |
| maxwelld | oh great! | 14:25 |
| Wizzup | rafael2k: is this some standard pi screen? | 14:27 |
| Wizzup | I have demoed leste on some usb/hdmi screens before using a pi | 14:27 |
| Wizzup | but I don't recall if 3d was working or not | 14:27 |
| rafael2k | Wizzup, yes, connected in the DSI adapter | 14:27 |
| rafael2k | maxwelld, : ) | 14:27 |
| rafael2k | thinking about placing maemo in the radio we are using: https://www.hfsignals.com/index.php/sbitx-v2/ so the user and switch to another sdr software and so on | 14:29 |
| Wizzup | cute :) | 14:30 |
| Wizzup | doesn't seem like a bad idea to me :p | 14:30 |
| rafael2k | : )) | 14:33 |
| Wizzup | I also have two of the lime2 (and soon also hopefully a64) metal frame tablets from olimexh ere | 14:38 |
| maxwelld | heh, since here are HAM radio enthusiasts, i tried for second time to beatmatch and harmonically mix SSTV images to my sets: https://toobnix.org/w/943sb8rzfx5Rj1qFdrrh5v | 14:39 |
| maxwelld | i don't understand much in HAM radio equipment, alas, but i am able to see distorted images with phone or linux sstv client software. | 14:40 |
| maxwelld | in the future, and when i have money, i'd like to get some ham radio equipment, just i have no idea what do i want now. | 14:41 |
| boshtannik | Hi to all. @freemangordon. Explain me please, of you can, the source of restriction of not being able to compile and run KIVY with using window provider such as sdl2, or gl, via the method, you have tried, during your compilation. | 16:19 |
| boshtannik | I know, you much closer to that things, such as graphics, i expect you know much more than me in this topic. | 16:20 |
| rafael2k | maxwelld, if you want HF, use this: https://www.hfsignals.com/index.php/sbitx-v2/ | 16:39 |
| rafael2k | with the bonus you could run Maemo in the radio! | 16:40 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: sicelo: i found why pcm volume is locked at 44. I need to add a BootSequence in ucm conf to solve the issue. | 16:41 |
| sicelo | oh great :-) | 16:41 |
| arno11 | and it is possible to execute shell scripts in UCM ! | 16:41 |
| dsc_ | rafael2k: what do you reckon that GUI interface is made in? | 16:42 |
| rafael2k | dsc_, which one? | 16:42 |
| dsc_ | oh nvm it actually mentions in the blogpost itself | 16:42 |
| arno11 | sicelo: I'll do some test this night and let you know | 16:43 |
| rafael2k | gtk + cairo | 16:43 |
| Wizzup | arno11: cool, got a link (re: shell scripts) | 16:43 |
| arno11 | https://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/group__ucm__conf.html | 16:45 |
| arno11 | substituted string | 16:46 |
| arno11 | sorry 'Sequences commands' | 16:46 |
| arno11 | exec ARG | 16:47 |
| Wizzup | arno11: great, that's super | 16:48 |
| arno11 | yes :) | 16:49 |
| sicelo | mmm, how to build sphone properly? | 20:41 |
| sicelo | regular `dpkg-buildpackage -b uc` shows a lot of dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: debian/sphone/usr/lib/sphone/modules/libui-history-calls-gtk.so contains an unresolvable reference to symbol gui_register: it's probably a plugin | 20:42 |
| sicelo | dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: 8 other similar warnings have been skipped (use -v to see them all) | 20:42 |
| sicelo | and the resulting binary segfaults | 20:42 |
| Wizzup | is that the binary after you installed it? | 20:50 |
| sicelo | the dpkg-shlibdeps warnings are during build | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | the segfault | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | it has some funnyness when it comes to reading the config which contains the plugins | 20:50 |
| sicelo | yes, after installing and running it | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | which branch/tag? | 20:51 |
| sicelo | master | 20:52 |
| sicelo | i want to make sphone not force portrait for calls. problem now is that even before making any changes, the build is misbehaving :p | 20:58 |
| Wizzup | hmm | 20:58 |
| sicelo | unfortunately i can't find jenkins build log for some reason. wanted to compare its output with mine | 21:02 |
| sicelo | only has https://phoenix.maemo.org/job/sphone-binaries/59/consoleText ... | 21:03 |
| arno11 | sicelo: i still have the sphone modified package and modified source code if you want to save time | 23:03 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: sicelo: the pcm volume issue is fixed | 23:04 |
| Wizzup | great | 23:05 |
| arno11 | now pcm volume is 100 and volume applet is working well (linked to master volume | 23:05 |
| Wizzup | want to PR against leste-config for a new version? or just email me a new version | 23:05 |
| Wizzup | arno11: cool, so the buttons work too? | 23:05 |
| arno11 | not sure let me try | 23:06 |
| arno11 | nope still not working | 23:06 |
| Wizzup | hm, hang on | 23:07 |
| Wizzup | ok | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | uvos changed it from XK_F7 to XF86XK_AudioLowerVolume | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | so F7 and F8 no longer works | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | it's a sensible change but the n900 unfortunately has those buttons as F7 and F8 | 23:08 |
| arno11 | oh ok | 23:09 |
| Wizzup | we could catch both those XF86XK_Audio*Volume and F7/F8 | 23:09 |
| Wizzup | or somehow change n900 dts (which won't be upstream) | 23:09 |
| Wizzup | it was changed in ce5673e8f306cd209876fb6862edc8793515eb69 of https://github.com/maemo-leste/maemo-statusmenu-volume/ | 23:10 |
| Wizzup | so probably it just works :) | 23:10 |
| Wizzup | (when we fix the keys) | 23:10 |
| arno11 | ok :) | 23:10 |
| sicelo | arno11: what changes did you make in sphone? | 23:29 |
| Wizzup | I think all you have to do is find the hildon properly that force portait and make it force landscape | 23:30 |
| Wizzup | or just the default | 23:30 |
| sicelo | yes, https://paste.debian.net/1282684/ | 23:30 |
| sicelo | this is the change i wanted to test, but no idea why the build doesn't work | 23:31 |
| sicelo | if you change the N900 dts, i'm sure it'd be upstreamable | 23:33 |
| arno11 | sicelo: i did what Wizzup said | 23:33 |
| sicelo | ok. which i suppose is what i did in that paste? | 23:35 |
| sicelo | how did you build yours? or, what am i doing wrong with the building :-/ | 23:35 |
| arno11 | let me check | 23:35 |
| arno11 | i don't remember any weid error | 23:36 |
| sicelo | or maybe issue is in vm? (i was building there ... will build on n900 tomorrow and see what happens) | 23:37 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: afaik upstream does not accept these kind of dts changes | 23:39 |
| arno11 | ah ok | 23:39 |
| Wizzup | I am not sure, but jfyi | 23:40 |
| arno11 | it works directly in n900 | 23:40 |
| arno11 | using dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us | 23:40 |
| sicelo | they can accept them, if explanation is clear :-) | 23:47 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: got a source? :) | 23:48 |
| sicelo | "these kind" means? | 23:49 |
| sicelo | otherwise i've made some dts changes for N900 that were accepted without any friction | 23:49 |
| Wizzup | I suggested once to tmlind to change a key on the d4 keyboard and he said that it's kind of fixed | 23:50 |
| sicelo | i remember that | 23:50 |
| Wizzup | maybe it doesn't apply to the volume buttons on the n900 | 23:50 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: i sent you an email with pcm volume fix (just need to replace RX-51.conf by the new one) | 23:56 |
| sicelo | fwiw, at least in my vm, placing a call (via commtest backend) also breaks display ... quite same as on n900 | 23:56 |
| sicelo | of course that's just a test endpoint, but still ... having option to keep the window landscape if necessary makes a lot of sense | 23:57 |
| sicelo | arno11: may i get it too? | 23:58 |
| arno11 | sure | 23:59 |
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