libera/#maemo-leste/ Saturday, 2023-10-14

uvosthe backend button should def not go into settings imo00:24
uvosits maybe sligtly missnamed00:24
uvosit really means potocoll, and the hope is that you will eventually be able to choose gsm/voip/skype/telegram/etc here to place your call00:25
uvossettings is, imo, to to rigid for something that is expected to possibly vary with every call00:25
uvosalso there is sufficent room00:27
uvosthere is no need to get rid of anything00:27
uvosso i would do this:00:28
uvos========== <00:30
uvos============= < |  1  |  2  | 300:30
uvoscontacts        |  4  |  5  | 600:30
uvosrecent          |  7  |  8  | 900:30
uvoscall     cancle |  *  |  0  | #00:30
uvosor maybe flipped00:31
uvos|  1  |  2  | 3 | ============= <00:31
uvos|  4  |  5  | 6 | contacts00:31
uvos|  7  |  8  | 9 | recent00:31
uvos|  *  |  0  | # | call     cancle00:31
uvossince call and contacts are going to be the most used buttons, and should be closest to the thumb00:32
Wizzupyes, backend should not be in settings04:22
Wizzupwith tp we'll have many backends04:45
Wizzupuvos__: do you think it's worth adding the mz617 hacks to our experimental or devel kernel?04:45
uvos__Wizzup: thatswhz i08:08
uvos__upps08:08
uvos__Wizzup: thats why i rebased the kernel on 6.608:08
uvos__but its currently no use untill the omap-dai is fixed08:09
Wizzupok08:18
nelasomeone was tracking down the IR TX issue on N900 and found the timing issues, did we ever get to the end of it?09:05
nelaalso I now acquired a second worse condition device for debugging purposes and I will solder a UART header to it shortly09:06
freemangordonnela: see https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-media/patch/1696501739-29861-1-git-send-email-ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com/ and https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-media/patch/1560b474f7d426bc77100665c14c3a29c3af3e75.1697193646.git.sean@mess.org/09:26
Guest224dear developers Leste wiki has error at PP: Keyboard, Yes, When a PP keyboard is connected, it works out-of-the-box10:30
Guest224it should be this way: Keyboard, WIP, When a PP keyboard is connected, all exept third level of first row10:32
Guest224It had not be working right way in any stable version.10:33
Guest224you find problem quite fast when writing with PP keyboard: setxkbmap -query | grep model10:35
Guest224solution is in that link I put yesterday, but it should merge to next version of Leste.10:40
Guest224or is it coming in next version already?10:42
uvosfreemangordon: sure that fixes the issue with ir-tx16:40
uvosbut is the underlying issue of the delay taking longer than expected still there16:40
uvosif so i suspect it might be the cause for bluetooth audio being semi-broken on d416:41
uvos(it faces fairly constant ~100ms clicks where something is unable to keep the stream going, even when pm states are disabled)16:42
uvosus16:42
siceloarno11 ... i did test the transitions.ini. all is well indeed. just one nitpick - when in the application list, not blanking/dimming the wallpaper makes things seem confusing/cluttered19:13
arno11sicelo: yes, need a bit of work for this19:13
arno11sicelo: i have another transitions.ini file wich is faster (but still the confusing app list)19:15
arno11*btw19:15
arno11uvos: sicelo: https://ibb.co/MpBhkRR19:16
arno11this is the best result i have ATM19:16
arno11still using hbox (vbox is tricky to use with the keypad)19:17
arno11but user friendly even with big fingers IMO19:18
sicelothis looks good! i think you can bring Recent to the bottom as well, and have three buttons on that bottom row19:18
sicelobut i don't see 'Cancel' ;p19:18
arno11i removed it lol19:19
arno11but i can add it again19:19
arno11(if uvos is hangry)19:20
siceloi don't think it'll be approved :p19:20
arno11*angry19:20
arno11yes indeed :p19:20
arno11maybe i can add 'recent' at the bottom row and add 'cancel' on the top one ?19:22
arno11*instead of 'recent'19:22
siceloi'm quite sure they want Cancel to be at the bottom ... presumably to close the application easily, even in portrait mode19:31
arno11ok19:33
uvospretty mutch exactly correct19:34
arno11so call, contacts, cancel19:34
uvosi also really dont like this layout for another reason: its too different to the portrait one19:34
uvosthe relative possitioning of buttons should stay the as mutch the same as possible19:34
uvosto avoid too mutch user suprise19:34
arno11agreed but dealing with vbox columns is tricky19:35
arno11*with the keypad19:35
uvoshmm19:36
uvosthe keypad is one widget anyhow19:36
uvosso just have a everything in a vbox inside a hbox that contains just the vbox in portait19:36
uvosand remove the keypad from the vbox and add it to the hbox where the vbox is also in when switching to landscape19:37
uvosor rather when switching to a window that too small for the portrait layout19:37
arno11vbox inside a hbox is what i'm trying to use ATM with no success19:39
arno11question of time :p19:39
uvosok, not sure what issues would crop up there19:39
uvosbut its been a whlile since i wrote a gtk2 ui layout19:39
uvosoh btw19:44
uvosi would recommend "scrot" to take screenshots over ssh19:44
uvosmutch less work than makeing  a photo19:44
arno11thx for the tip19:51
arno11question of POV but i think the last example is not so different from the portrait mode: in every cases we have to add buttons on the right/left/bottom/top anyway20:15
freemangordonuvos: yes, and unfortunately I have no idea what the reason could be. However, seems to be process priority/scheduler related, like, on omap4 with proper priority latency is low. Keep in mind the shortest measurable period is ~30us, because system timer is running @ 32kHz, so maybe scheduler has no option when we have 3-4 high-priority tasks but to delay each task re-activation with couple of 30us periods21:20
uvosfreemangordon: if you think its related to scheduler behavior maybe we should try a different one than cfs, like pds or bmq or the like, those are mostly more optimized for interactive systems anyhow22:05
freemangordonuvos: if you give me some hints I can try22:32
freemangordonbut yeah, seems scheduler related22:33

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