libera/#maemo-leste/ Saturday, 2023-11-18

ac_laptopmy n900 went off at about 17:50 and I don't know why00:39
ac_laptopbattery is still at 75%00:40
ac_laptopI'm going to upload syslog00:41
ac_laptopif anyone's reading00:42
ac_laptophere it is00:42
ac_laptophttps://paste.debian.net/1298443/00:42
ac_laptopfrom boot to shutdown00:43
ac_laptopis there any settings on the default setup that makes it shut down after a while ?00:46
Wizzupit would be interesting to know the voltage of the battery at that point00:50
ac_laptopWizzup: is there a log file for the battery ?00:52
Wizzupupower might have some data in it's history file00:53
Wizzupnot sure how easy it is to pull out00:56
WizzupI had a script for it...00:56
ac_laptopWizzup: https://paste.debian.net/1298444/00:57
ac_laptop↑↑↑ here I'm only giving you the *-8.dat files, whose last access date is 2023-11-17 17:4701:02
ac_laptopbut I don't know how to interpret the values, maybe you need the most recent files01:03
ac_laptopbecause if I open the recent /var/lib/upower/history-charge-7.dat01:03
ac_laptopthe last lines look like01:04
ac_laptop1700089729      45.000  discharging01:04
ac_laptop1700090455      6.000   discharging01:04
ac_laptop1700264174      0.000   unknown01:04
ac_laptop1700264175      75.000  discharging01:04
ac_laptop1700264295      74.000  discharging01:04
ac_laptop1700264535      73.000  discharging01:04
ac_laptop1700264776      72.000  discharging01:04
ac_laptop1700265139      71.000  discharging01:04
ac_laptop75% is the battery level I had when booting again few minutes ago01:04
Wizzupso it looks like it dropped very radidly01:05
Wizzupright?01:06
ac_laptopWizzup: maybe the system believed that the battery dropped very rapidly, but it didn't. I booted and it was at 75%01:10
Wizzupodd01:13
ac_laptoplooks like there is something though, given what I had yesterday morning, with the device off, booting on leste -> battery at 0%, booting on fremantle -> battery at 99%01:15
ac_laptopI will try to let the device idle under fremantle for a few hours, to see if this is hardware-related or specific to leste01:17
ac_laptopif we look at what happened in the morning it's like a sudden drop01:20
ac_laptopNov 17 07:38:03  1700203083 22.000 discharging01:20
ac_laptopNov 17 07:50:09  1700203809 21.000 discharging01:20
ac_laptopNov 17 08:04:16  1700204656 7.000 discharging01:20
arno11ac_laptop: i compared your battery log and mine and definitely something seems wrong with your battery(ies). it is supposed to discharge pourcent by pourcent. Unknown state seems related to battery removal or shutdown.10:18
arno11your syslog seems normal but it seems you have zram activated10:20
siceloyes. either the battery is a goner, or it isn't making very good contact with the connector. this is quite common actually, although in many cases, it causes device to die, i.e. not graceful shutdown.10:20
sicelothis can be somewhat remedied by carefully adjusting the contacts in the battery, taking care not to break them10:21
slephi, i'm using sdhc class 10 but the OS is still incredibly slow and unresponsive. i booted using the instructions on the wiki, with the pali u-boot. is this normal? i also ensured swap was activated17:57
siceloi have never used Fremantle while roaming. does it really not give some indication that you are? i know about the setting to allow or disallow gprs when roaming18:49
arno11slep: not a surprise: few things make first boots really difficult.19:07
arno11few tips:19:07
arno11wait at least 3-4 min once you see hildon-desktop screen before clicking somewhere19:08
arno11don't connect to wifi because apt- worker will start automatically in background letting n900 unresponsive for several minutes19:09
arno11be sure to expand root partition (a bit or totally)19:09
arno11normally, after 2 reboots, things are fine and you can distupgrade to devel19:10
arno11then you can tune N900 a bit to speed-up things (transitions.ini, overclock)19:13
slepthanks :) i will give this a go19:15
arno11you're welcome :)19:16
slepbtw, is leste currently somewhat usable as an alternative to the fremantle with cssu etc? i'm currently setting that up19:16
arno11with few tips, definitely (excepting for camera and bluetooth)19:17
slepi'm guessing camera is probably a difficult cause unfortunately :<19:18
arno11yep19:19
arno11sicelo: if calls are integrated before the end of the year, the big challenge for 2024 is camera :p19:38
arno11even only the front one could be enough (to get working video sip/xmpp calls)19:40
arno11sicelo: (for roaming) can't remember if there is any particular indication about it in Fremantle but iirc it shows the name of the roaming operator (when roaming ofc)19:50
arno11and with Leste it shows your current operator and the roaming one at the same time.19:51
arno11and sometimes only the roaming one19:52
siceloregarding camera ... both cameras shouldn't be too difficult to get going, but what i suspect could be difficult is the required processing ... i *think* in Fremantle, the dsp also took part, but we don't have it with mainline20:17
sicelofor roaming, i guess someday i can make icons that indicate roaming, then we can see what code is needed. ofono reports the state correctly20:18
arno11ok20:25
arno11and yes for dsp20:26
uvosreally no, roaming indication on fremantle!? i was sure this was a leste bug20:46
uvoswierdly signifcant oversight for nokia to make20:46
uvosyou def need the dsp to use the camera, debayering and color callibration is going to be very not fun if you do it on that poor cpu20:47
Wizzupuvos: I think you can enable/disable roaming in settings20:52
sicelono, you can only set gprs to work, or not work when roaming20:53
siceloactually even on N9, it's the same.20:53
Wizzuphm... but it has a data counter for both, and also a warning?20:54
siceloYes20:54
sicelogprs ... that's the keyword :-)20:54
WizzupI mean a warning for roaming20:54
Wizzupoh, hm20:54
Wizzupwait, what other than gprs?20:54
sicelobut for calls, there's no notification and/or warning20:54
Wizzupright20:55
siceloi think someday we should create roaming icons, and hook up ofono's Network status accordingly20:55
uvosthats honstly wild, what if you live in a border region20:55
uvossicelo: yeah def20:55

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