| Wizzup | great | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| Wizzup | would neon help somehow? | 00:03 |
| Wizzup | (maybe it is already) | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | maybe, but not in Xorg | 00:03 |
| freemangordon | afaik it already uses pixman | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | maybe we have some issue in GTK | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | because on n900 even in 16bpp scrolling in gtk apps is too slow | 00:04 |
| Wizzup | right | 00:05 |
| freemangordon | on n900 gears render with 20fps | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | even on 16bpp | 00:08 |
| Wizzup | but that comes from gpu right? | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | yes | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | however, those 20 fps are enough so scrolling in launcher to be nice | 00:15 |
| freemangordon | it is gtk apps that suffer from some issues | 00:16 |
| freemangordon | maybe NEON optimization I put there is not hit, dunno | 00:16 |
| freemangordon | what? github will require 2FA?!? | 00:17 |
| Wizzup | you can do sms | 00:25 |
| Wizzup | it's not for commits/push | 00:25 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but still | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | *shrug* | 00:27 |
| Wizzup | I use sms and forget about it mostly | 00:27 |
| freemangordon | this: https://github.com/maemo-leste/xf86-video-omap/commit/6a6a11ec81a3dd317361f265884f04cf3e9244ff | 00:28 |
| freemangordon | whoever wants to play with it | 00:28 |
| arno11 | pretty sure that transitions/zoom/animations is a big part of the problem with gtk. not normal that n900 runs so much faster with light transitions (specially with overclock) | 11:37 |
| freemangordon | arno11: I found an issue with BO cache | 11:40 |
| freemangordon | doing final tests and there will be new release | 11:40 |
| arno11 | ah ok :) | 11:40 |
| freemangordon | arno11: I don;t see any need for light transitions here | 12:13 |
| freemangordon | the only issue I see is slow scrolling in gtk apps | 12:14 |
| freemangordon | but I don;t think this is related to transitions.ini | 12:14 |
| freemangordon | unless I am missing something | 12:15 |
| freemangordon | also, scrolling in settings (for example) is slow even when compositing is disabled | 12:17 |
| freemangordon | so it is something with GTK, not related to h-d at all | 12:17 |
| uvos__ | i mean gtk2 scrolling is allways bad even on fremantle | 12:19 |
| uvos__ | its no where near the smoothness of eg android on simmular hw, since its sw rendered, | 12:19 |
| freemangordon | but not *that* bad | 12:20 |
| freemangordon | sodeffinitely we lack some optimizationf from fremantle | 12:20 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: actually, with the ddx I am about to release, it is pretty smooth on d4 | 12:21 |
| freemangordon | but is really bad on n900 | 12:22 |
| freemangordon | albeit better than ever before | 12:22 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: do you have any idea why would be HW compositing slower, even on d4? | 12:23 |
| uvos__ | i mean d4 has sufficant cpu to just brute force it to be mostly ok yeah | 12:25 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: no sorrz | 12:25 |
| uvos__ | *y | 12:25 |
| freemangordon | ok, but it is slower on n900 as well | 12:25 |
| freemangordon | few fps, but still | 12:26 |
| freemangordon | like, 5 or so & slower | 12:26 |
| freemangordon | % | 12:26 |
| freemangordon | anyway | 12:26 |
| freemangordon | new ddx is on its way | 12:26 |
| freemangordon | please upgrade and test | 12:26 |
| uvos__ | lower fps in what | 12:27 |
| freemangordon | everything | 12:27 |
| uvos__ | i mean it stands to reason that hw comp. dose more on sgx, so if the cpu would otherwise be idle sgx might have more time to do rendering | 12:27 |
| uvos__ | but im just guesing, i really dont know | 12:27 |
| freemangordon | ok | 12:28 |
| freemangordon | anyway, I think we now have DDX that is more or less ok | 12:28 |
| uvos__ | grea | 12:28 |
| uvos__ | t | 12:28 |
| uvos__ | i mean honestly it was fine on d4 before | 12:28 |
| uvos__ | performance wise | 12:28 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: maybe you can compare with 1.5 (or whatever the last omapofb one was) | 12:28 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: yeah n900 is different story | 12:29 |
| freemangordon | like, not scientifically | 12:29 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: (on my device, scrolling in settings is very fast when i disable compo) | 12:29 |
| uvos__ | but omapdf we cant really try anymore | 12:29 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 12:29 |
| uvos__ | since it needs really old kernel for sgx to work on fb | 12:29 |
| freemangordon | arno11: in 32bpp? | 12:29 |
| arno11 | 16 | 12:29 |
| freemangordon | well... | 12:30 |
| arno11 | but even 32 is ok | 12:30 |
| uvos__ | yeah i mean if you copy only have the data around | 12:30 |
| uvos__ | thats cheating | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | it is ok, but not good | 12:30 |
| uvos__ | *half | 12:30 |
| arno11 | let me try again | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: :nod: | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | arno11: please upgrade ddx first | 12:30 |
| freemangordon | or... | 12:31 |
| freemangordon | check before and after the upgrade | 12:31 |
| arno11 | ok let's go | 12:31 |
| arno11 | brb | 12:31 |
| freemangordon | I want another confirmation (or not) that the new ddx is better | 12:31 |
| arno11 | ok | 12:33 |
| Daanct12 | good morning everyone, haven't been here for a while | 12:37 |
| Daanct12 | anything changed since i last looked at it? | 12:37 |
| freemangordon | lots of things, do you want to know something in particular? | 12:38 |
| Wizzup | Daanct12: depends on when you last looked ;) | 12:42 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: well...things are a bit deroutant | 13:19 |
| arno11 | no change between 16 and 24/32 without new ddx in term of scrolling | 13:20 |
| arno11 | but again with light trans. | 13:20 |
| arno11 | so with light trans things are better in term of scrolling | 13:21 |
| arno11 | now the weird stuff | 13:21 |
| arno11 | with new ddx, everything is ok, absolutely no change for me in 24bpp | 13:21 |
| arno11 | (with light trans) | 13:22 |
| freemangordon | why weird? | 13:22 |
| arno11 | but in 16bpp, huge diff | 13:22 |
| freemangordon | like for good or? | 13:22 |
| arno11 | for good | 13:22 |
| freemangordon | yeah, because on 24bpp we are CPU bound | 13:22 |
| freemangordon | in 16bpp it is the same as it is in fremantle, with stock transitions | 13:23 |
| arno11 | the weird part arrives...lol | 13:24 |
| freemangordon | ? | 13:24 |
| arno11 | now i'm able to play ps1 games in windows mode without disabling compo | 13:24 |
| arno11 | full speed | 13:24 |
| freemangordon | :) | 13:25 |
| arno11 | that's cool but weird | 13:25 |
| freemangordon | why weird? | 13:25 |
| arno11 | es2gears is still slow with compo for example | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | because it is GPU bound | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | we can;t get anything more than lets say 20fps there | 13:26 |
| arno11 | ah yes indeed | 13:26 |
| arno11 | so ok nothing weird | 13:26 |
| freemangordon | BTW, do you have uSD with the old (and I mean old) drivers? | 13:27 |
| arno11 | and new ddx seems ok for n900 imo | 13:27 |
| freemangordon | like, 4.x kernel or something | 13:27 |
| arno11 | ah, not sure | 13:27 |
| arno11 | i have to check | 13:27 |
| freemangordon | with omapfb driver that is | 13:27 |
| freemangordon | it would be great if you can compare | 13:28 |
| arno11 | yes indeed | 13:28 |
| arno11 | i can try a bit later | 13:28 |
| freemangordon | to see if we are hitting the HW limits or it can be better | 13:28 |
| freemangordon | no hurry | 13:28 |
| arno11 | ok i see | 13:28 |
| arno11 | i'll check :) | 13:29 |
| freemangordon | another thing: | 13:29 |
| freemangordon | do you see rendering artifacts in conversations or in wheather application? | 13:29 |
| arno11 | let me check | 13:29 |
| arno11 | nope in weather and the app is faster | 13:30 |
| Wizzup | is this about ants? | 13:31 |
| freemangordon | no | 13:31 |
| freemangordon | I see fonts misrendered and some other drawing artifacts on d4 | 13:31 |
| Wizzup | isn't that the ants problem (fonts misrendered?) | 13:31 |
| freemangordon | not sure | 13:31 |
| Wizzup | I've been seeing for many months, probably a yeare | 13:31 |
| Wizzup | year* | 13:31 |
| arno11 | conversation is faster too and no artifacts | 13:31 |
| freemangordon | I am trying to see if I didn;t break something with so many optimizations :) | 13:32 |
| freemangordon | arno11: do you know which exactly transitions.ini change makes scrolling faster? | 13:32 |
| arno11 | good question, iirc it is when i disable zoom/animations | 13:33 |
| freemangordon | could you confirm? | 13:34 |
| arno11 | let me check | 13:34 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: hmm, that's weird | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | I have the feeling that rendering artifacts are somehow related to battery charge level | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | I left the device on charger for a while and now there are only some ants there | 13:36 |
| freemangordon | but fornts are rendered properly | 13:36 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: ^^^ | 13:36 |
| freemangordon | no, conversations are still bad | 13:37 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: sorry i need time to check all trans parameters | 13:43 |
| freemangordon | sure, no hurry | 13:44 |
| freemangordon | ok, whatever the issue with misrendering is, it is not in DDX | 13:45 |
| freemangordon | at least not in PVR EXA | 13:45 |
| Wizzup | yeah, it's been very hard to track down this ants problem | 13:46 |
| Wizzup | or however we want to call it :) | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | with Option"NoAccel""true" conversations still misrender fonts | 13:46 |
| freemangordon | so it is either blobs or kernel driver not flushing caches | 13:47 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: what was that register which was changing some GPU frequency parameter or something? | 13:48 |
| freemangordon | LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 /usr/bin/conversations 'fixes' it :) | 13:52 |
| uvos__ | yeah i mean for some reason textures are created with missing bits | 13:56 |
| uvos__ | so letting llvmpipe do it works ofc | 13:57 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: i dont know what you mean, the register to control the sgx core clock was 0x4A008164 | 13:57 |
| freemangordon | right | 13:57 |
| freemangordon | that one | 13:57 |
| freemangordon | do you have the commands around? | 13:57 |
| uvos__ | omapconf write 0x4A008164 $VALUE | 13:58 |
| uvos__ | its a devider so increasing the value lowers the clock | 13:58 |
| uvos__ | iirc | 13:58 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: uvos: could you please create /etc/powervr.ini with content: | 14:23 |
| freemangordon | [default] | 14:23 |
| freemangordon | DisableHWTQTextureUpload=1 | 14:23 |
| freemangordon | to check if that fixes the ants and misrendering? | 14:23 |
| freemangordon | heh, I think that was it :) | 14:31 |
| tmlind | cool so not a battery power level issue? | 14:32 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: wow, let me try now | 14:33 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: hard to say yet, lets confirm it | 14:35 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: ok i'll enable it too later on today :) | 14:35 |
| freemangordon | so far 5 reboots in a row, no ants in either h-d or conversations | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | or anywhere in that regard | 14:36 |
| freemangordon | but my battery is fully charged :) | 14:36 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: how did you figure this out | 14:39 |
| Wizzup | this is probably the best improvement in a long time | 14:39 |
| freemangordon | well... intuition | 14:39 |
| freemangordon | does it work for you? | 14:39 |
| Wizzup | yes | 14:39 |
| freemangordon | great | 14:40 |
| freemangordon | please someone to add powervr.ini to omap4 devices with sgx config | 14:41 |
| freemangordon | arno11: sicelo: no ants on n900, right? | 14:42 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: indeed, no ants | 15:04 |
| arno11 | and i switched to original transitions to check, and no diff with scrolling (still good in settings) but h-d is def. slower with all animations | 15:05 |
| arno11 | so for the scrolling there is something in my config which improves things | 15:06 |
| freemangordon | ok, please find what it is | 15:06 |
| arno11 | yep | 15:06 |
| arno11 | no idea atm lol | 15:07 |
| freemangordon | heh | 15:07 |
| freemangordon | could you shot a video of scrolling in settings, so I can compare with mine? | 15:07 |
| freemangordon | not ow, but when you have some time | 15:07 |
| freemangordon | *now | 15:07 |
| freemangordon | maybe overclocking? | 15:08 |
| freemangordon | my device runs on stock speeds | 15:09 |
| freemangordon | and given it is CPU bound... | 15:09 |
| freemangordon | BTW, what stops those changes from entering the repos? | 15:09 |
| freemangordon | 720/805 that is | 15:09 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: any idea? ^^^ | 15:10 |
| arno11 | there is no build with that change with 6.1.48 | 15:10 |
| freemangordon | ok, but why? is ther any issue? | 15:11 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: a bit slower on my device at 600MHz | 15:11 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: what settings? transtitions.ini? we dont want to disable all the bling with no knowlage of what helps, its very shotgun aproche | 15:11 |
| freemangordon | umm... | 15:11 |
| uvos__ | hmm? | 15:12 |
| freemangordon | I am against changing transitions.ini :) | 15:12 |
| uvos__ | right | 15:12 |
| arno11 | fmg was talking about boost freq | 15:12 |
| freemangordon | right | 15:12 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: what changes from entering the repo? | 15:12 |
| uvos__ | oh the kernel patch? | 15:12 |
| freemangordon | yes | 15:12 |
| uvos__ | its in the repo | 15:12 |
| Wizzup | the over clock? | 15:12 |
| arno11 | yep | 15:12 |
| freemangordon | which repo? | 15:12 |
| arno11 | ? | 15:12 |
| freemangordon | my n900 is on -devel and there are no boost freqs | 15:12 |
| arno11 | me too | 15:12 |
| uvos__ | i just never released a new kernel, since i was sure 6.6 was about to happen | 15:12 |
| freemangordon | ah :) | 15:13 |
| uvos__ | but then there where additional issues | 15:13 |
| freemangordon | with 6.6 I guess | 15:13 |
| uvos__ | yes | 15:13 |
| uvos__ | so if you want you can just rebuild the kernel | 15:13 |
| freemangordon | yes, please | 15:13 |
| freemangordon | me? | 15:13 |
| uvos__ | sure | 15:13 |
| freemangordon | it was a while I did that | 15:13 |
| uvos__ | it works, i ran it on my device a while | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | could you do it for me? | 15:14 |
| uvos__ | you just need to change the changelog | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | heh, ok | 15:14 |
| uvos__ | sure but then you will need to wait untill im at home | 15:14 |
| uvos__ | (2 days) | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | well... | 15:14 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: or just create a uimage | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | we can wait for 2 more days I guess | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | I can do it as well if I find spare time for it | 15:14 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: so, everything is pushed on github? | 15:15 |
| uvos__ | freemangordon: yes | 15:15 |
| freemangordon | ok | 15:16 |
| uvos__ | you need to give this a tag https://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/tree/maemo-6.1.y | 15:16 |
| freemangordon | right | 15:16 |
| uvos__ | and update ttps://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/blob/maemo/chimaera-devel/debian/changelog | 15:16 |
| uvos__ | and kick ci | 15:16 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 15:16 |
| freemangordon | thanks | 15:16 |
| freemangordon | how to make WtWebbrowser fullscreen? | 15:29 |
| freemangordon | QtWebbrowser that is | 15:30 |
| uvos__ | i dont think you can | 15:40 |
| freemangordon | hmm, FF seems to use GPU to render | 15:42 |
| Wizzup | you can disable this if you wish | 15:43 |
| freemangordon | right, but I was surprised it even works on SGX | 15:43 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 15:44 |
| Wizzup | so I've been using sphone+tp module, voicecall and conversations for a few days on my d4 and it's mostly fine | 15:44 |
| Wizzup | a few things remain to be done (mostly improved notifications and mapping remote_uid to remote_name using abook) | 15:45 |
| Wizzup | but for sms and calls it seems fine | 15:45 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: shall I add a powervr.ini (or powervr.d entry maybe) to leste-config for mapphone and n900 ? | 15:45 |
| freemangordon | for n900 it is not needed | 15:45 |
| Wizzup | interesting | 15:46 |
| Wizzup | ok | 15:46 |
| freemangordon | only for mapphone | 15:46 |
| freemangordon | well, maybe sgx in n900 does not have that buggy HW :) | 15:46 |
| Wizzup | I see | 15:46 |
| freemangordon | ok, I am impressed with how FF performs on d4 | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | the only thing that's slow is YT playback | 15:52 |
| freemangordon | but I guess it is because it uses gst :) | 15:52 |
| Wizzup | and gst is without xv? | 15:56 |
| freemangordon | does not matter | 15:59 |
| freemangordon | its decoding is slow | 16:00 |
| freemangordon | the same clip that runs with 25 fps on n900 through mplayer (and xv) runs with .5 fps through gst (and xv) :) | 16:01 |
| * freemangordon feels excited for finally killing all the ants around | 16:02 | |
| uvos__ | poor ants :( | 16:12 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: does choosing IM action from abook work? | 16:12 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: ok, you can keep yours alive :p | 16:12 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: with conversations currently, no | 16:48 |
| Wizzup | but we should work on that :) | 16:48 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: no ants here so far with just the powervr.ini change and after reloading pvr modules, battery pretty full though | 17:00 |
| freemangordon | umm... what OS is that? | 17:01 |
| freemangordon | not leste I guess | 17:01 |
| tmlind | stellarium just seems to getting slower and slower, about 2.5 fps right now.. maybe it constantly adds new objects | 17:01 |
| tmlind | only tested so far with with my alpine setup and sway.. | 17:02 |
| freemangordon | about 4 fps here | 17:04 |
| tmlind | hmm | 17:14 |
| tmlind | stellarium 23.3 here, i'll try disabling some objects | 17:16 |
| freemangordon | 0.20.4 | 17:17 |
| freemangordon | maybe xorg renders faster than WL :) | 17:18 |
| tmlind | i get only 4 fps if i disable atmosphere nowadays it seems | 17:22 |
| tmlind | i think i was getting over 12 fps at some point but that was some earlier version of stellarium too | 17:23 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 17:23 |
| freemangordon | back then on n900 it was rendering like mad | 17:23 |
| tmlind | yeah i guess glmark2 is the only thing that really counts though | 17:24 |
| freemangordon | lemme try it with compositing disabled | 17:25 |
| tmlind | no ants though, battery at 87% | 17:25 |
| Wizzup | I don't think the battery plays a role here | 17:26 |
| tmlind | ok great | 17:26 |
| freemangordon | yeah, seems that option fixes the issue | 17:26 |
| tmlind | nice | 17:26 |
| tmlind | earlier i saw ants often when just flipping workspaces in sway | 17:27 |
| tmlind | also nice to hear it does not seem to be a kernel driver cache issue | 17:28 |
| freemangordon | right | 17:28 |
| freemangordon | if it was kernel issue, most probably we would have to live with it | 17:29 |
| tmlind | well that pile of stuff must have many bugs remaining though.. | 17:31 |
| freemangordon | glmark2 Score: 85 | 17:33 |
| freemangordon | this is with full leste stack running | 17:34 |
| tmlind | nice | 17:34 |
| freemangordon | glmark started in fullscreen, in landscape | 17:34 |
| freemangordon | so, no compositing | 17:34 |
| freemangordon | lemme check with compositing | 17:35 |
| freemangordon | I guess twice less :) | 17:35 |
| freemangordon | oh, here we are more or less vsync-ed | 17:37 |
| freemangordon | omg | 17:41 |
| freemangordon | glmark2 Score: 60 | 17:41 |
| freemangordon | I was expecting lower score | 17:41 |
| freemangordon | seems latest DDX performs really well | 17:41 |
| tmlind | great | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | I wonder what would be the results on WL | 17:43 |
| freemangordon | maybe above 90 for non-composited mode | 17:43 |
| tmlind | looks like glmark2 is currently uninstallable for arm on alpine for some reason | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | I was building it from source | 17:45 |
| tmlind | yeah let me check | 17:45 |
| freemangordon | glmark2 2021.02 | 17:46 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: did you try the latest blobs? | 17:52 |
| tmlind | hmm nope, did you? | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | I can't, libc6 is too old in chimaera | 17:53 |
| tmlind | got glmark2 installed, did not have testing repo enabled.. but it won't start, produces Error: Failed to find suitable EGL config | 17:54 |
| freemangordon | 32bpp? | 17:54 |
| tmlind | i think so | 17:55 |
| freemangordon | umm, is that glmark2-wl? | 17:55 |
| tmlind | glmark2-es2-wayland --size 960x540 | 17:56 |
| freemangordon | weird | 17:56 |
| freemangordon | dsc_: weather app is nice, good job :) | 17:58 |
| freemangordon | but.. why Not Open? | 17:58 |
| Wizzup | what is 'Not Open' ? | 17:58 |
| freemangordon | NOMWeather | 17:59 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/NOMWeather | 17:59 |
| Wizzup | oh, in the name | 17:59 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 17:59 |
| freemangordon | dsc_: also, maybe it is better if settings/about windows are stacked | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | The application is called not open maemo weather because during development people kept referring to OMWeather (a legacy maemo application). | 18:01 |
| dsc_ | freemangordon: thanks, it needs some small UX improvements still | 18:02 |
| dsc_ | the QML that powers this weather app can only be described as spaghetti code, but I made it in a few days so.. :P | 18:03 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 18:03 |
| freemangordon | well, I guess that applies to all qml (and js in general) code, no? :p | 18:03 |
| dsc_ | indeed, but this QML is even worse | 18:04 |
| dsc_ | ill change settings to stacked | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | cool | 18:05 |
| freemangordon | it is a matter of setting a property | 18:05 |
| tmlind | i give up on building earlier glmark2 for now.. depends on xdg-shell-client-protocol.h that seems to be only in qt6 dev here and would require uninstall a bunch of qt5 stuff.. | 18:22 |
| freemangordon | why don't you checkout some older version, as I did | 18:23 |
| freemangordon | recent code seems to depend on oh-so-shiny stuff | 18:23 |
| freemangordon | I hit the same issues back then, that's why I am using version from 2021 :) | 18:24 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: if sphone could deal with dynamically added/removed backends, that would be great, btw | 18:27 |
| tmlind | freemangrodon: i tried to build 2021.02 | 18:28 |
| sicelo | arno11: my leste sd was misplaced by my SO. if you don't mind, please install gps-recorder ... should be in the repos. Then see what date it will fetch from the gps (you may need to watch for the gps fix, since i *think* the gps time only shows up as a transient notification). basically, i'd like to confirm if it's 2004-04-27. i will see if i can fix that to show correct date | 18:58 |
| sicelo | fmg: nice work regarding ants! | 19:06 |
| sicelo | btw, i've seen them in fremantle too, a couple of days ago | 19:06 |
| * sicelo prods fmg in the direction of screen rotation on N900, and hides | 19:07 | |
| Wizzup | sicelo: seen ... ants hw bug on fremantle? | 19:13 |
| sicelo | Yes, I was surprised tbh. | 19:14 |
| Wizzup | heh | 19:16 |
| Wizzup | btw, 6834 songs in OMP and it's all smooth :) | 19:16 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: hmm | 19:28 |
| freemangordon | if it persists, we may use the same workaround on N900 | 19:28 |
| freemangordon | please, keep an eye on it with latest DDX | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | if you see it again, please LMK | 19:29 |
| sicelo | i hardly use fremantle, but will note if i see it on Leste | 19:29 |
| freemangordon | oh, on fremantle?!? | 19:30 |
| Wizzup | yes that was my surprise too | 19:30 |
| Wizzup | I haven't seen it on fremantle either | 19:30 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ok, I'll try to find time to put XV support back in mafw | 19:30 |
| freemangordon | so eventually we'll be able to move lots of things to stable as a new-year present for everyone :) | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: oh, and we must find time to check what's going on with PPP h-d | 19:33 |
| Wizzup | I can hook it up in 1-2 hours | 19:40 |
| Wizzup | yup @ new year | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | I won;t have time today, but that shouldn't stop you from booting leste on it :) | 19:45 |
| Wizzup | I'll probably focus on conversations tonight if you're not avail | 19:45 |
| Wizzup | made a lot of progress there and would like to keep that going | 19:45 |
| freemangordon | sure | 19:48 |
| arno11 | sicelo: currently looking @gps | 20:37 |
| arno11 | can't get any sat, i'll try tomorrow in a better place. | 20:52 |
| sicelo | sure :-) | 20:57 |
| sicelo | you shouldn't live in tunnels :p | 20:57 |
| arno11 | lol indeed | 21:02 |
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