libera/#maemo-leste/ Saturday, 2023-12-30

Wizzuparno11: ok, got it booted02:41
Wizzupwill continue tomorrow02:41
freemangordonsicelo: do you have any idea if ofono supports both operator name and alternative operator name09:31
freemangordonI remember you said something about those two09:31
freemangordonWizzup: simlock means there is at least one locked PIN, right?09:47
freemangordonor?09:47
freemangordonoh, no09:47
freemangordonit means phone is locked to carrier09:48
freemangordonso that should be a modem property in ofono terms, no?09:48
sicelofreemangordon: it reports just one name. This name can have a 2nd name embedded.. e.g. "opername (alt)"10:17
freemangordonyes, this alt name10:17
freemangordonis it processed?10:17
siceloYes, but as mentioned there's only one interface to get a name10:18
siceloWhy do you ask btw10:18
freemangordonbecause I am rewriting conn-ui10:19
freemangordonand it has support for alt name10:19
freemangordonso I wonder shall I drop it10:19
freemangordongiven that ofono does not support it10:20
freemangordonso, if this alt name is not used/stored/accessible on ofofno10:20
freemangordonthere is no point connui-cell to support alt name as well10:21
siceloOk.10:22
siceloAs long as you're showing name ... if it has an alt, it will show10:22
WizzupI think I did get the showing of the names correct btw in the current code10:23
siceloI guess in connui (i don't have a chance to look now) was trying to get the alt by looking inside the brackets?10:23
Wizzupno, they are separate10:24
freemangordon:nod:10:24
siceloOh, so it's the name embedded in sim?10:24
freemangordondunno10:24
freemangordonbut as you said ' can have a 2nd name embedded.. e.g. "opername (alt)"'10:24
siceloWhere's connui looking for the alt?10:25
freemangordonthat's operator, not sim issuer10:25
freemangordonon fremantle it comes from the blobns10:25
freemangordon*blobs10:25
freemangordonin leste, it currently comes from nowhere and is not useerd10:25
freemangordon*used10:25
siceloOk.10:26
freemangordonthus my question - does ofono support it10:26
freemangordonif not, I'll drop as well10:26
siceloIn simple terms, no. There's only one name10:26
freemangordonok, thanks10:27
siceloInteresting the one about carrier lock. Not sure if it shows up in ofono10:28
freemangordonI *suspect* it shows up as various network pins required, like  OFONO_SIMMGR_PIN_NETWORK10:34
freemangordonthat's what I am going to implement - if any of those weird pins is required, assume sim is locked10:34
freemangordonumm... phone is loicked10:34
siceloIt's not a sim property10:36
freemangordonyes, but I was not able to find anything else10:36
siceloSo it's highly unlikely to show up as a required pin on that interface10:36
siceloMaybe don't include it :-)10:36
freemangordonok, but what is OFONO_SIMMGR_PIN_NETWORK?10:36
Wizzupthat does sound like network lock10:37
siceloWhere's that in the ofono docs?10:37
freemangordoncheck PinRequired10:37
freemangordonhttps://github.com/maemo-leste-upstream-forks/ofono/blob/maemo-ofono/doc/sim-api.txt10:37
freemangordonbesides "pin" and "puk", all others sound like netword/SP passwords to me10:38
freemangordon*network10:38
freemangordon"Phone-to-SIM PIN is required"10:38
freemangordon?10:39
siceloI'm not sure, but maybe it is :-)10:39
freemangordonso, until we hit an issue/example/#something, I will assume that if any of those pins is required, then we have a simlock10:39
freemangordonunless we have supported device with locked modem we can test that10:40
freemangordonat least I am not aware of any10:41
sicelo>> Wizzup: I think I did get the showing of the names correct btw in the current code ... yes, all seems to be working good lately10:41
freemangordonno worries, I will break it :p10:42
freemangordonI am implementing multiple modem support, along with major rewrite/cleanup10:42
freemangordonso no way everything to work as it should from the first try10:43
siceloAllow me to add two items to your list10:45
sicelo1. Improve handling for ModemRemoved signals. Sometimes d4 modem disappears. On ofono's dbus interface, the modem is gone, but on UI, network bars still show10:48
freemangordonok, I think will be a side-effect anyways10:48
sicelo2. Handle roaming indication. I could probably help with poor quality icons10:49
sicelo:-P10:49
freemangordonah10:49
freemangordonwe don't have that ion fremantle?10:49
freemangordon*in10:49
siceloNo10:49
freemangordonok10:49
freemangordonmakes sense10:50
siceloWe only don't do gprs when roaming10:50
freemangordonsicelo: any clue what PIN vs UPIN vs PIN2 is?10:51
freemangordonah, seems upin is for usim10:53
freemangordonbut, what is pin2?10:53
siceloU* stuff is usually related to cdma/evdo networks10:54
freemangordonok, so it seems this will appear in ofono as PIN10:55
Wizzupit is "pin2" in lib/sim.c I think10:55
freemangordonI am not convinced10:55
freemangordonbecause there *is* PIN210:55
Wizzupinclude/connui-cellular.h:  SIM_SECURITY_CODE_PIN2 = 4,10:55
freemangordonwhich is related to security services10:55
Wizzup:q10:55
WizzupI mapped this in lib/sim.c10:55
Wizzupin connui_cell_sim_verify_attempts_left10:55
freemangordonI know, but I think this is incorrect10:55
Wizzupthey're both called pin2, but ok :D10:56
Wizzupgood to check regardless10:56
freemangordonbecause I think imsi does not support pin210:56
freemangordonbut supports upin10:56
freemangordonah, it is supported10:56
freemangordonWizzup: see https://pastebin.com/MTKAaC1Q11:00
freemangordonpin2 does not seem to be handlet at all11:00
freemangordon*handled11:01
freemangordonwhich kind of make sense to me, as it is not related to SIM phone services11:01
freemangordon"When the PIN2 code ON/OFF setting is set to ON, you are required to  enter the PIN2 code when making user certificate operations. If the  wrong PIN2 code is entered three times in a row, PIN Lock will be  automatically activated."11:01
freemangordonfrom here https://www.docomo.ne.jp/english/support/trouble/password/pin/11:02
Wizzupsure, I just mapped it to connui-cellular code11:03
freemangordonyeah, I know11:03
freemangordonI am on it ATM11:03
Wizzup:)11:09
sicelobtw,don't waste your time with any cdma/evdo support. ofono no longer supports it because such networks practical no longer exist.11:09
freemangordonok11:10
sicelosomething else to look at is how we handle cbs broadcast and class 0 messages.Irc,nl recently had scheduled tests for cbs. I think leste users did not get those messeges.11:19
siceloi am not sure if this is connui's job/the dialer or something else11:21
Wizzupoh is this these annoying ALERTS that they mostly send out in error?11:21
siceloyes11:22
Wizzupugh :D11:23
sicelolol11:24
sicelobut yes we need to handle them, since they'll contain emergency alerts someday11:26
Wizzup"do not come to the city center, it's already bursting with people partying. please stay at home"11:28
Wizzup:)11:28
WizzupI have no idea how these work, do they really come over the regular cellular network?11:28
siceloyes11:29
Wizzupas in, is it operator pushed?11:29
WizzupI see11:29
siceloCellBroadcast. ofono supports it. we had it in Fremantle, but I'm not sure  which part handles it11:29
siceloBut seriously,do you actually gets such messages in those alerts? 😆11:34
Wizzupyes11:37
WizzupI never got them11:37
Wizzupin fremantle11:37
Wizzupfwiw11:37
WizzupI wouldn't count on NL doing the right thing here, it's probably some android and ios specific protocol11:38
Wizzuphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NL-Alert hm11:38
Wizzuplooks like it is cell broadcast then11:38
sixwheeledbeastThey may only broadcast on some towers, only 4G for example. That would make it device dependant.11:57
Wizzupyeah iirc probably it is something like this11:58
siceloor i am wrong and there's actually no cbs in Fremantle.12:01
freemangordonsomeone wrote an applet that hanles them12:02
sicelothe thing is ... class 0 messages behave similarly on ui side12:02
siceloah, that might be it12:02
freemangordon"cbs-boadcast" or someting12:02
freemangordondammit, kbd is falling apart as I type12:03
sicelo:P12:03
freemangordonthe old one was working properly for 15 years or something12:03
freemangordonthis one is 1yo12:03
freemangordonWTF?!?12:03
sicelon900 kbd?12:03
freemangordonno12:03
freemangordonmy PC12:03
siceloah12:04
freemangordonI have to strike half of the keys to get the letter12:04
freemangordonthe other half react ob outside wind12:04
freemangordon*on12:04
Wizzupmaybe code on the droid412:05
freemangordonanyway12:05
freemangordonno, I'll just buy another one later today12:05
Wizzupbtw I was wondering, shall I work around the firmware/kernel issues for d4 wifi?12:05
WizzupI can just try auth/association again if it fails in <0.5s12:05
freemangordonno12:05
Wizzupfor a number of three times12:05
Wizzupok12:05
freemangordonplease don;t, rather pester the maintainers to fix it12:05
freemangordonthis is kernel issue, I can bet12:05
Wizzupso pester ourselves? :D12:05
freemangordonno, why?12:05
Wizzupthat was a joke12:06
freemangordonwl1281 is supported12:06
freemangordonyeah, but still12:06
siceloyes there's kernel team for wifi stuff, including wl*. some time ago, some kernel version broke the wl1251, and they fixed it when i reported the issue12:09
Wizzupok12:12
Wizzupok, channels render ok now in conversations13:26
WizzupI will fixup the logging and then implement joining channels / sending to them, today hopefull13:26
Wizzupu13:26
Wizzupand then tag a new release13:26
Wizzuparno11: load on boot on n900 is quite high indeed13:40
Wizzuplike 11 or something crazy13:40
Wizzupare we on 16 bit yet?13:41
arno11Wizzup: unfortunately not with dec 24 img14:19
arno11and no PA user mode14:20
arno11the last img is 'old', i forgot that14:22
arno11probably unusable ootb14:27
Wizzuparno11: ok, but do we have a leste-config change for 16bit?16:05
freemangordonWizzup: yes16:16
freemangordonhttps://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/commit/e74754a27e08f53b59d43ed736776a59c5d4fd4016:16
Wizzupok, great16:23

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