| diejuse | dsc_ Hello hello | 00:32 |
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| dsc_ | diejuse: hey | 01:15 |
| dsc_ | diejuse: Re: hamsterfiler, dont have time right now, maybe this week ;) | 01:33 |
| diejuse | dsc_ Ok sir | 03:20 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: diejuse: conversations facebook plugin works perfectly in proot :) | 11:25 |
| sicelo | :-) | 11:44 |
| diejuse | @arno11 good! Although I rarely use Facebook messenger. Telegram and IRC are the ones that interest me the most. | 14:02 |
| buZz | did we get telegram in conversations/telepathy yet? | 14:08 |
| buZz | i think i heard signal? | 14:08 |
| buZz | or was it matrix .. | 14:08 |
| buZz | 'in 2024' i've been adopting almost 'all' these messenger services ;) | 14:09 |
| diejuse | buZz We are talking about the plugins that work in Maemo Leste via proot. | 14:12 |
| buZz | ah, i am not aware what proot is ;) | 14:12 |
| buZz | pivot root? | 14:12 |
| diejuse | pseudo root | 14:15 |
| buZz | not sure how that affects plugins | 14:17 |
| Wizzup | arno11: great | 14:31 |
| Wizzup | buZz: signal not yet, but only because signald registration doesn't work atm | 14:31 |
| Wizzup | matrix not really yet, still very muhc wip | 14:31 |
| Wizzup | but I got telegram working okayish | 14:32 |
| buZz | nice nice | 14:32 |
| diejuse | I have added chimaera-testing to sources.list but apt install does not find rtcom-accounts-plugin-telegram. chimaera-testing needs special access? | 16:04 |
| sicelo | i think it's not in a repository yet. | 16:47 |
| diejuse | so how I install it? | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: hm... I *think* it might be | 16:55 |
| Wizzup | https://maedevu.maemo.org/pkgweb/search?q=*telegram* | 16:56 |
| Wizzup | diejuse: what exact line did you add | 16:56 |
| sicelo | ah yeah, sorry. i wasn't looking in extras | 16:58 |
| Wizzup | diejuse: so you need the extras repo line with chimaera-testing instead of chimaera | 16:59 |
| Wizzup | not the regular repo line | 16:59 |
| Wizzup | I know it's confusing and I wished we have gone for chimaera-devel for extras too, but hey. | 16:59 |
| diejuse | Wizzup Ok, ready, installing, Thanks | 17:01 |
| Wizzup | please see the github issue on how to set it up | 17:02 |
| Wizzup | it's not trivial yet. | 17:02 |
| diejuse | Yes, I took a look. | 17:02 |
| sicelo | Wizzup: we can provide *.install files for any extra repos. i suppose support for them in HAM is still intact | 17:05 |
| Wizzup | good point | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | I don't know how this works, would you like to investigate? | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | or make a github issue at least :) | 17:13 |
| Wizzup | btw, the proot stuff is very exciting indeed | 17:13 |
| Wizzup | it might be an easy way to get more people to explore maemo | 17:13 |
| diejuse | Wizzup that is the key, the attraction | 17:54 |
| bencoh | yup, that's ery nice :) | 17:55 |
| diejuse | Hundreds of Android smartphone models from different manufacturers and versions can use Maemo Leste. | 17:57 |
| bencoh | :) | 17:58 |
| sicelo | Wizzup: .install, https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-application-manager/blob/a8fb56644c113cec364cbdb3b8e022472152e675/doc/install.txt#L13 | 19:40 |
| sicelo | except, the one i've made so far is returning "testing.install: Error on line 1 char 1: Document must begin with an element (e.g. <book>) | 19:41 |
| sicelo | /usr/share/hildon-application-manager/defaults: No such file or directory" | 19:41 |
| Wizzup | maybe check if these still exist | 19:43 |
| Wizzup | in ham | 19:43 |
| Wizzup | or dpkg -S | 19:43 |
| sicelo | https://paste.debian.net/1310473/ | 19:43 |
| Wizzup | that is your .install file? | 19:44 |
| sicelo | yes | 19:45 |
| Wizzup | let's see where this defaults file come sfrom | 19:45 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-application-manager-settings-standard maybe | 19:46 |
| Wizzup | parazyd removed the defaults file | 19:46 |
| Wizzup | https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-application-manager-settings-standard/commit/1e91b6c3133c699ffa0a90946e8aabb69111f645 | 19:46 |
| Wizzup | not sure why he did that, or why I asked him to do that, or etc | 19:46 |
| Wizzup | maybe take the file from the git repo, put it there, and se if it makes things work | 19:46 |
| sicelo | yes, i'm doing that | 19:47 |
| sicelo | i think he removed that when fixing the automatic update notification ... | 19:47 |
| sicelo | tbh, i guess HAM should be modified | 19:48 |
| Wizzup | maybe just place the 4 line file there and see if it works | 19:49 |
| Wizzup | oh you said you rae | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | :) | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | are* | 19:50 |
| sicelo | the defaults error is gone, but the one about element is still there | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | hm | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | so it expects some xml file | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | do we need to host some xml file in our deb repo? | 19:52 |
| sicelo | maybe the error is because i'm using hildon-application-manager-config to do the adding. it might be wrong :-p | 19:53 |
| sicelo | let me install FF and see what happens (jib doesn't appear to do downloads) | 19:54 |
| Wizzup | xdg-open might work | 19:54 |
| sicelo | who provides xdg-open? it's not in my VM | 19:59 |
| Wizzup | hm | 20:05 |
| Wizzup | xdg-utils | 20:05 |
| Wizzup | sorry for late response, also in a work mtg | 20:06 |
| sicelo | thanks | 20:12 |
| sicelo | HAM say operation-failed | 20:13 |
| sicelo | log says command not found. weird | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | could be, ham iirc has this socket communication or so | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | and yeah this is a mess imo :D | 20:14 |
| sicelo | this particular feature does work in fremantle though ... that's how CSSu repos were generally added back then | 20:17 |
| sicelo | mmm, or xdg-open doesn't really know what to do with this file ... | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | also possible | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | I don't know what is supposed to open it on maemo | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | fremantle | 20:28 |
| sicelo | it can be opened from file manager or browser. so general mime stuff, i'd say | 20:30 |
| Wizzup | ok, that is /usr/share/mime or something, no? | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | there is /usr/share/mime/packages/hildon-application-manager.xml | 20:35 |
| Wizzup | <mime-type type="application/x-install-instructions"> | 20:35 |
| Wizzup | <comment>Application manager install instructions</comment> | 20:35 |
| Wizzup | <glob pattern="*.install"/> | 20:35 |
| Wizzup | </mime-type> | 20:35 |
| sicelo | yeah, that one's in Leste too | 20:36 |
| sicelo | hildon-application-manager 2.2.72 | 20:40 |
| sicelo | apt-worker exited. | 20:40 |
| sicelo | sudo: /home/user/Downloads/testing.install: command not found | 20:40 |
| sicelo | this is the actual log in HAM ... | 20:40 |
| Wizzup | yeah I just got to that point too | 20:41 |
| Wizzup | how did you make this install file,based on what | 20:43 |
| sicelo | i modified http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/linenoise_all.install | 20:45 |
| Wizzup | isn't that for a single package? | 20:46 |
| Wizzup | guess not | 20:46 |
| Wizzup | I think the first step is ot see if you can add that in fremantle by launching ham with args, or another program | 20:46 |
| sicelo | and of course HAM docs say the same thing, https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-application-manager/blob/a8fb56644c113cec364cbdb3b8e022472152e675/doc/install.txt#L138-L151 | 20:47 |
| Wizzup | and if it works on fremantle, then see how to do it on leste | 20:47 |
| Wizzup | if you run /usr/bin/hildon-application-manager-config dump you might see the format that this expects | 20:48 |
| sicelo | i think there's a bug in our HAM | 20:48 |
| sicelo | i.e. the problem, whatever it is, is not in the install file. i tried importing http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/et_al/HAM-catalogs/linenoise_all.install into Leste HAM, and got exactly same error | 20:49 |
| Wizzup | can you try it on fremantle? | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | and by try it, I mean figure out what to run on the *terminal* to make it do the same | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | so not just open it in the browser | 20:50 |
| sicelo | i'll try a little later :-) | 20:50 |
| sicelo | my N900 is not nearby, hence i was using VM | 20:51 |
| Wizzup | ok | 20:51 |
| arno11 | SIP messaging works in proot as well | 21:43 |
| arno11 | using simple haze | 21:43 |
| arno11 | i mean using conversations ofc | 21:43 |
| Wizzup | cool | 21:50 |
| sicelo | so how do you authenticate to the facebook and telegram plugins? | 21:51 |
| Wizzup | for tg it's as explained in the github issue | 21:52 |
| Wizzup | you use purple for the first and only time | 21:52 |
| Wizzup | s/purple/pidgon/ | 21:52 |
| Wizzup | pidgin* | 21:52 |
| sicelo | ah ok. i confess i haven't been following the development around conversations. let me see how the facebook one works | 21:53 |
| Wizzup | well I mean for telegram | 21:56 |
| Wizzup | idk about fb | 21:56 |
| sicelo | btw, libicd-network-dummy doesn't appear to work in my vm | 22:00 |
| sicelo | let me check that one out ... who knows, maybe that's why the .install isn't working | 22:00 |
| arno11 | sicelo: for facebook, you just need to install the plugin from extras testing in HAM | 22:01 |
| arno11 | no tricky config, just add email and password, and default settings | 22:02 |
| sicelo | yes, but what password? my account has 2FA. or i should check to see if there's app password option in facebook maybe | 22:02 |
| arno11 | ah ok | 22:02 |
| arno11 | iirc there is a trick in this case | 22:03 |
| sicelo | gconftool-2 -R /system/osso/connectivity | grep -i dummy ... please can anyone run this on their device that has dummy available :-) | 22:03 |
| sicelo | i get: | 22:03 |
| sicelo | /system/osso/connectivity/network_type/DUMMY: | 22:03 |
| sicelo | network_modules = [libicd_network_dummy.so] | 22:03 |
| sicelo | in vm ... seems i'm missing IAP | 22:03 |
| sicelo | ah, the installation states that you must add it manually after all | 22:06 |
| arno11 | i get libicd_provider_dummy.so btw | 22:07 |
| sicelo | now it's fine, i get a lot more from that command, and it's all working as expected | 22:08 |
| sicelo | https://paste.debian.net/1310501/ | 22:09 |
| sicelo | doesn't help with HAM. | 22:09 |
| arno11 | you mean you can't use HAM ? | 22:10 |
| sicelo | well, i wanted to make an install file for people to be able to easily add repos | 22:10 |
| sicelo | i'll have a look at this again some time. have to go now | 22:11 |
| arno11 | (for install stuff) ah yes ok | 22:15 |
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