| brolin_empey | sixwheeledbeast: DS4 as in DualShock 4 as in the PlayStation 4 version of the DualShock game controller? | 09:01 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | yes | 09:01 |
| brolin_empey | OK. Do they use a standard USB connector? I still have two DualShock 1 controllers with an adapter to use them as a USB HID. | 09:05 |
| brolin_empey | I still have not gotten around to opening your Mini-ITX link, should do that now. | 09:06 |
| sixwheeledbeast | uUSB and bluetooth DS4 works pretty well | 09:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | limited to main gamepad functions only on the bluetooth but everything works on usb gyro/trackpad headphones | 09:14 |
| brolin_empey | OK. | 09:17 |
| brolin_empey | sixwheeledbeast: I finally opened your Mini-ITX link. All of the CPU cooler, video card, and power supply have fans. How is this computer with multiple fans relevant when I was interested in the MintBox 3 because it is completely solid-state and still has a discrete nVidia GPU? I do not have experience with recent Radeon GPUs but I would not buy another ATI/AMD GPU based upon my experience with them. fglrx for GNU+Linux+Xorg did not support 8-bit colour | 09:57 |
| brolin_empey | depth even though both fglrx on Windows and the nVidia proprietary display driver for Xorg on GNU+Linux do. I discovered that limitation because I wanted to run an X server with 8-bit colour depth. This was with a Radeon HD 3650 in a desktop computer; I do not know if the situation is different with the successor(s) to fglrx. | 09:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | fglrx isn't a thing any more for anything HD5xxx and AMD have open source (amdgpu) drivers now. "solid state" wasn't clear enough I have never heard that term used for a "fanless" system. | 10:00 |
| sixwheeledbeast | HD5xxxx onwards | 10:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | any system without adequate cooling will just throttle itself you can have good specs on paper but the performance will be nothing like it. | 10:04 |
| brolin_empey | I know that fglrx has been replaced, which is why I said that I do not know if the situation is different with the successor(s) to fglrx. If amdgpu and whatever else has replaced fglrx still does not support 8-bit colour depth then I will still avoid AMD GPUs. “Solid-state” in electronics means “no moving parts”. A solid-state computer is necessarily fanless but a fanless computer is not necessarily solid-state because a fanless computer can still | 10:26 |
| brolin_empey | have an HDD or something else with moving parts. I have replaced the HDDs with SSDs in all of the computers I still use but some of these computers still have fans. I think the MintBox 3 will still be faster than the Core 2 computers I currently use with a fanless GeForce GT 730 video card powered only by the PCI-E slot on the motherboard. | 10:26 |
| brolin_empey | Currently my car, which is already aged a decade this month, is newer than the desktop motherboards I use, heh. | 10:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | it's still not a term used like that in pc building. You can get ITX cases that are machined alu with heat pipes. i wouldn't buy any system with proprietary parts that you will struggle to replace, much worst than closed drivers | 10:40 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Fans are generally not an issue with the right system you can have them off at idle to mid load. | 10:41 |
| sixwheeledbeast | that's if the main concern is sound | 10:42 |
| sixwheeledbeast | The amount of issue i have tried to fix on other systems with the Nouveau drvier I wouldn't go near a nvidia card so it works both ways | 10:44 |
| brolin_empey | Sigh. Do you realise that I use the same computers for even at least ten years? I like silent computers. I notice the fan noise from my computers. I use the same computers for long enough that I have to replace things due to dead or dying fans. I compared fglrx to “nvidia”, the official nVidia display driver for Xorg on GNU+Linux, not to Nouveau. I use GNU+Windows NT instead of GNU+Linux as a desktop/notebook client platform but I use GNU+Linux for | 10:51 |
| brolin_empey | other applications. | 10:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | so closed drivers then | 10:52 |
| brolin_empey | Yes, so what? I am not rms. | 10:55 |
| brolin_empey | Is it even feasible to use 4k UHD with an open-source display driver? I like 3840×2160 compared to 1920×1200 or only 1920×1080. | 10:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Sigh if you want. It wasn't clear what you where looking for, I tried to help and give you some options. a lot of "silent builds" are not completely fanless. FWIW I wouldn't get something like a Mintbox it would have to be something that you can get all the components off the shelf as top priority but everyone has other priorities. | 11:01 |
| sixwheeledbeast | amd will run 4k multiple displays with the open drivers, slowly the closed and open drivers are merging which is a good thing IMO. | 11:03 |
| brolin_empey | The only reason I was reading about the MintBox 3 is because I subscribe to the news feed for the Linux Mint project, which posted a review of the MintBox 3. As I already said weeks ago, I cannot justify spending that much money on a new computer when the fanful Core 2 computers I currently use still suffice for my use case. | 11:06 |
| sicelo | ~techstaff | 12:26 |
| infobot | i heard techstaff is techstaff(AT)maemo.org - the folks that keep your maemo infra running. Devotion to Duty http://xkcd.com/705/ | 12:26 |
| sicelo | ssl certs (at least for the wiki) have expired | 12:27 |
| warfare | sicelo: I'll have a look (shouldn't have, thats usually certbot's job) | 13:13 |
| warfare | [x] done. | 13:19 |
| sicelo | Thanks | 13:30 |
| sicelo | there's a birthday event in my calendar that won't delete, engen though the person no longer exists in my contacts. the delete operation in the calendar application (stock or qalendar) goes through okay, but the entry remains. | 14:22 |
| sicelo | s/engen/even/ | 14:22 |
| infobot | sicelo meant: there's a birthday event in my calendar that won't delete, even though the person no longer exists in my contacts. the delete operation in the calendar application (stock or qalendar) goes through okay, but the entry remains. | 14:22 |
| sicelo | I'm wondering if anyone knows a good way to fix this. otherwise I'll look at exploring and reimporting the entries I still need | 14:24 |
| sicelo | ok, got it out of the way using sqlite3. i hope i won't have some bad side effects | 14:31 |
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