libera/#devuan-dev/ Wednesday, 2023-01-11

LeePenMorning.09:12
LeePenAny thoughts on the pending uploads to chimaera: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/britney/chimaera/excuses.html09:13
LeePenAny reasons not to migrate them?09:13
LeePenThere are also a few for beowulf: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/britney/beowulf/excuses.html09:13
rrqlooks fine to me09:15
bgstack15Just to be clear, LeePen, are allthese tickets getting updated/closed by you, or is the email system catching up on previous work?13:55
LeePenYes, me.13:55
LeePenNow I can script the BTS using SOAP, it is much easier to filter and process.13:56
LeePenI have done most of the obvious ones.13:57
JorilVery nice!14:01
LeePenIt is mainly finding the relavant Debian bugs, adding them as forwarded and the closing the ones that are fixed.14:01
bb|hcbLeePen: I did check the list of stable updates, as per me rsyslog, openvpn, network-manager and rrqnet are good to go. I am not using and don't know anything about the others, most probably they are good to go too :)17:48
bb|hcbGood job sorting the bugs!17:48
LeePenThanks. I'll give britney a hint to unblock them.17:55
golinuxIt was a veritable tsunami!18:03
golinuxWell done!!18:03
LeePenThanks.18:05
slipsTZAG, folks, are you guys looking for a new mirror?20:26
Xenguyslips, I think new mirrors are always welcome : -)20:36
bb|hcbslips: New mirrors are always welcome, especially there are not enough in the americas. Set it up and ping onefang here or mirrors@devuan.org20:36
Xenguy^^20:37
slipsany docs on how i could go about setting one up? Also, are there any lists out there of the current mirrors and their locations?20:37
bb|hcbXenguy: hehe ;)20:38
bb|hcbhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt20:38
Xenguybb|hcb, That was funny20:38
bgstack15Devuan meet tomorrow, Thursday, January 12, at 20:30 UTC. Pad is here: https://pad.dyne.org/code/#/2/code/edit/Jfa9RwB9gM92c0JT-wa42eyx/20:39
bb|hcbhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt - these are the package ones, here are the .ISO ones: https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan20:39
slipsgreat, thanks20:41
bb|hcbslips: What location are you going to do? Also, do you mirror Debian?20:41
slipsSouthern US, specifically Oklahoma. I do not mirror debian no.20:41
slipsEither that or Ashburn VA, unsure atm, still doing research.20:42
Xenguyslips, Great, as bb|hcb mentioned, I think more mirrors in the Americas are needed20:43
slipsyeah, looks like there's only 220:44
slipsin the US*20:44
bb|hcbDevuan is implemented like an overlay to Debian, some packages are forked to meet the Init Freedom goal and the rest are used 1:1 from Debian. This helps to keep Devuan's mirrors small but requires access to a Debian mirror too (it is ok to use deb.debian.org for the redirects)20:45
slipsDuly noteds20:46
slipsnoted*20:46
bb|hcbThere are also DNS round robins - deb.devuan.org (the official one) and CC.deb.devuan.org (not yet officially announced, many of the mirrors already support that, no idea how many users are there). The CC stands for country code, e.g. us.deb.devuan.org20:49
slipsinteresting.20:50
bb|hcbFor countries where no mirror volunteered to take part in the DNS RR, the respective CC.deb.devuan.org resolves to xx.deb.devuan.org which in turn will redirect to deb.devuan.org. Fetching from pkgmaster.devuan.org is not recommended because of its limited bandwidth which is best used to sync the mirrors20:51
bb|hcbThat setup also allows to add a mirror in more than one CC DNS RR20:53
slipsI see. I don't forsee hosting anywhere outside of the US for the time being but if I ever do I'll keep that in mind20:54
bb|hcbE.g. if you decide to take part in this, you can also add mx, ca or another nearby country which you mirror will serve well20:55
slipsaaah that makes sense actually. Yeah I'll have to look into this. My only concern is that this i'm currently planning to run this on a residential network so i'd be concerned about speed. I suppose I could find a VPS or something to run it off of but nonetheless20:57
bb|hcbA full setup will have http(s)://yourdomain.ext/devuan and it will also serve http://*.deb.devuan.org (note there is no way to enable https on DNS RRs)20:58
slipsi see.21:01
bb|hcb... no known wat to enable https, to be more precise ;)21:01
bgstack15eh, apt repos by design don't need https so it's all good21:01
bb|hcbbgstack15: Yes it is safe, but many people prefer it, to avoid been monitored21:03
bgstack15true, true21:03
bgstack15That's a secondary reason I mirror everything for myself locally. The main reason is I do lots of netinstalls.21:03
bgstack15although that's with a preseed. I don't know how to get the Devuan 4.0 netinstall iso to prompt for an arbitrary http mirror url.21:04
bb|hcbIt has only deb.d.o and pkgmaster.d.o, and IMO the last should somehow be removed from there21:06
bb|hcbslips: If your residential connection is stable and has static ips, then there is no problem to take part in some of the RR, although, in general, running some infra from home does not sound like a great idea; if you need help with the setup, ask here :)21:12
slipsThese docs look pretty exhaustive, I'll let you know if I have any issues. I'm aware of the issues with running infra on a residential network, hence why i'm also considering putting it on like, a VPS or something.21:21
onefangThanks for filling in for me while I slept.23:09
onefangslips: I look after the package mirrors, not the ISO mirrors.23:10
slipsit was my intention to run a package mirror anyways so that's fine by me.23:20

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