| enyc | I'm coming to views theres some sort of race codition with sysvinit booting, initrd, new debian kernel, possibly mworse with cryptsetup ........ | 11:44 |
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| enyc | goes wrong SOMETIMES and when it does you get a lot of warnings about timeout with respect to device nodes appearing, keyboard may not work in X11 at first, extra disks don't appear in MATE computer/Places menu automatically, etc... | 11:45 |
| enyc | Be good if a 'dev with beowulf install debian's 5.2.0-2- kernel+headers+kbuild packages and see if problem occurs there too, for them. | 11:46 |
| fsmithred | enyc, did the warnings look like this? | 13:23 |
| fsmithred | WARNING: Device /dev/sda not initialized in udev database even after waiting 10000000 microseconds. | 13:23 |
| fsmithred | I got a bunch of those in beowulf, but it was with 4.19 kernel | 13:23 |
| enyc | fsmithred: YES I think so | 13:25 |
| fsmithred | On another beowulf (upgade from Refracta-9.1) I added 5.2 kernel from ceres and made a bootable live-iso. Seems to be working ok, but that's without a lot of testing. | 13:25 |
| enyc | fsmithred: it happens on a slower hdd system with cryptsetup encrypted disk booting | 13:25 |
| enyc | but still intermittently, not every boot | 13:25 |
| fsmithred | I think I got those warnings when initrd had the wrong uuid in conf/conf.d/resume | 13:25 |
| enyc | fsmithred: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume "RESUME=/dev/mapper/clone_vg-swap" which is correct for the encrypted swap partition | 13:27 |
| fsmithred | are you doing full-disk encryption? (/boot is encrypted) | 13:27 |
| enyc | fsmithred: /boot is not encrypted | 13:28 |
| enyc | fsmithred: this is full disk encryption, system upgraded to beowulf | 13:28 |
| enyc | if I'm not mistaken the problem happens more often under newer kernel | 13:28 |
| fsmithred | I made a note where I saved that error message: | 13:29 |
| fsmithred | dist-upgrade in beowulf in chroot. More stuff needs to be bind-mounted. | 13:29 |
| enyc | well, initrd asks for password, not grub | 13:29 |
| fsmithred | Eventually, it finishes, and it works ok. | 13:29 |
| enyc | fsmithred: for me, it EVENUTALYL finishes but other things later misbehave | 13:30 |
| enyc | fsmithred: e.g. MATE desktop not seeing removable andh encryptd disks ready to mount | 13:30 |
| enyc | e.g. X11 needs restarting to have keyboard/mouse responsive | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | oh, I got that warning when running update-grub in chroot | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | not while booting | 13:31 |
| enyc | in any case i think theres' something going on that looks like it could be udev related ;p | 13:31 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 13:31 |
| enyc | if you an run beowulf and 5.2 kernel on your own systems as much as possible might trigger it more often...? | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | maybe, but I removed 5.2 from that VM | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | I forget why. | 13:33 |
| enyc | given the intermittency, race condition? | 13:33 |
| fsmithred | something was wrong and I decided I should wait for a backports kernel | 13:33 |
| enyc | fsmithred: let me know if anything i coan/sholud try on own worknig sytem would be helpful | 13:33 |
| fsmithred | wish I knew what to work on | 13:34 |
| enyc | fsmithred: fwiw, debian buster and systemd, not giving similar issue with same kernel, but not tried encrypted boot on slow hdd combo | 13:34 |
| enyc | linux-image-5.2.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 backport does now exist, too! | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | here's another note about the update-grub problem I was having: | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | mount --bind /hostrun/udev /run/udev | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | Then grub-install succeeds. | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | this was on unencrypted lvm | 13:39 |
| fsmithred | This post was somewhat helpful: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/105389/arch-grub-asking-for-run-lvm-lvmetad-socket-on-a-non-lvm-disk | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | and I was doing this with 4.19 kernel. This was 2 months ago. | 13:44 |
| telmich | moin moin | 18:55 |
| telmich | we (ungleich++) might be going to the linuxdays in Dornbirn & might also be presenting Devuan ; do we still have some merchandise left from the conference in Amsterdam? | 18:56 |
| fsmithred | telmich, when I left on Tuesday after conference, there was still at least half a brick of usb sticks and a bunch of T-Shirts. The usb sticks are blank but say Devuan on the side. | 21:11 |
| telmich | parazyd: ping. do you have an overview of the devuan merchandise? | 23:13 |
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