libera/#maemo-leste/ Sunday, 2023-12-17

Wizzuparno11: I think it should work with haze too then10:38
Wizzuparno11: interesting hack though :D10:38
Wizzupuvos: I am getting this with your master + my commits on top, using qtloop: https://pastebin.com/raw/fTKAg39u10:49
WizzupI think err is unitialised10:50
Wizzupyep that's it10:51
WizzupI pushed a fix to the existing pr for now10:52
ungeskriptetNot sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have experience with DPI panels? I have an old Galaxy S2 with OMAP 4430 and have trouble getting it to work. The panel just flashes shortly, turns black and then (sometimes) slowly fades to a brownish image. The DCS commands are being sent through SPI to mcspi4. It only has CS, SCLK and10:54
ungeskriptetSIMO conncted. I even recompiled the downstream kernel to recreate the exact init seqeunce in mainline but no luck so far :/ Do I maybe need extra setup for using DPI panels on OMAP 4430?10:54
ungeskriptetHere's my dts https://github.com/ungeskriptet/linux/blob/omap4430/v6.6/arch/arm/boot/dts/ti/omap/omap4-samsung-t1.dts10:54
WizzupI think uvos, tmlind and freemangordon probably have experience with this, maybe not with this specific one though10:57
freemangordonfreemangordon shall be excluded10:59
freemangordon:)10:59
humanbetaI upgraded sphone in my Pinephone and it doesn't start anymore and does not ring if somebody call.11:41
humanbetahas somebody else same kind of problem? Or is it only with my installation.11:42
sicelommm, only sphone?11:44
humanbetaSphone dialer and Sphone new sms and does not work. Good question when I tested last time Sphone because I havent use it as main phone, but somewhere october I remember it worked.11:48
buZzhumanbeta: any errors if you start those from commandline?11:48
Wizzuphumanbeta: I think it could be the problem I identified an hour ago or so11:49
Wizzupcan you start it from the console and see if it segfaults?11:49
humanbetabuzz: Segmentation fault11:50
humanbetawizzup: yes it is that.11:51
Wizzuphumanbeta: let's see, uvos owns the pkg so I don't just want to push a fix, can you help me debug if it is the same problem?>12:00
Wizzupcan you do: sudo apt-get install sphone-dbgsym gdb12:00
Wizzupand then 'gdb sphone'12:00
Wizzupand then type 'run'12:00
Wizzupand then when it crashes, type 'bt'12:00
humanbetaok..I try12:00
Wizzupif not, it's ok, we'll try to push out a fix today, but it would be good to check that you're not seeing a different problem somehow12:01
humanbetaI think line #0 is enough: #0  __strlen_generic () at ../sysdeps/aarch64/multiarch/../strlen.S:9812:05
Wizzupdo you have the rest of the backtrace?12:08
Wizzupor is that difficult to share?12:08
Wizzupbut yes, it does look like the same problem12:08
Wizzupfreemangordon: what do you think, shall I push a fix to sphone and issue a new build?12:08
Wizzupthis is the problem: https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/commit/e15a28e3bc7292ee4aaa6ab80d0ccee8bfc8b6fb12:09
humanbetaI think you dont need more than next line: #1  0x0000007ff7cd3728 in __vfprintf_internal (s=s@entry=0x7fffffc230, format=0x7ff0bae2f8 "%s: Can not create ebook: %s",12:09
humanbeta    ap=..., mode_flags=<optimized out>) at vfprintf-internal.c:164712:09
Wizzuphumanbeta: yes, this is the same problem12:09
Wizzuphumanbeta: ok I'll push a fix12:12
Wizzupsec12:12
Wizzuphumanbeta: ok, in ~5-10 mins try apt update12:14
Wizzupand apt upgrade12:14
humanbetaok, thanks.12:14
humanbetawhou! it works after update! I even did not restart Pinephone. Thanks for support. I think Maemo Leste has the best phone OS support in the World..and only I need to get support was IRC in Maemo Leste phone.12:34
sicelo:-)12:34
Wizzuphumanbeta: irc support is coming12:36
Wizzupvery soon12:37
dsc_soon™12:40
humanbeta:)12:40
dsc_humanbeta: are you using 'conversations' ?12:40
dsc_the chat program12:40
humanbetano..just thru web.libera.chat with Firefox.12:41
WizzupI doubt he'd be using it for irc yet12:41
Wizzupalso since tp-ring isn't integrate it also isn't used for sms yet12:41
Wizzupintegrated*12:41
humanbetaI know Firefox is not lightest way use IRC with Pinephone.12:43
dsc_there is a client in development for it, but its not really ready yet12:43
dsc_called 'conversations'12:44
dsc_soon™12:44
bencohmeanwhile you could use irssi, or xchat, or ...12:44
humanbetahave to test...or better not..I was hooked to IRC badly when I had too good client on Symbian S80 phone.12:46
sicelo the good old S80 days, not to mention the awesome keyboard12:50
humanbetaPinephone keyboard is even better..I just wait official layout fix..tired fix after every restart.12:52
humanbetabut I still miss Nokia 9500 size..Neo9500 with Maemo Leste someday?12:54
sicelo--> Motorola Droid 4, I guess12:54
sicelobtw, my D4's gpu likes to crash frequently lately. any ideas Wizzup?12:55
siceloit's not power ... this happened last night while it was charging. nothing was running, besides that i had connected to it via ssh.12:56
sicelounfortunately i have mistakenly closed the ssh window where the crash appeared12:57
Wizzupcrash as in hang?13:18
siceloyes13:32
sicelowhen i get back to it, screen is black, nothing shows, or there's a mouse cursor somewhere.13:32
sicelosometimes it recovers on its own.13:32
Wizzupsicelo: I have seen this too, mostly with fullscreen apps13:33
Wizzupmore recently mpv and jib13:33
Wizzupfreemangordon: the osso-abook stuff you linked has a TpAccount arg13:52
WizzupI guess I'll need to go from ptqt's tp account to the glib tpaccont..13:52
Wizzupaccount*13:52
freemangordonperhaps14:26
freemangordonhmm, wait14:27
freemangordonjust get uid from qt account14:27
freemangordonand crate tpaccount from tha tuid14:27
freemangordonlemme check14:27
freemangordonosso_abook_account_manager_lookup_by_name()14:28
freemangordonand friends14:28
freemangordoncheck osso-abook-account-manager.h14:28
freemangordonunless there is an easy way to go from qt tpaccount to glib tpaccount14:29
Wizzupdoubt it14:33
Wizzup@ easy way14:33
freemangordonwell, then you have to either   create new account manager or do osso_abook_account_manager_get_default() and wait for it to become ready before using it14:36
freemangordonand then call some of the lookup functions14:36
freemangordondo you want me to implement that?14:36
Wizzupyes, maybe, but hang on for a bit (work mtg)14:37
WizzupI'm still trying to figure out where to add this code to conversations, will commit the cmake changes and then I'll poke you14:37
freemangordonok14:37
freemangordonmaybe I won't be able to do it later, I will go out14:37
Wizzupif you can link me to some code where this is done already I can check it14:38
Wizzupfun stuff, qt and gtk in one app, and telepathyqt and telepathy-glib, each with their own account managers :D14:38
freemangordonyeah14:38
freemangordonre example - what do you want to achieve?14:39
Wizzupfreemangordon: to get account manager set up and wait for it to be ready14:45
WizzupI guess14:45
Wizzupbtw, how does osso-abook use TpAccount?14:45
Wizzupdoes it just get one property from it, or?14:46
Wizzupat least in the call in question14:47
Wizzuphttps://github.com/maemo-leste/osso-abook/blob/master/lib/osso-abook-aggregator.h#L145 this call14:48
Wizzupfreemangordon: btw I can't find that function in osso-abook, just in the header14:53
WizzupI can find osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_phone_number14:53
Wizzupso osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_sip_address and osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_im_contact I can't find in the src14:54
Wizzupmaybe they are not implemented yet?14:54
lolcatwtracker-extract process seems to be using most of the cpu on my nokia n90016:13
lolcatwnow that im looking at htop16:13
lolcatw/usr/libexec/tracker-extract16:13
Wizzuplolcatw: are you on -devel and upgraded?16:14
lolcatwdist-upgrade required?16:14
lolcatwi changed the repos and did apt update && upgrade16:14
lolcatwotherwise yes, i am on devel16:15
lolcatwyeah, it keeps randomly cranking cpu usage to 100% when i view it in htop16:19
sicelodon't look :p16:30
bencoh:D16:30
bencohtbh even on leste I end up killing tracker-indexer at every boot16:30
bencohs/leste/fremantle/16:31
lolcatwwhats the purpose of this process16:32
bencohtracker-* track media files and whatnot, keep the media db up-to-date, build thumbnails, among other things (afair)16:34
Wizzuplolcatw: please keep track of if the tracker will keep using cpu16:38
Wizzupit should settle16:39
lolcatwit uses 100% of the cpu every 5-10 seconds16:39
arno11? not normal16:39
lolcatwmy phone has been booted for atleast a day now, since it was charging16:39
arno11usually it runs @100% for few sec after installing/removing stuff but that's all16:40
arno11if it runs @100% every 10 sec, it explains slowness16:42
arno11are you sure to be up-to-date?16:43
lolcatwi did apt update and upgrade16:43
lolcatwrebooted16:43
lolcatwoh and i changed my sources.list16:43
arno11ok16:44
Wizzuparno11: that can be normal when indexing16:44
Wizzuptry tracker status -f16:44
Wizzupsorry16:44
Wizzuptracker daemon -f16:44
lolcatwi omitted writing "droid4" in my sources.list, is that what's wrong16:44
Wizzupor tracker status16:44
arno11droid4 is not needed16:45
siceloand should absolutely not be there16:45
arno11indeed16:45
lolcatwwhat's the default password for ssh16:47
freemangordonuser16:47
freemangordonuser/user16:47
freemangordonroot/toor16:47
lolcatwoh yeah im in thanks16:48
lolcatw"user"16:48
lolcatwi thought it had failed16:48
freemangordonbencoh: tracker-indexer on leste?16:48
bencohon fremantle*16:49
freemangordonnever had issues with it16:49
freemangordonWizzup: line 232716:50
lolcatwhttps://paste.ee/p/bX9ua16:50
lolcatwthat's my sources.list ^^16:50
freemangordonhttps://github.com/maemo-leste/osso-abook/blob/master/lib/osso-abook-aggregator.c#L232716:50
freemangordonwhy did you enable experimental?16:51
freemangordonlolcatw: ^^^16:51
lolcatwbecause i was told to16:51
freemangordonno, it was disabled16:51
Wizzupfreemangordon: yes, where is the im one?>16:51
Wizzuposso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_im_contact16:52
Wizzupor osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_sip_address16:52
lolcatwshould i do a fresh install? If I remove it now i feel like my packages are going to be broken16:52
freemangordonno16:52
freemangordonjust disable it16:52
freemangordonWizzup: lemme check16:52
freemangordonWizzup: hmm, yeah, it seems I have forgotten to RE those16:53
freemangordongimme some time16:54
lolcatwwhat's the service name for file tracking16:54
freemangordonno service16:54
lolcatwis there no way to disable it?16:54
lolcatweven through ssh this thing is so slow16:55
freemangordonlolcatw: if you have issue, please help us fix it16:55
lolcatwsure man16:55
freemangordonyes, it is slow16:55
freemangordonand tracker is not to blame16:55
lolcatwwell its the process using 100% of my cpu every 8 seconds or so, i assumed that was the culprit16:55
freemangordondo you have put some music or video files?16:55
freemangordonit should not do so16:55
lolcatwthere is one file in there16:56
lolcatwdanec2.webm16:56
lolcatw3mb file16:56
lolcatwand i clone a repository for my chat client16:56
lolcatwwhich contains lots of folders16:56
lolcatwbut not media files in there16:56
freemangordonwhich process takes 100% cpu?16:56
arno11lolcatw: what is your exact sdcard model btw ?16:56
freemangordontrracker-miner, tracker-extract or tracker-store?16:56
freemangordonyeah, that's another question worth answering16:57
lolcatwtracker-extract16:57
freemangordonbecause on a slow sdcard it will be even slower16:57
freemangordonok, could you run tracker daemon -f16:57
lolcatwhttps://paste.ee/p/3e1A916:58
freemangordonok, not good16:59
freemangordoncould you do tracker daemon -t16:59
freemangordonand then tracker-daemon -s16:59
freemangordonto see if it will continue to use CPU16:59
lolcatwsure16:59
lolcatwa bunch more "extracting data" thingies popped up since i left that last command running17:00
lolcatwdont know if that helps17:00
freemangordonthat media file, is it from here https://lolcat.ca/files/good%20music/ ?17:00
lolcatwyes17:00
freemangordonok17:00
lolcatwbut it did that cpu usage even before i added that file17:01
freemangordonwhat tracker-daemon -f does?17:01
freemangordonah17:01
freemangordonok, lets reset tracker db then17:01
lolcatwyeah, -f does17:01
lolcatwtracker daemon -s sort of freezes my ssh session17:01
freemangordondoes what? still showing extract every few seconds?17:01
lolcatwyea17:01
lolcatwit does that17:01
freemangordonok, lets try tracker reset -r17:02
lolcatwok i did that17:02
lolcatwmonitoring cpu usage right now17:03
freemangordon/usr/bin/mafw.sh stop mafw-tracker-source17:03
freemangordon/usr/bin/mafw.sh start mafw-tracker-source17:03
lolcatwok still seeing 100% cpu usage every uhh17:04
lolcatwright now its capped at 100%17:04
freemangordonwait17:04
freemangordonthat's normal17:04
freemangordonit rebuilds the databse17:04
lolcatwlol ok17:04
freemangordonrun tracker daemon -f17:04
freemangordonand tell me what it says17:04
lolcatwhttps://paste.ee/p/xijks17:05
freemangordonlooks good17:05
freemangordonif it stays like that, it is ok17:06
lolcatwit is far better now17:06
lolcatwits idling at 8%17:06
lolcatwthanks man17:06
freemangordonnp17:06
freemangordonseems you tracker db was corrupted somehow17:06
lolcatwall i did was clone rena client from my gitea17:06
lolcatwand download that one file17:06
freemangordonhard to say what made it corrupt17:07
lolcatwi know rena client has lots of submodules installed through npm, so that might be why17:07
lolcatwi will keep you posted about the issue17:07
freemangordonah, wait17:07
freemangordonif there are help files/readmes etc etc17:07
freemangordontracker might want to extract them as well17:07
freemangordonbecause it supports full-text-search17:08
freemangordonanyway17:08
lolcatwtracker needs some bug fixing lo17:08
freemangordonunfortunately we use soem old version17:08
lolcatwtheres an .md file in tehre17:08
lolcatwand a screenshot.png file17:08
freemangordonthat's no longer maintained17:08
freemangordonok, so then it is normal17:08
freemangordonit will index/extract all those17:09
freemangordonkeep in mind tracker runs with very low cpu/io priority17:09
freemangordoncould you answer the question about your uSD card model?17:09
freemangordonlolcatw: ^17:09
lolcatwits some off brand thing, but im pretty sure its still quite fast17:10
freemangordonthat's not enough17:10
lolcatwis there a way to check in the cli or do i have to remove the sd card from there17:10
lolcatwi have this samsung EVO one17:10
freemangordonafaik you have to remove it17:10
lolcatwmkay lemme do that right now17:10
* freemangordon does the same17:10
lolcatwits a17:11
lolcatwNEXXTECH microSD HC 16GB class 1017:11
freemangordonheh17:11
freemangordonarno11: ^^^17:11
arno11definitely too slow17:12
lolcatwill try with my samsung one17:12
freemangordonsandisk extreme 128GB A2 V30 XC1 U3 here17:13
lolcatwok the samsung one is a 64GB u3 EVO17:13
arno11:)17:14
freemangordonarno11: mine should be ok, right?17:14
lolcatwis 64gb too big?17:14
freemangordonno17:14
lolcatwok nice17:14
lolcatwi will flash it right now17:14
arno11freemangordon: yes :)17:14
freemangordonsee mine ^^^, it is 12817:14
arno11no card are too big17:14
lolcatwi have to admit, i might've flashed the wrong image since someone was surprised it was using devuan17:14
lolcatwwhat image do you people use?17:14
freemangordonno17:14
freemangordonwe *are* using devuan as a base17:15
lolcatwoh oh oh17:15
lolcatwhttps://maedevu.maemo.org/images/n900/20231203-chimaera/?C=M&O=D17:19
lolcatwthats the ISO i need, correct?17:19
freemangordonwhy don;t you just copy your old card to the new one?17:20
freemangordonand then expand rootfs to 64 GB17:20
lolcatwi only have 1 sd card reader17:22
lolcatwunless i can dd the image to a file17:22
freemangordonmhm17:23
lolcatwyeah ill just dd a fresh image on there17:26
arno11lolcatw: i recommend you to disable apt-worker after your first boot (see wiki) ;)17:28
lolcatwawesome thanks17:28
freemangordonarno11: not really a good idea, that way no update notifications will be issueds17:29
lolcatwbut that is the right image to use right17:29
freemangordonshould be17:29
freemangordonif it is the last one17:29
lolcatwmkay17:29
arno11freemangordon: agree but it is slowing down n900 to much on fresh install17:31
arno11ofc if wifi is on17:31
Wizzupit runs like once a week or so17:36
Wizzupfreemangordon: maybe we should start moving some things to stable, incl. tracker fixes (if not already)17:36
arno11Wizzup: yes indeed but when it runs n900 is not usable for at least 3 min :D17:38
freemangordonarno11: well, make a PR fixing it CPU/IO pri then17:40
lolcatwyeah that new sdcard is way faster17:40
lolcatw37.9mb/s17:40
freemangordoninstead of telling users to "just disable it" :)17:41
freemangordonWizzup: agree17:41
freemangordonafaik there are no outstanding issues17:41
arno11freemangordon: true, not a bad idea lol17:45
WizzupI got four u3 cards yesterday btw17:53
Wizzupenough for testing :)17:53
arno11lucky man17:53
Wizzupno I mean I got them from the shop :)17:54
freemangordon:)17:55
arno11ok :) which model ?17:55
Wizzupsome sandisk ones17:59
arno11ok cool18:01
freemangordonWizzup: https://github.com/maemo-leste/osso-abook/commit/8189df5237c5ac89ca05e44d3e20ad856b7a2f2418:08
freemangordonbuilding for stable now18:08
lolcatwoh my god i've been trying to flash the image for an hour now18:10
lolcatwi dont know why it doesn't work18:10
lolcatwsudo dd if=~/Desktop/maemo.img.xz of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M status=progress18:10
lolcatwit says it copied everything, but when i look in gparted it's just a big partition that says "unallocated"18:10
lolcatwi also made sure to unmount the sd card as well18:10
lolcatwwhat am i doing wrong18:10
sicelo xzcat ~/Desktop/maemo.img.xz | sudo dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M status=progress18:12
freemangordonkernel has to re-read partition table, afaik18:13
sicelothey're 'burning' a direct .xz :-)18:13
arno11indeed18:13
freemangordonah, right18:13
freemangordon:)18:13
lolcatwafaik as soon as you flash it the kernel detects both volumes18:18
lolcatwok ill try booting now18:19
siceloyou used the command i gave you?18:21
lolcatwyup18:21
lolcatwworks now18:21
lolcatwkernel loads in18:21
freemangordondon't forget to extend rootfs18:23
lolcatwyeah its faster now18:32
arno11more faster after reboot18:40
arno11don't forget to dist-upgrade to devel18:41
lolcatwwill do18:42
arno11:)18:42
lolcatwyeah debian update on my local system broke my irc client18:43
lolcatwbrb18:43
arno11Wizzup: for the bitlbee hack: btw it works nicely with conversations AND notifications. to connect i just need to set availability to online, using the applet, really cool :)18:53
bencoharno11: conversations <--> bitlbee to access other libpurple protocols?18:58
arno11yep18:59
arno11bitlbee on localhost19:00
arno11then irc set to localhost in conversations19:00
arno11this way fb messenger works :)19:00
lolcatwso cool19:01
arno11and theorically telegram, signal, x19:01
arno11even whatsapp19:01
lolcatwok i did the upgrade19:02
lolcatw8% idle again19:02
arno11cool19:02
lolcatwbefore upgrade it was at 10-20%19:02
lolcatwthats awesome thanks everyone for the help19:02
arno11because now system runs @16bpp19:02
lolcatwbpp's?19:03
Wizzuparno11: yeah I think telepathy-haze will be better19:03
arno11xorg default depth in bit per pixel19:03
Wizzupbut still a cool setup nonetheless19:03
Wizzupfreemangordon: ty19:04
arno11Wizzup: ofc haze will be better but not easy to find and run the right plugins19:04
Wizzuparno11: hm?19:04
Wizzuparno11: haze does the exact same as bitlbee19:04
Wizzupjust for telepathy instead of irc19:04
Wizzupit loads libpurple plugins19:04
Wizzupor do you mean to actually get it set up :)19:05
arno11yeah i mean to setup19:05
arno11otherwise yeah that's the same stuff19:06
Wizzupyeah, currently for sure19:09
Wizzupfreemangordon: https://github.com/maemo-leste/osso-abook/blob/master/lib/osso-abook-aggregator.h#L104 should this return a roster?20:08
WizzupI guess so20:16
arno11Wizzup: i've been able to build and hack a libpurple facebook plugin version working on n900 (it already works through pidgin). My question is why the plugin is not visible in 'voip and im accounts' ?20:21
Wizzupfor it to show up in a UI it also needs a plugin for control panel20:21
arno11ah ok20:21
Wizzupyeah, you'll have to work on it using mc-tool for now\20:22
arno11ok20:22
arno11thx :)20:24
Wizzuparno11: here btw https://github.com/maemo-leste/rtcom-accounts-plugins20:28
Wizzupfreemangordon: using osso_abook_aggregator_get_default and osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts_for_phone_number I can't lookup my phone number to my contact20:34
arno11Wizzup: tyvm !20:35
Wizzuparno11: probably not hard to make one for the fb plugin20:36
arno11yes i think so (it needs very few parameters)20:39
Wizzupthere are various xmpp plugins20:40
Wizzupso you can probably just take those20:40
Wizzupjust change the protocol and the names20:41
Wizzupsicelo: arno11: building new libcmtspeechdata20:45
arno11ok cool :)20:46
arno11bbabl20:46
Wizzupfreemangordon: looking at yappary and rtcom-eventlogger-ui for examples atm20:48
Wizzupfreemangordon: ah I guess I need some glib loop to wait for it to be ready20:49
Wizzupfreemangordon: ok have it working now20:52
arno11Wizzup: btw it is not xmpp anymore for fb but mqtt21:23
Wizzupok21:25
Wizzupsicelo: managed to set up github 2fa immediately with the new maeotp21:39
Wizzup:)21:39
Wizzupas in, the defaults were good21:40
sicelogreat! i think it's quite decent application now. with clipboard handling added, it gets perfect21:45
siceloand of course, maeotp works on almost any 2FA. i use it for Microsoft services21:57
freemangordonWizzup: yes, as I said, you shall wait for waitable to be ready22:39
freemangordoneither   osso_abook_waitable_call_when_ready() or   osso_abook_waitable_is_ready() and a loop22:39
freemangordonofc  osso_abook_waitable_call_when_ready() is better22:40
arno11Wizzup: thx for your help, my custom plugin works with telepathy with the help of mc-tool :)22:57
arno11even the fb icon appears in hildon availability applet22:59
arno11so it means that mqtt protocol works with telepathy/conversations23:01
lolcatware you also using a nokia n900?23:01
arno11yes23:01
lolcatware we on the same ISO? maybe i will try right now23:01
arno11my iso is really old but up to date with very last stuff23:02
arno11the best option for you atm is pidgin23:02
arno11i can help you if you want23:03
lolcatwi'll try on my own first23:03
freemangordonarno11: hmm, we already  have control panel (accounts-ui) plugin for tp-haze, do you use something different?23:03
lolcatwbut i suppose apt install pidgin should just werk23:03
freemangordonsorry, I missed all the discussion about it23:03
arno11no probs23:04
arno11lolcatw: nope23:04
arno11you need to install pidgin then a custon plugin23:04
arno11*custom23:04
arno11and then add your account23:05
freemangordonah, I see now23:05
freemangordonarno11: I will create accounts-ui plugin once that custom plugin is in the repos23:05
arno11ok really cool23:05
freemangordonwhere is the code?23:05
arno11let me check (not easy from the n900)23:06
freemangordonoh, no hurry23:06
freemangordonwe can continue tomorrow as well23:06
freemangordonit is late here anyway23:07
lolcatwwhat irc client do you people use on the n90023:08
lolcatwshould i just link my account in the settings23:08
freemangordonyou shall wait few more days until Wizzup finishes the conversations23:08
freemangordonI think right now you cannot join a room23:08
arno11yes indeed23:08
arno11freemangordon: yes it's late, better tomorrow23:09
freemangordonok23:09
freemangordonnight!23:09
arno11but it works :)23:09
arno11night23:10
uvosWizzup: https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/commit/d0502de159cabc2acbc6064bdcd1aee0cc1b04c523:12
Wizzupfreemangordon: will have to figure out how to get it in qtloop I guess23:19
Wizzuparno11: care to pr for it?23:19
lolcatwtrying out surf2 browser23:21
lolcatwhas anyone else tried it?23:21
uvosits slow23:21
uvosold firefox-esr (78xx) or jib or qtwebbrowser is mutch better23:22
lolcatwwhich one do you recommend23:22
lolcatwthe most23:22
lolcatwi just need to look at static web pages23:22
uvosi dunno what device you use, on d4 any of those work well altho old firefox is fastest and has the most features, so i use that.23:23
uvoson n900 none of those will work23:23
uvoson n900 nothing will really work23:23
lolcatwi was at least expecting to be able to access 4get homepage ;-;23:24
uvosyou can try jib, but it will most likely be unbreable slow even on simple websites on account of running out of ram23:26
arno11lolcatw: plz try links2 :)23:28
arno11and then run it with links2 -g23:29
lolcatwogey23:29
arno11and then ctl shift N23:29
arno11to disable compo23:29
uvossure links will work23:29
uvosbut its ui is pretty bad on a phone23:29
uvosalso ofc links limits the possible range of websites23:29
arno11works on almost any website actually23:30
arno11but static23:30
arno11ofc23:30
lolcatwfor screenshots, qshot will work correct?23:30
arno11yes it's ok23:31
uvosscrot is mostly more usefull23:31
uvoslike sleep 3; scrot23:31
lolcatwscrot doesnt work with opengl stuff23:31
uvos?23:31
uvosit absolutly works with anything23:31
lolcatwon my machine anyways23:31
arno11Wizzup: for pr, sure23:31
uvossomething is really wierd on your machine23:31
uvosit just uses x11 to get the root window23:32
uvosthis works on anything23:32
uvosall x11 screenshot tools work like this23:32
uvosthere actually isent anything else you could do as non-root23:32

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