libera/#maemo-leste/ Wednesday, 2023-12-20

freemangordonok, FB avatars work as well07:37
arno11freemangordon: really cool10:06
freemangordonok, profile pics resolution is fixed as well, avatars are no longer blurry12:34
ungeskriptetHow usable is maemo with only a touchscreen? Since most devices here have a keyboard15:04
Wizzupnot usable enough yet, the virtual keyboard in qt is missing15:17
Wizzupand this is a Big Problem15:17
Wizzupbut one of the last Big Problems :)15:17
freemangordon:)15:45
freemangordonWizzup: how's conversations going? do you need any help with abook?15:45
freemangordonoh, btw, when logging to rtcom, I think you should log master(if any), not roster contact15:46
freemangordonalso, do we support group chats already?15:47
freemangordonbecause empathy does nto seem to support15:47
freemangordonor tp-haze is broken in that regard15:47
freemangordonok, tp-haze does not support group chats :)16:02
freemangordonseem I will have to implement that16:03
arno11sicelo: sorry just saw your question about bat temp :D usually around 30-35 for me16:07
arno11sicelo: and btw do you still have troubles with voicecall sound ?16:08
arno11(just to be sure i didn't forget something with calls...)16:11
Wizzupfreemangordon: I'm waiting on dsc atm for the group chat ui17:48
WizzupI need to travel home tomorrow for a week so was a bit distracted, but I will get to more of it soon17:48
Wizzupfreemangordon: haze groupchat sounds really great btw17:55
k1r1t0Hello everyone, the Internet does not work on the N900 through a mobile operator. The signal level is normal, the connection indication is present, but mobile data is not available.19:29
buZzk1r1t0: does your provider still offer 2G?19:31
buZzif not, you cant get online with it, afaik19:31
bencoh?19:32
sicelobuZz: the op mentioned 'signal level is normal, the connection indication is present' ... thus it can be safely assumed that their provider has 2G or 3G :-)19:38
siceloarno11: i'll test and let you know19:38
buZzoh, i missed 'connection indication'19:38
buZzif there's a 2G/3G icon, you should be online yeah, maybe APN config is wrong?19:39
k1r1t03.5G indication. I can’t change it to 2G in the settings, the “Save” button is not active. There is an endless process of receiving settings from the operator19:39
sicelowhat does `ip address show` output?19:39
siceloand `ip route show`19:40
k1r1t0Desktop command widget Shows the correct operator address: External IP: 176,111,79,8519:52
k1r1t0[21:46] k1r1t0: user@devuan-n900:~$ ip address show
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: sit0@NONE: <NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN group default qlen 100019:52
Wizzupis this cut off?19:52
k1r1t0No19:53
sicelommm, taken by itself, this says you're not connected to anything19:54
siceloip address show gprs0 ?19:55
k1r1t0[21:59] k1r1t0: user@devuan-n900:~$ ip address show gprs0
10: gprs0: <POINTOPOINT,NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1400 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 10
    link/phonet_pipe 
    inet 10.29.147.137/32 scope global gprs0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever19:59
bencohand `ip route show` ?20:01
k1r1t0No result20:03
k1r1t0Now I noticed the widget gives the correct IP if the mobile connection is not active20:03
buZzi wonder if the ISP might be ipv6 only20:04
bencohI'd highly doubt that20:04
buZzoh, that wont explain a ipv4 address appearing20:04
bencohk1r1t0: you can try adding a default route to gprs0 and see if it helps20:05
bencohsomething like `sudo ip r add default dev gprs0`20:05
bencohbut you shouldn't need that ...20:05
k1r1t0IPv6 is a separate option, I did not connect it20:06
sicelothis is weird, and yes, you don't need to manually add a route anymore. leste handles it correctly20:09
sicelorun the following:20:09
sicelo`busctl tree org.ofono | grep context`, then run:20:11
sicelo`busctl call org.ofono /n900_X/contextY org.ofono.ConnectionContext GetProperties`  (X and Y are from the above command)20:13
k1r1t0[22:13] k1r1t0: user@devuan-n900:~$ sudo ip r add default dev gprs0
user@devuan-n900:~$ ip route show
default dev gprs0 scope link20:13
siceloshow us output of this last command (busctl ...)20:14
arno11btw, maybe k1r1t0 should run /usr/share/ofono/scripts/set-roaming-allowed20:20
siceloofono-scripts exist in all bare image, or require installing?20:21
arno11existing in all img20:21
siceloah,20:21
siceloanyway, it seems they do get an IP ... so unlikely to be a roaming issue (since in that case they shouldn't get an IP until they've first enabled roaming, at least iiuc)20:30
arno11iirc, yes you're right20:32
arno11ah maybe k1r1t0 is not up to date with -devel20:34
siceloah, true! not everything is in stable yet, i suppose20:35
arno11probably20:42
arno11and maybe it's time now to define troubleshooting processes20:42
arno11and steps with probing questions to ask first20:43
k1r1t0_ser@devuan-n900:~$ busctl call org.ofono /n900_2/context1 org.ofono.ConnectionContext GetRoperties20:45
k1r1t0_no result20:45
buZzgetRoperties ? :D20:45
buZzmaybe use GetProperties20:45
Wizzupmaybe start with being up to date with -devel if not already20:46
Wizzupand then try roaming bit20:47
Wizzupand if that's not it, let's debug further20:47
arno11definitely the right way20:47
k1r1t0_ser@devuan-n900:~$ busctl call org.ofono /n900_2/context1 org.ofono.ConnectionContext GetProperties20:47
k1r1t0_a{sv} 10 "Name" s "Internet" "Active" b true "Type" s "internet" "Protocol" s "ip" "AccessPointName" s "internet" "Username" s "" "Password" s "" "AuthenticationMethod" s "chap" "Settings" a{sv} 5 "Interface" s "gprs0" "Method" s "static" "Address" s "10.34.18.1" "Netmask" s "255.255.255.255" "DomainNameServers" as 2 "10.97.52.76" "10.97.52.68" "IPv6.Settings" a{sv} 020:47
siceloah, sorry for the typo :-)20:49
siceloso we're good here. and you've already added the route, correct? (sudo `ip route add default dev gprs0)20:50
sicelonext question is - is the internet working now? it should be (after adding the route)20:50
k1r1t0Every connection needs to be done this way.20:54
siceloso it's working now?20:55
siceloeven though it's manual?20:55
k1r1t0Yes20:56
siceloi scared them off20:57
Wizzupdiff user20:57
siceloah, still here :-)20:57
sicelok1r1t0: so the problem you have has already been fixed in -devel. as Wizzup mentioned, you can upgrade to that, but if you absolutely want to stay with stable, then wait a couple of weeks. i believe there were plans to upgrade stuff in stable soon20:58
k1r1t0_Got it, thank you very much21:03
siceloif you're not ready for -devel, but are feeling super brave, do `dpkg -l libicd-network-ofono libicd-network-ipv4` and store that output somewhere. then download the debs for the upgraded packages. should be safe, i think, since it doesn't look like there were any new deps21:03
siceloif things go south, you can always download the debs corresponding to your saved versions, and all will be ok again21:04
k1r1t0How to add repo-devel21:13
arno11in /etc/apt/sources.list, add:21:26
arno11deb https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste chimaera-devel main contrib non-free  n90021:27
k1r1t0Ok21:27
k1r1t0Need apt dist-upgrade ?21:38
arno11yes, update then dist-upgrade21:56
freemangordonumm, dist-upgrade?23:11
freemangordonwhy?23:11
arno11why not ? :D23:19
Wizzupfreemangordon: it resolves certain conflicts that upgrade does not23:21
Wizzupit's been necessary some times23:21
Wizzupdebian even recommends it I think23:21
Wizzupit doesn't actually mean distribution upgrade23:22
freemangordonyes, but upgrade to -devel should not need it IIUC23:23
freemangordonanyway23:23

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