libera/#neo900/ Tuesday, 2018-11-13

brolin_empey128×64 display != smartphone.  Even a Palm OS computer whose wireless connectivity is limited to infrared has more screen area in pixels.00:55
brolin_empeyA (mobile) telephone with an HDD could literally be a SMARTphone, though.01:16
DocScrutinizer05what do you think of retinking the concept of "smartphone" completely?01:18
DocScrutinizer05I think I elaborated on it a few weeks ago01:18
DocScrutinizer05a pity nobody answered or even just commented on this01:21
DocScrutinizer05TL;DR: you carry the battery and modem(mainboard block in your jacket pocket, you have a BT in-ear headset and you look at the smartwatch and control the device with either the watch's touchscreen or gestures or voice via the headset01:25
pigeonsyeah i like that direction. I don't know if will be a mass preference or not. But this project isn't focusing on preferences of the masses01:27
DocScrutinizer05for games you either connect the mainboard block (MBB) to a nearby TV with a HDMI cable or by WLAN, or you use a VR goggles, or a dedicated Neo display block01:27
brolin_empeyI do not wear anything on my wrists/hands/fingers.  The handheld computer I carry in my pants pocket is my watch.01:27
DocScrutinizer05ok, so how about a "Neo Classic handset" that has display and hw T9 keyboard and audio, with formfactor of a clamshell or candybar featurephone?01:29
DocScrutinizer05ultraqsmall since it doesn't need modem or antenna or any large battery01:29
DocScrutinizer05could be the size of a credit card with a 5mm thickness01:30
DocScrutinizer05e-paper display if we like01:31
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: as I elaborated in ^^^ URL, we need a new concept as the original Neo900 approach is almost unfeasible meanwhile, and not attractive either01:33
DocScrutinizer05for sure we need such a concept for a successor device (STEP2) no matter if we can and will build Neo900 or not01:34
infoboti guess step2 is, or
DocScrutinizer05I also think the classical voice call is 'not fashionable' anymore. Seems people more and more do text, in whatsapp, facebook, twitter etc. Even phonecalls are done using those apps01:36
DocScrutinizer05not saying we should ignore and not support classical carrier switched voicecalls, but the focus seems to have shifted quite a bit01:38
DocScrutinizer05probably the mainstream (I beg I won't be part of it) will rather go  "OK Google, tell my wife I'll be 30 minutes late for dinner"01:39
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: I redd your referenced channel log.  It is interesting.01:41
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: thanks01:45
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: I got the impression that you are not married but I do not know if I actually have anything real to suggest that.01:49
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: one component I forgot to list: docking station: plug in the MBB and have it connected to a classical kb+mouse+monitor+audio+network seat, or alternatively acting as cnetral media player for your home01:49
DocScrutinizer05brolin_empey: ((married, suggest)) hmmm?01:49
brolin_empeyDocScrutinizer05: I meant that I thought you are not married to another person but I do not know if I have anything specific to suggest that you are not married to another person.01:50
DocScrutinizer05is there a particular reason you're asking(?) that?01:52
DocScrutinizer05ooh, "tell my wife"01:53
DocScrutinizer05not married, GF01:53
DocScrutinizer05or part-time single, thanks to this project :-/01:54
OksanaProblem with voice calls is, they often have to be done outside of ear shot of other people, and in a relatively quiet place. Bus/car/train, or an open office space, or a library, don't work well with phone calls.01:55
brolin_empeyOksana: Yes unless you and the other party can speak a language that no one else who can hear you can understand. ;-)01:58
DocScrutinizer05or you do like that woman I seen this afternoon: standing on the pavement, staring at a virtual horizon and shouting "yeah, it already depressed me this morning when he said he'll be late tonight, but that's what it always is now [...] Yeah you're right, this is one of the point... (etc)"01:58
OksanaBad microphone? ;-) And yes, phone calls are best made when walking outdoors - unless traffic is too noisy.01:59
DocScrutinizer0520 years ago the paramedics had fetched her, offering her a nice comfortable jacket. Nowadays it's obviously a normal way top have a phonecall with your phone in handsfree mode in front of your belly01:59
DocScrutinizer05Oksana: you should either linger in channels or check chanlogs, when you post questions ;-D02:01
OksanaDoesn't matter much whether they can understand. Part of point is, not distracting other people who can complain about noisy phone calls. Another part of point is, having a clear phone call without ambient noise making it difficult to hear each other.02:08
brolin_empeyStill no success with USB↔Ethernet adapter on the stock but rooted Android OS 4.4 on brolin-GalaxyNote3. ☹06:49

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