| de-facto | .tr <de RKI Vorstand Wieler: Worauf ich sie auch hinweisen möchte: Es werden zukünftig mehr Varianten auftreten, das ist biologisch sehr plausibel uns je mehr wir impfen desto mehr Varianten werden auch auftreten. | 00:05 |
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| Brainstorm | de-facto, German to English: RKI CEO Wieler: What I would also like to point out to you: There will be more variants in the future, which is biologically very plausible the more we vaccinate the more variants will occur. (MyMemory) [... want %more?] | 00:05 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: EU backtracks on decision to block supply of vaccines to Northern Ireland → https://is.gd/k3yqZ5 | 00:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from FDA Press Releases: FDA: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: January 29, 2021 → https://is.gd/CmxOHd | 00:19 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Lancet (Online): [Articles] Safety and immunogenicity of S-Trimer (SCB-2019), a protein subunit vaccine candidate for COVID-19 in healthy adults: a phase 1, randomised, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial: The SCB-2019 vaccine, comprising S-Trimer protein formulated with either AS03 or CpG/Alum adjuvants, elicited robust humoral and [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/XRxdxC | 00:32 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: Johnson & Johnson Executive Says Vaccine Works Where It Counts: Preventing Deaths: Dr. Paul Stoffels, the chief scientific officer at Johnson & Johnson, tells NPR the company's vaccine is very effective where it matters most: preventing hospitalizations and deaths. → https://is.gd/h83H8A | 00:57 |
| de-facto | Mr Spahn (German healthcare minister) said that it would make sense to buy more doses than needed for making everyone a vaccination offer also to plan for more production capacity than what is required for that from the background of what we see right now: new variants and waning of antibodies could make it necessary to make an "update" vaccination and we dont know when that will be required (or if at all) | 01:06 |
| de-facto | how long will it take until supply satisfies demand globally? years? | 01:08 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: Covid vaccines: Those that work - and the others to come: As two new jabs prove effective, where do we stand with vaccines and the fight back against Covid? → https://is.gd/u8NADH | 01:09 |
| de-facto | interesting: PEI requests from AstraZeneca more data about the older age group for the efficiency | 01:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +4605 cases (now 974066) since 23 hours ago | 01:20 |
| LjL | %title https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-55866715 | 01:41 |
| Brainstorm | LjL: From www.bbc.com: Covid: Argentina imposes new tax on wealthiest - BBC News | 01:41 |
| LjL | apart from the wealthiest, i really think governments should impose taxes on those business that profited more during the pandemic, and use them to support those who had losses | 01:42 |
| LjL | e.g. online retailers made more money than usual, tax them | 01:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Atlantic: What’s the Use of a Pretty Good Vaccine?: Editor’s Note: The Atlantic is making vital coverage of the coronavirus available to all readers. Find the collection here . → https://is.gd/vrjWme | 01:56 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: J&J and Novavax Data (81 votes) | https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/01/29/jj-and-novavax-data | https://redd.it/l7zzh8 | 02:01 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +11 deaths (now 9354) since 10 hours ago | 02:03 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: J&J Covid-19 Vaccine Was 66% Effective in Late-Stage Study (10039 votes) | https://www.wsj.com/articles/j-j-covid-19-vaccine-was-66-effective-in-late-stage-study-11611925201 | https://redd.it/l7s43b | 02:07 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid pandemic ‘gigantic setback’ for progress of humanity, says Bill Gates → https://is.gd/T533ra | 02:08 |
| KREYREN | hmmm.. | 02:32 |
| KREYREN | i wonder what kind of hospital needs a grave yard like 20 m away from it | 02:33 |
| KREYREN | what kind of things are they doing theereee | 02:33 |
| berkchops | IQ is putting on a show | 03:21 |
| berkchops | K N I C K S | 03:21 |
| berkchops | https://twitter.com/nyknicks/status/1355339465997377537 | 03:22 |
| berkchops | woops wrong channel lol sorry | 03:22 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Spain: +20235 cases (now 2.8 million) since 8 hours ago — Saint Lucia: +89 cases (now 1195) since 16 hours ago — Netherlands: +3344 cases (now 975153), +49 deaths (now 13899) since 20 hours ago | 03:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil’s New Covid Strain Raises Big – and Scary – Questions → https://is.gd/XWwKLw | 03:46 |
| LjL | O.o | 03:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India fastest in the world to reach 3 million vaccinations → https://is.gd/ZBhDPz | 04:10 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Israel has voiced concern over US plans to lift sanctions imposed on the International Criminal Court - Israel fears ICC will reopen probe into suspicions of Israeli war crimes against Palestinians in 2014 → https://is.gd/zXRey4 | 04:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: The President of Mexico, Andrés Manuel López Obrador, who is in isolation recovering from covid-19, sent a message using social networks- in which he assures that "we will never lose faith in the future and in the search for a better society. → https://is.gd/cU5RWJ | 04:58 |
| de-facto | i think all the questions arising right now could be answered with the same: we need MUCH more production capacity, many many orders of magnitude more | 05:15 |
| de-facto | what the companies were able to do yet is just unacceptable, way too slow | 05:16 |
| LjL | at this pace it'll take years to have everyone vaccinated... and that's purely theoretical since the variants will cause people to be un-vaccinated if we are not very fast | 05:17 |
| de-facto | i dont care what their reasons are, i only care about production rates and i am sure not enough is done to ramp up production | 05:17 |
| de-facto | on e vaccination probably wont be enough anyhow, it looks like the arising (future) variants would require a vaccination update at some time, maybe even each year | 05:18 |
| de-facto | if we would need 17 billion vaccination doses each year, i am sure demand wont be satisfied by supply anytime soon | 05:18 |
| LjL | i cannot fathom spending years stuck in this situation | 05:19 |
| LjL | if they don't hurry up i'll either get covid or uh i won't | 05:19 |
| de-facto | imho every resource should be invested into production capacity, it has to be made possible at any price | 05:19 |
| de-facto | i still think its a technical problem and *not* a personnel problem | 05:23 |
| de-facto | well even a strategic problem, if every resource would be busy on producing vaccines we would have much more production rates already | 05:24 |
| de-facto | and we are on the lucky side, we also have to produce vaccines for all of the countries without any production capacity or otherwise the evasion mutant variants arising there will be re-imported and our vaccinations here are useless at some point | 05:28 |
| de-facto | with lucky i mean that we have successful vaccine research and production in our control | 05:29 |
| LjL | de-facto, here's another italian's point of view on that matter :\ https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/l7un93/moderna_cuts_deliveries_to_italy_and_france_in/gl9515e/?context=3 | 05:30 |
| LjL | and he gets more upvoted than me | 05:30 |
| de-facto | i think we cant possibly have enough vaccines produced this year (and probably even next year) | 05:31 |
| de-facto | hence there should be more done towards raising production rates | 05:32 |
| de-facto | and we also need a plan, a strategy that assumes total evasion by mutants, how we will deal with that and to integrate that into the vaccine approval and production update cycle | 05:38 |
| de-facto | (total evasion wont happen, but partial we already have seen) | 05:38 |
| de-facto | this is something we need to think about right now in advance, and some (hopefully all?) manufacturers are already at it to some extend | 05:39 |
| de-facto | if they can be trusted to be fast enough with that? i doubt it, hence we should develop a schematic plan for how to deal with this with two main goals: 1) maximize production rates 2) minimize update delay times | 05:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Mexico to import AstraZeneca vaccine from India, president says → https://is.gd/LcR2yc | 05:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Belgium: +2683 cases (now 705120), +36 deaths (now 21018) since a day ago | 06:11 |
| whytek | LjL, wouldn't you like to know if you had Covid already? | 06:12 |
| LjL | whytek: not really, chances are extremely low | 06:13 |
| whytek | So I was thinking the other day about the "it could be worse" line. | 06:14 |
| LjL | I mean if I could get tested for free and without risks... Why not I suppose. But even then, give those tests to people more likely to turn out positive | 06:14 |
| whytek | becasue you know.. people say that kind of thing a lot where I'm originally from. | 06:14 |
| whytek | LjL, on that, I'd really like an antibody test. | 06:15 |
| whytek | Just to know. | 06:15 |
| whytek | but anyway, the worse scenarios I was thinking of: | 06:15 |
| whytek | Mosquitos can spread the virus | 06:15 |
| LjL | Well it's true, it could be worse. But usually that line of thinking just makes me afraid of all the ways it could be worse, instead of making me feel better because it's "not worse yet" | 06:15 |
| whytek | OH yes yes, this is not meant to make you feel better because it's not worse. | 06:16 |
| whytek | it's just a mind journey... | 06:16 |
| whytek | I was thinking about some domestic animal spreading it. | 06:16 |
| whytek | Imagine hoardes of gun toting Americans out with their rifles shooting cats or something. | 06:16 |
| LjL | I think with mosquitoes, chances are low, there is no evidence they carry other coronaviruses. But rats, cats, and other mammals that love close to people are susceptible | 06:17 |
| whytek | OK | 06:17 |
| whytek | yeah, it's not really about reality.. | 06:17 |
| LjL | Well all mink in Denmark have been killed | 06:18 |
| whytek | really? | 06:18 |
| whytek | for covid? | 06:18 |
| whytek | fuck | 06:18 |
| LjL | Not by blood thirsty americans but yes | 06:18 |
| LjL | %wik Cluster 5 | 06:18 |
| Brainstorm | LjL, from English Wikipedia: "Cluster 5", also referred to as ΔFVI-spike by the Danish State Serum Institute (SSI), is, or was, a variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. It was discovered in North Jutland, Denmark, and is believed to have been spread from minks to humans via mink farms. On 4 November 2020, it was [... want %more?] → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_5 | 06:18 |
| whytek | if that's a bot command i have the bots ignore-d | 06:19 |
| whytek | too much noise | 06:19 |
| LjL | Well then just wikipedia it yourself | 06:19 |
| whytek | sure | 06:19 |
| whytek | I see | 06:20 |
| whytek | At least it was not cats, that would be the end for the internet. | 06:20 |
| LjL | Heh | 06:20 |
| whytek | (Oh, I'm trying to be so full of humour tonight) | 06:20 |
| de-facto | afaik SARS-CoV-2 viremia is not so common and an indicator for a severe progression laying ahead, so i dont think that a mosquito would be a primary transmission vector | 06:21 |
| whytek | So is wearing mink fur in fashion again? | 06:24 |
| whytek | "Hey, I'm doing by bit against Corona" | 06:24 |
| whytek | Somehow... all the corona humour comes out dark. | 06:24 |
| whytek | *my | 06:24 |
| de-facto | i also think individual domestic animals susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 are not such a big problem because they usually dont live in herds hence could bread large volumes of viral populations (and therefore mutations), that is on contrast to big herds being infected such as those mink farms that are in close contact to humans, obviously there was enough viral replication going on to give raise to mutations that would jump back to humans again | 06:25 |
| de-facto | .title https://covariants.org/variants/S.Y453F <-- awesome new website from Dr. Emma Hodcroft :) | 06:28 |
| de-facto | LjL, ^^ | 06:28 |
| de-facto | .title https://covariants.org/per-country | 06:29 |
| Brainstorm | de-facto: From covariants.org: CoVariants | 06:29 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: Brazil neighbors limit travel to halt covid strain’s spread → https://is.gd/e2rO4F | 06:36 |
| de-facto | LjL, i think the data is from this here https://github.com/hodcroftlab/covariants/blob/master/web/data/perCountryData.json | 06:59 |
| Brainstorm | New preprint: Disentangling the association of hydroxychloroquine treatment with mortality in Covid-19 hospitalized patients through Hierarchical Clustering by Augusto Di Castelnuovo et al, made available as preprint on 2021-01-29 at https://medrxiv.org/cgi/content/short/2021.01.27.21250238 [... want %more?] | 07:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: EU tightens vaccine export rules, creates post-Brexit outcry → https://is.gd/3NGmoX | 07:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express: World: WHO team visits 2nd Wuhan hospital in COVID-19 investigation → https://is.gd/8TXI6v | 07:14 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +28964 cases (now 3.2 million) since 23 hours ago — United Kingdom: +29112 cases (now 3.8 million), +1247 deaths (now 104472) since 23 hours ago — Lombardy, Italy: +1900 cases (now 534784), +77 deaths (now 27016) since 23 hours ago — Netherlands: +4449 cases (now 976258), +63 deaths (now 13913) since 23 hours ago | 07:38 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Brazil's Covid-19 response worst, New Zealand's best: study → https://is.gd/RlNML7 | 08:27 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Maskless crowds pack Australian Open tennis exhibition in Covid-free Adelaide, As Australia around 13 days covid free. → https://is.gd/kw2c8U | 08:39 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/Coronavirus: Daily Discussion Thread | January 30, 2021: The WHO pages contain up-to-date and global information. Please refer to our Wiki for additional information. → https://is.gd/1aM3un | 09:04 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Brazil neighbors limit travel to halt virus strain's spread: Brazil's neighbors are starting to restrict international travel amid concern about the spread of a new coronavirus variant that experts say may be more contagious and driving a second wave of infections. → https://is.gd/N1XK8u | 10:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: AstraZeneca hit by COVID jab delays and disagreements: Only a few weeks ago, Anglo-Swedish pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca was being applauded for the speed with which it developed its COVID-19 vaccine. → https://is.gd/JlwP7X | 10:52 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Sharp Reductions in COVID-19 Case Fatalities and Excess Deaths in Peru in Close Time Conjunction, State-By-State, with Ivermectin Treatments (82 votes) | https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3765018 | https://redd.it/l8a93d | 11:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: Incredibly proud to have been part of this piece on how public health can tackle emerging #SARSCoV2 variants with @NathanGrubaugh @alexandraphelan @JosephFauver & @mugecevik - a phenomenal group of scientists to work with!Please read Alexandra's wonderful summary below: → https://is.gd/THD4M8 | 11:42 |
| Brainstorm | New from The Indian Express (Health): Life-style: Pandemic hit persons with disabilities hardest, Budget 2021 should address their concerns → https://is.gd/Pls1XK | 11:54 |
| genera | is the paper that brainstorm posted 15 mins ago paywalled? | 11:56 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: There will be enough Covid vaccines for the ‘entire U.S. adult population by June,’ Johnson & Johnson board member says (10065 votes) | https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/29/there-will-be-enough-covid-vaccines-for-the-entire-us-adult-population-by-june-doctor-says.html | https://redd.it/l8bdl2 | 12:53 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Indonesia: +14518 cases (now 1.1 million), +210 deaths (now 29728) since a day ago — Malaysia: +5728 cases (now 209661), +13 deaths (now 746) since a day ago | 13:07 |
| de-facto[m] | genera: if you mean https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(21)00087-8 then no its free access | 13:19 |
| genera | i see only an abstract | 13:22 |
| de-facto[m] | https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2821%2900087-8 | 13:24 |
| genera | ah cool. thanks. | 13:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | re coronabot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin#COVID-19 >>Based on these data, however, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect.[72] Aside from practical difficulties, such high doses are not covered by current human-use approvals of the drug and would be toxic, as the antiviral mechanism of action is considered to operate via the suppression | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | of a host cellular process,[72] specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1.[<< HMMMMM | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | re >>Sharp Reductions in COVID-19 Case Fatalities and Excess Deaths in Peru in Close Time Conjunction, State-By-State, with Ivermectin Treatments<< | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>The indicated biological mechanism of IVM is the same as that of antiviral antibodies generated by vaccines—binding to SARS-CoV-2 viral spike protein, blocking viral attachment to host cells<< [that paper] vs >>the antiviral mechanism of action is considered to operate via the suppression of a host cellular process<< [wikipedia] | 13:41 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: If your PhD students & post-docs can work remotely, please let them, if they want to. Many may be far from family, friends, & partners, unable to visit as they might normally do.This pandemic is hard enough, long enough, & lonely enough. Please be flexible & help them out. → https://is.gd/Dm3pKW | 13:58 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +22 deaths (now 9365) since 23 hours ago | 14:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Study finds that Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro carried out an ‘institutional strategy to spread the coronavirus’ - El País → https://is.gd/VDxEqs | 14:47 |
| Brainstorm | New from BBC Health: EU vaccine export row: Bloc backtracks on controls for NI: It follows a decision to invoke an emergency provision in the Brexit deal in order to control vaccine exports. → https://is.gd/hIcoAN | 15:24 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: Persistent Poor Health Post-COVID-19 Is Not Associated with Respiratory Complications or Initial Disease Severity (82 votes) | https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33413026/ | https://redd.it/l8gh07 | 15:30 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: India distributes one million Covid vaccine doses in just six days → https://is.gd/EREAsm | 15:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from NPR: CDC Issues Sweeping New Mask Mandate For U.S. Travelers; Extends Eviction Moratorium: The new travel order will require passengers to wear face coverings on nearly all forms of public transportation, including airplanes, ships, ferries, trains, subways, buses, taxis and ride-shares. → https://is.gd/mo6k4o | 15:48 |
| Brainstorm | New from This Week In Virology: TWiV 713: COVID-19 clinical update #47 with Dr. Daniel Griffin: In COVID-19 clinical update #47, Daniel Griffin reviews phase 3 results for Novavax and J&J vaccines, transmission in K-12 settings in Wisconsin, data on Lilly and Regeneron monoclonal antibody therapy, and a study of colchicine for treatment of disease. → https://is.gd/vWX7a1 | 16:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>colchicine for treatment of disease<< TF!!?!! what could possibly go wrong? | 16:16 |
| Haley[m] | %cases France | 16:46 |
| Brainstorm | Haley[m]: In France, there have been 3.2 million confirmed cases (4.7% of the population) and 75620 deaths (2.4% of cases) as of 9 hours ago. 43.3 million tests were performed (7.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=France for time series data. | 16:46 |
| Brainstorm | New from Emma Hodcroft: @firefoxx66: http://CoVariants.org is now updated with #SARSCoV2 data up to 29th Jan! The associated focal @nextstrain builds are in the oven - I'll tweet again when they're up.Huge thanks to everyone who has already submitted PRs with additions & improvements! 👏🏻😁 → https://is.gd/CgCFv8 | 16:50 |
| LazySundayDreams | %cases Czechia | 17:00 |
| Brainstorm | LazySundayDreams: In Czechia, there have been 980714 confirmed cases (9.2% of the population) and 16211 deaths (1.7% of cases) as of 7 hours ago. 6.1 million tests were performed (16.0% positive). Fatality can be broadly expected to lie between 0.9% (assuming prevalence as in tests) and less than 1.8% (considering only deaths and recoveries). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Czechia for time series data. | 17:00 |
| Arsanerit | %cases Antarctica | 17:01 |
| Brainstorm | Arsanerit: In Antarctica, there have been 58 confirmed cases (1.4% of the population) and 0 deaths (0.0% of cases) as of a month ago. See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Antarctica for time series data. | 17:02 |
| Arsanerit | Where does it get population figures for Antarctica? | 17:02 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Cuba: +910 cases (now 25674), +3 deaths (now 213) since a day ago — Germany: +11448 cases (now 2.2 million) since 22 hours ago — Netherlands: +4253 cases (now 977890), +76 deaths (now 13966) since 21 hours ago | 17:10 |
| LazySundayDreams | %cases Netherlands | 17:13 |
| Brainstorm | LazySundayDreams: In Netherlands, there have been 977890 confirmed cases (5.6% of the population) and 13966 deaths (1.4% of cases) as of 3 minutes ago. 7.2 million tests were performed (13.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Netherlands for time series data. | 17:13 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/covid19: The SARS-CoV-2 Y453F mink variant displays a striking increase in ACE-2 affinity but does not challenge antibody neutralization (80 votes) | https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.29.428834v1 | https://redd.it/l8eh38 | 17:14 |
| ubLIX[m] | Arsanerit: https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/2209-counting-penguins-from-space | 17:15 |
| Arsanerit | ubLIX[m]: that's more than 58/0.014 penguins :) | 17:16 |
| Arsanerit | But if they can count penguin they can also count humans, if the human's weren't hiding in roofed dwellings all day and all night. | 17:16 |
| maxFlexGuest | The AERobot and its channel operations may be altered due to COVID-19. | 17:17 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Meat-eating creates risk of future pandemic that ‘would make Covid seem a dress rehearsal’, scientists warn → https://is.gd/pUSNIf | 17:27 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for United Kingdom: +27150 cases (now 3.8 million), +1613 deaths (now 104838) since 23 hours ago — Canada: +3784 cases (now 773044), +108 deaths (now 19833) since 22 hours ago | 17:34 |
| rpifan | yes | 17:36 |
| Brainstorm | New from Virological.org: Latest posts: @rfgarry rfgarry: Mutations arising in SARS-CoV-2 spike on sustained human-to-human transmission and human-to-animal passage → https://is.gd/6ODGIC | 17:39 |
| LjL | Uhm... Above study suggests the mink variant may be much more transmissible in humans. If that's the case and considering an unknown number of humans had already been infected before the minks were culled in Denmark, were Danish authorities just magic? | 17:58 |
| LjL | Arsanerit: it gets Antarctica figures from Covidly same as the others | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | >>Meat-eating creates risk of future pandemic...<< only for cannibals? | 18:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: COVID live updates: US surpasses 90,000 deaths in January → https://is.gd/kDukjc | 18:16 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Italy: +12713 cases (now 2.5 million), +421 deaths (now 88279) since 22 hours ago | 18:18 |
| darsie | DocScrutinizer05: No, also if pangolins or other wild animals are caught and dissected under unhygienic conditions. | 18:19 |
| darsie | covid-19 can be transmitted to non cannibals, too. | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aaah point taken | 18:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ☕ | 18:21 |
| darsie | Is that a candle in a jar? | 18:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hotbev aka coffee | 18:21 |
| darsie | ic | 18:21 |
| darsie | bird flu, swine flu. | 18:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aka 12 648 430 | 18:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eeeeew | 18:24 |
| darsie | just to prove I'm in principle ready to kill what I eat. | 18:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | watch out that what you eat doesn't kill you | 18:25 |
| darsie | mhm | 18:25 |
| darsie | I think I'll die. | 18:25 |
| darsie | I baked it very thorougly to make sure it's completely dead. | 18:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess city pigeons are better suited to mine lead and rare earth | 18:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: Covid-19: France closes borders to most non-EU travel → https://is.gd/HQPFv3 | 18:40 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: With world’s highest COVID-19 rate, Portugal has just seven free ICU beds → https://is.gd/5vccmi | 18:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worldnews: Covid-19: Germany closes borders to most non-EU travel | 18:56 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | worldnews: Covid-19: Germany closes borders to Portugal | 18:57 |
| genera | UK, Ireland, Portugal, Brazil, South Africa, Lesotho and Eswatini (according to BBC | 18:58 |
| LjL | About time? | 18:59 |
| genera | https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/de/ReiseUndSicherheit/10.2.8Reisewarnungen dunno | 19:01 |
| Brainstorm | New from Ars Technica: Gaming & Culture: A new $110 light gun for old Duck Hunts: Ars tests an HDTV-friendly option → https://is.gd/NZTqba | 19:05 |
| genera | https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/innenpolitik/einreisesperre-103.html | 19:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Bamlanivimab honestly, who invents such "names"? :-o | 19:12 |
| LjL | de-facto, covariants.org is definitely nice (although i guess most of the information can be gotten from her github repo + nextstrain, but not as easily) but i'm a bit confused as to how they classify "variants". except for 20A.EU1 and 20A.EU2, those are all mutations, classified by mutated site, not variants... so it's a bit of a mixture, if you click on 20A.EU1 it tells you about "Defining mutations", but if you click on any of the others, well, i guess | 19:17 |
| LjL | it's considering the mutation they name as the defining one, and then it actually lists the variants that have it. i guess i get it mostly, but it's not ideal to make people even more confused between the meanings of "variant", "mutation", "strain" etc | 19:17 |
| Arsanerit | The food proposed in a book "food for free" I owned is exclusively vegan. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1421964.Food_for_Free | 19:19 |
| LjL | de-facto, by the way, https://github.com/emmahodcroft/cluster_scripts has disappeared and now points to covariants.org so i guess it's its official successor | 19:24 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Albania: +901 cases (now 77251), +11 deaths (now 1369) since a day ago — Sierra Leone: +146 cases (now 3528) since 23 hours ago | 19:26 |
| Brainstorm | New from https://covid19.specops.network : ljl-covid: Update: Emma Hodcroft's GitHub list of variants is now the dedicated … → https://is.gd/bebqji | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for me https://github.com/hodcroftlab/covariants still exists as a github site | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | getting redirected there from https://github.com/emmahodcroft/cluster_scripts | 19:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: maybe one of the branches, like https://github.com/hodcroftlab/covariants/tree/abandoned/nextstrain-iframe | 19:32 |
| LjL | DocScrutinizer05, yeah that looks like the older thing | 19:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, it's git. the old version still gotta be there somewhere | 19:33 |
| LjL | anyway the new is fine, i'm just saying | 19:33 |
| fr3ek_awy | hi, i tried to join #sex and it put me in ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding. is that normal? | 19:34 |
| fr3ek_awy | i tried to join #casual and it put me in ##unavailable. is that normal? | 19:34 |
| rpifan | no | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | /join #freenode | 19:36 |
| fr3ek_awy | /join freenode | 19:36 |
| fr3ek_awy | love ctl-K | 19:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | fr3ek_awy: taje it elsewhere please | 19:37 |
| fr3ek_awy | DocScrutinizer05 u take it up the a$$! | 19:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | LjL: could you please? | 19:38 |
| fr3ek_awy | DocScrutinizer05 u haz small pen 15! | 19:38 |
| fr3ek_awy | #penis unable to join channel (invite only) | 19:39 |
| fr3ek_awy | - | 19:39 |
| LjL | didn't +q used to suppress quit messages | 19:40 |
| blkshp | I think that's only if they've joined for a short time or joined after being +q'd | 19:40 |
| blkshp | Emphasis on the 'think' | 19:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not sure +q has any effect on quit msg | 19:48 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Guernsey: +44 cases (now 493) since a day ago — Switzerland: +16 deaths (now 9369) since 22 hours ago | 20:03 |
| Brainstorm | New from r/WorldNews: worldnews: 'Sea Prison': COVID-19 Has Left Hundreds Of Thousands Of Seafarers Stranded → https://is.gd/yXtR5y | 20:06 |
| LjL-Matrix | For users joining this room from Matrix on Android, at least those who have apparently been clueless as to the raging news about this: https://paste.ee/p/8he6y Element has been banned from Google Play for unclear reasons | 20:17 |
| de-facto | LjL, i am not sure about the definition of variant in that context, I thought it would be a sequence of supersets a) mutations (e.g. for tracking transmission paths) ⊃ b) variants (mutations with a necessary change of pathogen properties) necessary ⊃ c) strains even more distinguished variants by their phylogenetic tree | 20:18 |
| de-facto | btw i wish they had a dedicated E484K variant on the country page https://covariants.org/per-country because i think its among the most scary ones right now | 20:20 |
| de-facto | they have the notice about double plotting, but still i would prefer to be able to see this separately | 20:21 |
| de-facto | especially because of concerns about importing this since passenger air travel still is not prohibited in Europe | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | .tr <de Update: Inzwischen hat Element eine Antwort von Google bekommen. Es gab wohl auf irgendeinem Server im dezentralisierten Matrix Netzwerk Inhalte, die Google nicht gefallen haben. Man versucht jetzt, Google zu erklären, wie Matrix funktioniert und hofft, dass die App dann wieder online gestellt wird. | 20:25 |
| Brainstorm | DocScrutinizer05, German to English: Update: Element has now received a response from Google. There was content on some server in the decentralized Matrix network that Google didn't like. They are now trying to explain to Google how Matrix works and hoping that the app will then be put back online. (MyMemory) [... want %more?] | 20:25 |
| de-facto | LjL-Matrix, https://element.io/blog/element-on-google-play-store/ | 20:25 |
| LjL | de-facto, thanks | 20:33 |
| de-facto | very weird actually, tbh i dont get the reason for the ban from the playstore | 20:42 |
| LjL | de-facto, my informal understanding is basically they spotted some porn-related rooms (or people complained about them), so now matrix.org is getting rid of those | 20:50 |
| LjL | as they hint though... what's next? banning browsers that *don't* ban websites? | 20:50 |
| LjL | ubLIX[m], ↑ | 20:50 |
| LjL | (of course Google would probably be happy to ban all browsers that aren't Chrome) | 20:51 |
| de-facto | its very very weird | 20:56 |
| de-facto | tbh i dont take the "censorship" claim | 20:56 |
| CoronaBot | 04/r/coronavirus: Covid vaccines are slowing spread of virus already, early study shows (10461 votes) | https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-vaccines-are-slowing-spread-of-virus-already-early-study-shows-lbwwgsvrh/ | https://redd.it/l8n07c | 21:04 |
| ubLIX[m] | LjL? | 21:06 |
| LjL | ubLIX[m]: the whole Element being removed from Play may concern you or or less directly | 21:07 |
| ubLIX[m] | i was just wondering why fr3ek_awy was still in channel but it seems only a vestigial nick on the matrix side | 21:10 |
| LjL | ubLIX[m]: year although they tried pretty hard to keep annoying me in #freenode and in PM | 21:13 |
| LjL | Some people just don't like being banned somehow | 21:13 |
| LjL | Or... They like it a lot | 21:13 |
| ubLIX[m] | hm. saw the matrix/google thing earlier. kinda seems like google testing the waters bit or even just being baldly disruptive | 21:13 |
| ubLIX[m] | saw some speculation the the FOSSDEM conference being a week away makes the timing somewhat eyebrow raising | 21:16 |
| Raf[m] | Best to use Fdroid for banned apps. Element, AdAway, etc | 21:28 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for France: +15791 cases (now 3.2 million), +129 deaths (now 75749) since 19 hours ago | 21:30 |
| LjL-Matrix | Raf: well, sure, except people don't like getting it from F-Droid because releases are delayed. It might not be a big deal to you or me but it's what everyone is complaining about on Twitter | 21:32 |
| LjL-Matrix | Also the whole thing of apps being "bannable", especially when they're just clients to an arbitrary server, unsettles me even of I am not directly affected | 21:32 |
| Raf[m] | Agreed | 21:32 |
| ubLIX[m] | it is a bit disturbing | 21:33 |
| whytek | Raf[m], "Best" to use f-droid for everything. And "better" to put some effort into ensuring that releases are not delayed. Like everything in the FOSS world, better to see how one can contribute, rather than relay on other and then complain. | 22:05 |
| whytek | *rely | 22:05 |
| whytek | I will not be surprised if a general trend of using such FUD as "porn channels" will be used more and more to try to dissuade anything that threatens silicon valley's business model | 22:07 |
| whytek | Covid19 has been really great for tech. | 22:07 |
| whytek | 2020 was an amazing year for the uber rich. | 22:07 |
| whytek | 22:07 | |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: 'COVID effect' leads to fewer heart surgeries, more patient deaths: The most deadly global health crisis in a century has resulted in a substantial decline in overall heart surgery volume and an unexplained increase in deaths after coronary artery bypass grafting, according to late-breaking research presented at the 57th Annual [... want %more?] → https://is.gd/M2OsRG | 22:08 |
| whytek | 's messyness with the Whatsapp privacy agreement roll out may have scared them a little | 22:08 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Netherlands: +3840 cases (now 977906) since 21 hours ago | 22:20 |
| Jigsy | %cases UK | 22:20 |
| Brainstorm | Jigsy: In United Kingdom, there have been 3.8 million confirmed cases (5.7% of the population) and 105571 deaths (2.8% of cases) as of 4 hours ago. 71.7 million tests were performed (5.3% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=United%20Kingdom for time series data. | 22:20 |
| Brainstorm | New from Medical Xpress: Iran expects first batch of Russian vaccine by Feb 4: Iran's ambassador to Russia said Saturday that Tehran expects to receive the first batch of Moscow's Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine by February 4, state news agency IRNA reported. → https://is.gd/UlGRMs | 22:45 |
| Brainstorm | Updates for Switzerland: +16 deaths (now 9370) since 21 hours ago | 23:22 |
| featurive4 | The Netherlands is still shit | 23:29 |
| featurive4 | %cases NL | 23:29 |
| Brainstorm | featurive4: In Netherlands, there have been 977907 confirmed cases (5.6% of the population) and 13967 deaths (1.4% of cases) as of 6 minutes ago. 7.2 million tests were performed (13.5% positive). See https://offloop.net/covid19/?default=Netherlands for time series data. | 23:29 |
| featurive | I really don't get why our cases are going down so slow | 23:31 |
| darsie | Because you're so dense. | 23:38 |
| darsie | pun intended ;) | 23:38 |
| featurive | Perhaps, and it feels like tons of people are not following our measures | 23:49 |
| Brainstorm | New from Shane Crotty: @profshanecrotty: R to @profshanecrotty: 3/ And if you are someone who needs a scary voice about the coronavirus variants to convince family or friends to get vaccinated and mask up, @K_G_Andersen is your man to follow! 🤔🙂🥺😷 → https://is.gd/uFmCqo | 23:59 |
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