| diejuse | Maemo Leste via proot ready to install for all Android 8+ phones | 00:43 |
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| diejuse | https://github.com/diejuse/proot_MaemoLeste_on_Android | 00:43 |
| diejuse | Demo with Blackberry Keyone https://youtu.be/1gHT4MTAo0g | 00:43 |
| Wizzup | how do people make the tar that you have on dropbox? | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | can we put that on github or something? | 00:46 |
| Wizzup | banger music again :D | 00:46 |
| diejuse | I tried to upload on github but small limit | 00:48 |
| Wizzup | there's a lot of things missing that could be nice to have at some point | 00:48 |
| Wizzup | a lot of the conversations stuff, chat stuff, built in browser, notifications, maemo translate, gps maps, email, etc | 00:49 |
| diejuse | no problems with dropbos, downloading with wget without problems | 00:49 |
| diejuse | I have created a first basic image that does not cause problems on Android. | 00:49 |
| Wizzup | yes, but it would be good to have a way to go from a leste image to where you got so that others can reproduce it :) | 00:49 |
| Wizzup | yes, that's great :D | 00:50 |
| Wizzup | very cool though | 00:50 |
| diejuse | For example app manager does not work. You can see the applications in the repository but you can only download them from the terminal with "apt install" | 00:50 |
| diejuse | However, you can install debian apps with synaptic. | 00:51 |
| diejuse | yes, but it would be good to have a way to go from a leste image to where you got so that others can reproduce it :) => I will continue investigating but... it is wonderful that thousands (millions) of Android users can now use a minimum of Maemo Leste, right? | 00:52 |
| diejuse | My dream of anyone going to a store, buying their Android phone (cheap or expensive) and without rooting being able to have a minimum of Maemo Leste in 15 minutes... has been fulfilled! hehe | 00:54 |
| Wizzup | sorry, timed out | 01:17 |
| diejuse | so tomorrow more and better :p | 01:20 |
| Wizzup | great | 01:20 |
| Wizzup | I think from my perspective, what would be really great is reproducability | 01:20 |
| Wizzup | like, how to go from maemo image to proot tar | 01:20 |
| Wizzup | because then we could even automate it | 01:20 |
| diejuse | It would be good but keep in mind that proot has quite a few limits and you have to do a lot of workarounds or transform several things about Maemo Leste. | 01:21 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 01:22 |
| diejuse | Example: "app manager" from Maemo. Dummy networks doesn't work. Other app managers like Synaptic do work. The only solution is for maemo's "app manager" to have less complexity and be a simple graphical "apt install". | 01:23 |
| diejuse | I couldn't get OMP to work either. I will investigate but I think the problem is that the way it works is not compatible with using proot. | 01:25 |
| diejuse | I don't know if you have a phone with Android 8 or higher but I would like you to try it, if you have time. | 01:26 |
| Wizzup | I think it likely has to do with perhaps not running run-parts on xsession | 01:27 |
| Wizzup | (OMP) | 01:34 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: I think maybe what happens is that pcsuite is only entered when you click the pc suite button | 01:44 |
| Wizzup | I would suggest we always go for pcsuite for now | 01:44 |
| Wizzup | for example is touchscreen doesn't work | 01:45 |
| Wizzup | for example if* | 01:53 |
| Wizzup | (agreed)? | 01:55 |
| Wizzup | also I did check that this is indeed the case btw, if I click 'pc suite' I do get usb net, but normally I don't | 01:56 |
| Wizzup | this is annoying when mz617 ts doesn't work on boot | 01:56 |
| Wizzup | (having to get a serial out every time is a pain) | 01:56 |
| arno11 | diejuse: awesome work man, able to run maemo proot pretty well on a redmi note 12 (android 14) | 13:23 |
| diejuse | @arno11 Great! Thanks for letting me know. If you can, share an image. | 14:00 |
| arno11 | diejuse: https://pasteboard.co/Y0Z99HEsULUh.png | 15:37 |
| arno11 | https://pasteboard.co/H9MqwqRaSAeA.png | 15:40 |
| arno11 | indeed, the proot leste img is a bit light/basic for the moment but it should be not too complicated to add lot of stuff imo :) | 15:42 |
| arno11 | that's really funny/amazing to run leste on android 14 | 15:45 |
| diejuse | arno11 cool, Yes, I tried to make it as basic as possible so that it was light in megabytes and so that everyone could install what they want :) | 15:45 |
| diejuse | Yes, it is! | 15:45 |
| sicelo | where are the instructions btw? :-) | 15:46 |
| diejuse | It is also amazing to install it on phones as closed (impossible to root) as the blackberry key | 15:46 |
| sicelo | don't know if my poor Samsunga A03s can manage it. | 15:46 |
| sicelo | or even S7 | 15:46 |
| arno11 | https://github.com/diejuse/proot_MaemoLeste_on_Android | 15:46 |
| diejuse | Only neeed Android 8 or more | 15:46 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: what do you think about my ke-recv comments | 15:47 |
| diejuse | sicelo It will work on both. They are more powerful phones than my old Blackberry Key1. | 15:48 |
| sicelo | Wizzup: i'll look. last few days i've been stuck on some other RL stuff | 15:49 |
| Wizzup | it's just re: usbnet | 15:49 |
| Wizzup | it does work, but it works only if you press 'pc suite' button | 15:50 |
| Wizzup | but in case you have no touchscreen or something, you can't do that ,and it's useless | 15:50 |
| Wizzup | so I'm thinking we should enter usbnet mode by default | 15:50 |
| sicelo | i *think* it was working without touching on my N900 ... the TS is broken on that N900 | 15:54 |
| sicelo | but sure, I don't see a problem with doing usbnet by default. it makes perfect sense, especially for alpha/beta where we are :-) | 15:55 |
| Wizzup | I think we used to automatically load it through some init script | 15:56 |
| Wizzup | ok cool | 15:56 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: sicelo: i think it should be useful to add diejuse chroot/proot stuff in Leste wiki or just a gh link (ofc if diejuse is ok with that) | 15:59 |
| Wizzup | I mean, yes, but it would be nice if it was reproducible and people could make their own build(s), so they know how it works | 16:00 |
| Wizzup | and yes, feel free to add it to the wiki | 16:00 |
| arno11 | ok cool, and yes the challenge is to make it reproducible indeed | 16:02 |
| diejuse | Wizzup Ok for me. sicelo let me know when it's added | 16:37 |
| diejuse | I meant @arno11 | 16:53 |
| sicelo | diejuse: you can add it yourself | 17:00 |
| diejuse | sicelo Good but let @arno11 add it since he offered to do it. | 17:03 |
| Wizzup | well that ke-recv change didn't work | 17:44 |
| Wizzup | mz617 does complain it doesn't have configfs on 6.6, but it still works it seems | 17:44 |
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