| Wizzup | -devel users, conversations is now default for sms on -devel, and sphone will use the voicecallmanager module | 00:05 |
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| Wizzup | everything should just work, but who knows | 00:05 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: can't receive sms :( and call worked just one time (outgoing) and the next time sound was not working | 10:54 |
| arno11 | i'll have a look to provide you more details | 10:55 |
| Wizzup | arno11: did you reboot after upgrade? | 11:07 |
| arno11 | yes ofc | 11:13 |
| Wizzup | if you open conversations you don't see the sms in it? | 11:15 |
| arno11 | sms tab appears, but nothing inside | 11:15 |
| arno11 | *when i send a sms to the device | 11:16 |
| Wizzup | hm, ok | 11:17 |
| Wizzup | telepathy-ring and voicecall manager are running? | 11:18 |
| arno11 | yes they're still running | 11:21 |
| arno11 | i'm still able to take/make calls but without sound | 11:22 |
| arno11 | *btw | 11:22 |
| arno11 | ah and ringtone works better than previously | 11:23 |
| arno11 | and i can't hangup a call from sphone | 11:26 |
| Wizzup | nothing changed sound wise for sure | 11:26 |
| Wizzup | I wonder if some of this has to do with the n900 resources somehow | 11:27 |
| Wizzup | I send a bunch of sms and did some calls yesterday and it seemed to all work on several devices | 11:27 |
| arno11 | ok | 11:27 |
| Wizzup | just tried on bionic and it's fine at least | 11:28 |
| Wizzup | when you call, you are using the ring backend yeah? | 11:28 |
| Wizzup | not like xmpp or sip | 11:28 |
| arno11 | yup, the ring backend | 11:28 |
| arno11 | btw i can't select sip or xmpp | 11:31 |
| Wizzup | what doesn't work for me (on n900 only) is selecting a contact and then saying call or sms | 11:31 |
| Wizzup | btw does speaker phone work on n900? | 11:31 |
| arno11 | you mean during call ? | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | called myself using my n900 leste to n900 fremantle and I got audio | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | on the handset | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | hangup works for me at least | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | let me try calling leste | 11:32 |
| arno11 | ok weird | 11:32 |
| arno11 | ok | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | I mean I'm not saying they're your bugs :D | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | just trying to reproduce | 11:32 |
| arno11 | :) yes try incoming on leste | 11:32 |
| Wizzup | it does look like maybe the call hangup didn't work correctly as you said, I see another 'active' call | 11:33 |
| arno11 | ah | 11:33 |
| Wizzup | still even with that ,I can pick up and sound works | 11:33 |
| Wizzup | but yes, hangup is weird somehow | 11:33 |
| arno11 | when you picked up the call, the screen was on or off ? | 11:36 |
| Wizzup | on | 11:36 |
| arno11 | ah ok, mine was off | 11:36 |
| Wizzup | will try with off | 11:37 |
| Wizzup | and you say sms does not work at all? | 11:37 |
| arno11 | because sphone was very slow to show the ui | 11:37 |
| Wizzup | hm? | 11:38 |
| arno11 | (sms doesn't work at all ) | 11:38 |
| Wizzup | I'm going to need some logs I think, but my n900 is -slow- atm | 11:39 |
| arno11 | slow ? | 11:39 |
| arno11 | weird | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | responsiveness | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | in any case sms (perhaps unsurprisingly) works ok for me | 11:39 |
| Wizzup | but there is no vibration or lock screen notification atm (which is a known bug) | 11:40 |
| arno11 | ok | 11:40 |
| arno11 | weird we have so much diff | 11:40 |
| Wizzup | *shrug* computers and software are hard :D | 11:40 |
| arno11 | :) | 11:41 |
| Wizzup | I do notice something odd, but I don't know if that is a conversations bug or not | 11:41 |
| arno11 | ok let me reboot and try again | 11:42 |
| arno11 | bbl | 11:42 |
| Wizzup | I do see something weird country prefixes, like 0031 vs +31 on conversations | 11:46 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: now i'm able to reproduce the call bug: they work fine excepting during incoming, if the caller hangup the call | 12:40 |
| arno11 | i need to pkill sphone to hangup and then calls work again | 12:40 |
| arno11 | otherwise sound is broken | 12:41 |
| arno11 | (as you said, because the previous call is still active) | 12:42 |
| arno11 | still not able to receive sms btw | 12:42 |
| Wizzup | ok, that is some progress, I'll try to see what happens wrt hangup | 12:46 |
| Wizzup | have you tried sending a sms? | 12:46 |
| arno11 | let me try again | 12:47 |
| arno11 | it says 'unable to perform operation' (from contacts app) | 12:48 |
| arno11 | weird, it was a bit different before reboot (no error msg) | 12:49 |
| arno11 | same error if i try to call from contacts app | 12:50 |
| Wizzup | ok, I also get that, but only on n900 | 12:52 |
| arno11 | ok | 12:52 |
| Wizzup | I'll have to debug how/why that happens | 12:53 |
| arno11 | btw sms are still visible using ofono scripts (monitor-ofono) | 12:53 |
| arno11 | ok | 12:53 |
| Wizzup | yeah I'm sure they' | 12:53 |
| Wizzup | re coming in, I think maybe they just don't show in your conversations | 12:53 |
| Wizzup | as in I think they are in the rtcom db, but I am not sure | 12:53 |
| arno11 | ah maybe | 12:53 |
| Wizzup | I need to see what the latest conversations release is | 12:53 |
| Wizzup | my d4 probably has some custom built one | 12:54 |
| Wizzup | sorry if this is interrupting your work btw, you can downgrade by leaving devel and reinstall the pkgs | 12:54 |
| Wizzup | but we need to find these bugs one way or another :) | 12:54 |
| Wizzup | you have conversations 0.6.4 I imagine? | 12:54 |
| arno11 | 0.6.4+m7.1 | 12:57 |
| arno11 | (let me check if sms are in the rtcom db) | 13:00 |
| arno11 | ah the el-v1.db file is corrupted | 13:08 |
| arno11 | can't even open it with my computer (an old one works) | 13:10 |
| Wizzup | uhh | 13:11 |
| Wizzup | what is your computer running? | 13:11 |
| arno11 | ubuntu | 13:11 |
| Wizzup | ok | 13:12 |
| arno11 | and db's from my previous install work | 13:12 |
| Wizzup | well for the first time on my d4 I was unable to answer too | 13:13 |
| arno11 | (when i say 'an old one', i mean an old db) | 13:13 |
| Wizzup | huh weird | 13:13 |
| arno11 | (for d4) ah | 13:14 |
| Wizzup | yeah been using this for weeks and weeks | 13:16 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: last question, do the db will be generated again automatically if i delete it ? | 13:31 |
| Wizzup | yes, but I have never see nit get corrupted | 13:35 |
| arno11 | ok, thx | 13:36 |
| uvos__ | if converstaions can do the sms ringing you can just leave sms enabled in sphone but not load the ui | 15:35 |
| Wizzup | no, it will make the sms notifications soon enough | 15:35 |
| uvos__ | sphone will then play the sound and kick libnotify but do nothing else | 15:35 |
| Wizzup | it's been on my todo list for a bit | 15:38 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: ok so the sms issue was the corrupted db (probably something wrong when playing with half-working plugins like skype...) | 15:39 |
| arno11 | now it's ok with a fresh db | 15:39 |
| arno11 | receiving/sending | 15:39 |
| arno11 | through conversations ofc | 15:39 |
| Wizzup | hmm | 15:39 |
| Wizzup | yeah I think this is the group uid stuff | 15:40 |
| Wizzup | (I still need to update the sphone group_uids for calls) | 15:40 |
| dsc_ | Wizzup: want me to make a new conversations version with latest master? | 15:40 |
| dsc_ | most recent in repos is from 2 months ago | 15:41 |
| dsc_ | or ehm, maybe im not looking correctly | 15:41 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: the call 'hangup' issue is still there but that's easy to solve, killing sphone and launching it again | 15:42 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: if i nuke ring and vcm conversations will otherwise work fine right? | 15:42 |
| uvos__ | since i want to stick with sphone-ofono indefinately | 15:42 |
| Wizzup | yes but the rtcom meta pkg depends on it | 15:44 |
| Wizzup | arno11: I mean I'll solve it in the code, but it's not there on my d4 and bionic so that's annoying | 15:45 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: so perhaps we'd have to make meta pkg so you can choose or something | 15:46 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: ok, yes indeed | 15:48 |
| arno11 | bbl | 15:48 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: maybe you also have an idea on how to hide the sphones sms related .desktop files | 15:50 |
| Wizzup | it could become a separate sphone pkg | 15:57 |
| Wizzup | that would be easiest, where you have sphone-ofono that contains these | 15:58 |
| Wizzup | they could be dpkg-diverted by that's ehhhhh | 15:58 |
| uvos__ | well sphone-sms maybe | 15:58 |
| uvos__ | since it has nothing to do with ofono persay | 15:59 |
| Wizzup | right | 15:59 |
| Wizzup | I'm preparing to travel tomorrow but I'll get on some of the bugs today and on sunday | 16:03 |
| sicelo | sphone sms related. desktop files ... why are they there in the first place? or the question is in connection with having conversations? | 16:03 |
| uvos__ | ? | 16:05 |
| uvos__ | because sphone supports sms | 16:05 |
| sicelo | why hide them? | 16:05 |
| uvos__ | because now sphones sms features are broken | 16:05 |
| uvos__ | because ring breaks ofono | 16:06 |
| uvos__ | and vcm dosent support sms | 16:06 |
| sicelo | ok | 16:06 |
| uvos__ | so sphone cant serve sms on leste anymore | 16:06 |
| uvos__ | with the default packages installed | 16:06 |
| uvos__ | but ofc i dont want to remove the .desktop files either | 16:07 |
| uvos__ | since its only broken beyond sphones controll on the specifc setup leste uses | 16:07 |
| uvos__ | remove from the package entrely that is | 16:08 |
| Wizzup | I think it's probably quite simple to split it up, you just need to make a debian/sphone-sms.install file | 16:10 |
| Wizzup | you might have to make debian/sphone.install too, not sure | 16:10 |
| Wizzup | uvos__: does sphone log to syslog? | 16:12 |
| Wizzup | it might be useful to do able to see sphone log when it's started through xsession | 16:13 |
| uvos__ | Wizzup: no but it essentally can | 16:14 |
| uvos__ | https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/blob/d0dea784e1d809777b03387e1be66837dede4ced/src/sphone.c#L541 | 16:14 |
| uvos__ | just set SPHONE_LOG_SYSLOG here | 16:14 |
| uvos__ | if you like you could add a flag for this | 16:14 |
| Wizzup | yeah, I think we would probably want this, because then for example I could ask arno11 for logs if he can't hangup | 16:16 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: few more things: incoming notifications work with sip msg's, in fact sip msg works perfectly :) | 17:48 |
| arno11 | able to make/take sip calls with no sound of course | 17:48 |
| arno11 | ucm profile switch doesn't work btw so impossible to get audio sync | 17:49 |
| arno11 | but even switching profile by hand, it still doesn't work | 17:49 |
| arno11 | ah, in fact outgoing doesn't work. i wonder if stun and other stuff are ok (?) | 17:52 |
| arno11 | because it works for incoming | 17:52 |
| arno11 | no issue with hangup using sip btw | 17:54 |
| arno11 | and PA source/sink threads don't start during sip call | 17:58 |
| arno11 | that's all i know for the moment. Huge improvement with conversations anyway :) | 17:59 |
| arno11 | (ah and sending sms to a new contact works fine) | 18:00 |
| Wizzup | arno11: yes but the incoming msg notifications only work if conversations is not open | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | arno11: I haven't gotten sip audio to work at all so far | 18:03 |
| Wizzup | 17:53 < arno11> because it works for incoming | 18:04 |
| Wizzup | you got any audio at all?? | 18:04 |
| arno11 | nope, just answering and hangup | 18:07 |
| Wizzup | ah ok | 18:07 |
| Wizzup | yeah there's a lot to figure out theres still | 18:07 |
| Wizzup | I haven't really messed with the options in the rtcom accounts ui, but I wouldn't necessarily expect the problem to just be of the nature of finding the right settings | 18:08 |
| Wizzup | for example, I need to fix the module to deal with some subtle differences compared to regular calls, there seem to be additional states | 18:08 |
| arno11 | ok | 18:08 |
| Wizzup | maybe I just didn't get the right sdcard for my n900 yet but I still find the performance abysmal | 18:09 |
| Wizzup | but I also don't overclock it yet I guess | 18:09 |
| Wizzup | maybe abysmal is not the right word, but not ... great :) | 18:09 |
| arno11 | weird, even with stock freqs it works fine | 18:09 |
| arno11 | (even compared to my redmi with proot btw) | 18:10 |
| arno11 | *it should work fine | 18:10 |
| freemangordon | same here (bad performance) | 18:11 |
| arno11 | ah | 18:11 |
| freemangordon | and iirc uSD card is fast | 18:12 |
| dsc_ | can I disable maemo's styling of QPushButton somehow? https://a.uguu.se/OULebVhu.png | 18:13 |
| dsc_ | should look like: https://a.uguu.se/NOzwMNje.png | 18:13 |
| freemangordon | dsc_: I wonder on what device do you test | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | d4? | 18:14 |
| dsc_ | freemangordon: this screenshot is from QEMU, but for physical testing I use d4 | 18:15 |
| dsc_ | the reason I use VNC is unrelated | 18:15 |
| freemangordon | yeah, but the question is - how useful are such a tiny buttons on small screen? | 18:16 |
| freemangordon | anyway | 18:17 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: your N900 was working well previously with leste or never ? | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | never | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | well, it is not that it cannot be used | 18:18 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: the buttons aren't that tiny | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | ok | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | arno11: just... way slower than on fremantle | 18:18 |
| freemangordon | visibly slower | 18:19 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: not the same for me, weird | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | not sure if it is because of slow storage or soemthing else | 18:19 |
| freemangordon | partially could be because the digitizer has issues | 18:19 |
| arno11 | really don't know | 18:20 |
| dsc_ | fixed it, also touch area will be sufficient, if not - easy to tweak | 18:22 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: yesterday evening i compared my N900 with my redmi with proot, navigating and starting apps, and it was pretty similar (excepting time needed to start qt5 apps ofc) | 18:24 |
| Wizzup | hm, ok | 18:24 |
| Wizzup | I find like sometimes if I press say a chat in conversations it takes seconds to open the chat | 18:25 |
| Wizzup | and this is true for other programs too | 18:25 |
| sicelo | how to get more verbose output or logs from the image builder (running locally) | 18:26 |
| arno11 | ah yes, conversations is slower now to start and open chat, indeed, and all qt5 apps | 18:26 |
| sicelo | for example, i'm just playing with building n900 image, and i'm getting https://paste.debian.net/1309925/ | 18:27 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: what commands precede the build_arm_dist | 18:28 |
| Wizzup | the image builder uses this | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | E: Couldn't find these debs: usr-is-merged | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | err | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | zsh -f -c 'source sdk && load devuan n900 maemo && export compiler=arm-none-eabi- && build_arm_dist' || exit 1 | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | you can make that separate, so: | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | zsh -f | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | source sdk | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | etc | 18:29 |
| Wizzup | but you need to cd arm-sdk first for that | 18:30 |
| sicelo | i was doing it all manually, per https://leste.maemo.org/Image_Builder | 18:30 |
| sicelo | and yes i'm in arm-sdk dir | 18:30 |
| sicelo | looks to me like it runs fine, just fails on that `usr-is-merged` package. i have an idea what the package is about, but would be nice to know why it's being asked for here (i think it's a new thing) | 18:31 |
| dsc_ | Wizzup: latest stuff in jib now | 18:34 |
| dsc_ | are people here using latest master @ conversations? | 18:35 |
| dsc_ | because version in repos is a bit old | 18:35 |
| Wizzup | no, 0.6.4 is in -devel | 18:35 |
| Wizzup | I wanted to see if I could fix up the group chat ui a bit and take a look at a few of the things you talked about | 18:36 |
| dsc_ | ok | 18:36 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: new jib looks pretty great imo | 18:36 |
| sicelo | maybe it's the debootstrap ... https://github.com/MerlijnWajer/libdevuansdk/blob/a75b38eed7c3c6ba20e3524f9722000c6e11f65f/zlibs/bootstrap#L60-L64 | 18:36 |
| dsc_ | yeah works well, if I may say so myself :p | 18:36 |
| Wizzup | does it do portrait? | 18:36 |
| dsc_ | no... | 18:36 |
| dsc_ | actually I dont know. It might. | 18:37 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: on usr-is-merged, I don't really remember this problem | 18:37 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: doesn't look like it on my d4 atm, would a sweet improvement | 18:37 |
| sicelo | since i can see the "Running stage1 debootstrap" stuff on line 58, but i clearly don't get to line 70 | 18:37 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: are you on debian? | 18:37 |
| sicelo | yes, debian sid | 18:37 |
| Wizzup | I wonder if that has something to do with it | 18:38 |
| sicelo | https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge | 18:38 |
| Wizzup | did you read the README in arm-sdk ? | 18:38 |
| sicelo | i was thinking this debootstrapping is happening in a chroot or similar? | 18:39 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: and you're sure it's picking up the chimaera image and all? | 18:39 |
| sicelo | how could i verify? otherwise the commands from wiki work fine, up to this point | 18:39 |
| Wizzup | using grep I see: | 18:39 |
| Wizzup | arm-sdk/lib/libdevuansdk/zlibs/bootstrap: --exclude=usr-is-merged \ | 18:39 |
| Wizzup | but I have never seen this error I think | 18:40 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: huh wait | 18:40 |
| sicelo | the debootstrap log has "2024-02-12 21:39:57 URL:https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera/InRelease [33520/33520] -> "/home/sicelo/Git/leste/image-builder/arm-sdk/tmp/devuan-armhf-build/bootstrap/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/pkgmaster.devuan.org_merged_dists_chimaera_InRelease" [1]" | 18:40 |
| Wizzup | what is your arm-sdk head | 18:41 |
| Wizzup | I feel like you're using something else to build | 18:41 |
| Wizzup | what I do is clone image-builder | 18:41 |
| sicelo | let me start from scratch then :-) | 18:41 |
| Wizzup | git and update the submodules | 18:41 |
| Wizzup | did you clone arm-sdk and friends separately, or? | 18:41 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: ha wait | 18:42 |
| Wizzup | Unstaged changes | 18:42 |
| Wizzup | + --exclude=usr-is-merged \ | 18:42 |
| sicelo | heh, forgot to commit? | 18:42 |
| Wizzup | I guess so, but it didn't seem to affect our image builder | 18:42 |
| Wizzup | 2mins | 18:44 |
| Wizzup | sicelo: please pull image-builder master and update submodules | 18:48 |
| uvos | dsc_: you can use the style override in env to get rid of maemo theme (which will get rid of the styled buttons) | 18:49 |
| uvos | dsc_: for a fully self-styled app you can also do so in source | 18:49 |
| Wizzup | I think he wants the rest of the style to be maemo | 18:49 |
| Wizzup | just the buttons looked bad | 18:49 |
| uvos | you can override specific style elements | 18:50 |
| uvos | but i cant remember the api of the top of my head | 18:50 |
| Wizzup | I think he solved the problem already | 18:50 |
| sicelo | Wizzup: thanks. there's progress now | 18:54 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: freemangordon: i'm currently uploading a video on dropbox showing how it works on my N900. it was 2 months ago with (very) low transitions effects and a bit of overclock. (805MHz iirc) | 19:06 |
| Wizzup | great, ty | 19:39 |
| Wizzup | I don't have the transitions changes I think | 19:39 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: it might be that arno11 has boost on and disabled 250mb | 19:46 |
| Wizzup | 250mhz | 19:46 |
| Wizzup | I just did that as well | 19:46 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/psjbg34qerlki0r4llm7v/maemo-leste-demo.mp4?rlkey=pbam48hotpruaab30btbxl9u3&dl=0 | 19:48 |
| arno11 | even with no boost and 250MHz it works quite well btw | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | downloading | 19:51 |
| arno11 | you can stream it i think | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | prefer download :) | 19:51 |
| sicelo | how large is the file? | 19:52 |
| arno11 | ok :) 300MB | 19:52 |
| Wizzup | ha yeah the transitions make a big difference | 19:52 |
| Wizzup | at least in your video | 19:52 |
| arno11 | yeah i know | 19:53 |
| arno11 | you'll see how it stays responsive even with pscx running | 19:55 |
| Wizzup | under i/o load it goes super slow for me | 19:58 |
| arno11 | ah ok | 19:59 |
| arno11 | it was like that on my device with a slow sd | 19:59 |
| arno11 | should be interesting to benchmark yours | 20:00 |
| Wizzup | how do you benchmark it? | 20:01 |
| arno11 | using dd usually | 20:02 |
| Wizzup | read speed, write speed? | 20:02 |
| arno11 | both | 20:02 |
| arno11 | 2 min | 20:02 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: shall we pull in https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/40 ? | 20:04 |
| arno11 | Wizzup: this one is a bit too much | 20:06 |
| arno11 | transitions are completely disabled | 20:07 |
| Wizzup | ah | 20:08 |
| arno11 | i have another one file with just lighter transitions (50ms most of the time instead of 250) and keeping effects and zoom | 20:09 |
| Wizzup | which is the one in your video | 20:09 |
| arno11 | the 'hardcore' one | 20:10 |
| arno11 | you can try it if you want, the very light one is in my dropbox | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | I just installed it yeah | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | It seems ifne | 20:14 |
| arno11 | ok cool | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | but yeah maybe not best for default | 20:15 |
| arno11 | indeed | 20:15 |
| Wizzup | there was also this cssu tool to tweak the transitions | 20:15 |
| Wizzup | I don't know if I packaged it for chimaera too | 20:15 |
| arno11 | you should reboot btw | 20:15 |
| Wizzup | I did pkill hildon-desktop | 20:15 |
| Wizzup | is mor ODerequired? | 20:15 |
| Wizzup | is more required | 20:15 |
| arno11 | ok should be enough | 20:16 |
| Wizzup | the delay in opening the status menu also seems gone then | 20:16 |
| arno11 | yes indeed | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | well that *is* good to know, that means the slowness in opening status menu on say d4 is not related to the status applet itself | 20:17 |
| arno11 | yes | 20:17 |
| diejuse | Wizzup arno11 I'm glad you're focused on reducing the slowness of transitions. :) | 20:21 |
| diejuse | arno11 How smooth everything works in your video! | 20:25 |
| arno11 | :) | 20:30 |
| arno11 | the type of uSD card in use has a huge impact as well (excepting for loading stuff on boot) | 20:32 |
| arno11 | dinner time | 20:32 |
| Wizzup | I did think I bought an expensive microsd for the n900 | 20:35 |
| diejuse | arno11 If you have some time, I would like you to try making OMP work on your Xiaomi. Now I'm not the only one who uses proot. | 20:42 |
| Wizzup | diejuse: I'm sure making OMP work is easy assuming you start the right processes | 20:44 |
| Wizzup | at this point it's not clear to me how this works, but if you can make a 'diff' of changes made from a regular image to your image, and what is started and how, then I could take a look and help | 20:44 |
| diejuse | Wizzup I have what you say in mind but it is not easy. That's why it's good for me to let arno11 try some things since he will have more knowledge of how Maemo Leste works than I do. | 20:47 |
| diejuse | I have tried converting some more modern images to proot but I have not had success. The base with which I made chroot and also proot is https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/arm64-generic/20200114/maemo-leste-1.0-arm64-raspi3-20200114.tar.gz Other images have given me problems that I don't know how to solve. | 20:50 |
| diejuse | But hey, in any case, you should know that I have the same interest as you in knowing how to convert any more modern image into root.:) | 20:51 |
| arno11 | diejuse: yesterday i had a look at your maemo launch script and if i understand correctly, you can't load more stuff because of 'permission errors', is that correct ? | 20:57 |
| arno11 | btw i've been able to dist-upgrade the proot img to chimaera-devel and install conversations. but as Wizzup said previously, lot of stuff from xsession are missing | 21:01 |
| freemangordon | arno11: looks smooth, however, I want to see the scrolling in addressbook and modest | 21:02 |
| freemangordon | because clutter stuff is ok, no doubt | 21:02 |
| arno11 | and btw iirc we should try another version of proot with a specific flag to avoid permissions error | 21:02 |
| arno11 | freemangordon: scrolling in modest is not bad, not really smooth but fast | 21:03 |
| freemangordon | so, my sd here is sandisk exterme 128 A2 | 21:03 |
| freemangordon | that one should be ok, no? | 21:03 |
| arno11 | should be fine indeed | 21:04 |
| freemangordon | for sure latest DDX fixes made huge diff | 21:04 |
| arno11 | yeah ! | 21:05 |
| freemangordon | but still we are not in par with fremantle, at least I feel it like that | 21:05 |
| arno11 | specially with emulators and video playing | 21:05 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 21:05 |
| freemangordon | maybe we lack some optimisation in GTK | 21:05 |
| arno11 | maybe but you run Fremantle with thumb ? | 21:05 |
| freemangordon | sure | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | I am the one with cssu-thumb, would be stupid to not use it :) | 21:06 |
| arno11 | lol indeed | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | but we use thumb on leste as well | 21:06 |
| sicelo | no, we don't | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | umm, what? | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | how's that | 21:06 |
| freemangordon | ? | 21:06 |
| sicelo | D4 doesn't like it | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: wait, wait | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | this is not thumb kernel | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | we *do not* run thumb kernel on fremantle either | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | it is aboutu userland | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | *about | 21:07 |
| sicelo | ah, ok. thought you meant the kernel | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | no | 21:07 |
| freemangordon | arno11: ok, these days I will put that uSD in my daily device, to see if working digitizer makes any difference | 21:08 |
| freemangordon | arno11: so, if you find time and will to check if we have some slowness in GTK, I will owe you yet another beer :) | 21:10 |
| arno11 | ok lol | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | diejuse: still, great job with leste on android, people are waiting for appstore installer :) | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | no, really, I was asked about that | 21:11 |
| Wizzup | it seems to me that even just using rsync -nav to check what files are different might be of a huge help | 21:12 |
| Wizzup | or start with find on both and then vimdiff | 21:13 |
| diejuse | @freemangordon hehe,thank you so much | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | we kinda left PR on the background lately, but having leste installable in android appstore could potentially bring new devs to help | 21:16 |
| diejuse | it still needs more progress | 21:21 |
| diejuse | @arno11 many problems about /proc /sys ... | 21:22 |
| diejuse | yes permission denied to access to several files | 21:22 |
| diejuse | conveesations worked? | 21:22 |
| diejuse | @freemangordon that for now I will add instructions in my githib to add am icon to lauch Maemo Leste easily | 21:36 |
| arno11 | diejuse: i need to try to add plugins to be able to test conversations | 22:16 |
| arno11 | ok adding plugin like rakia works, able to install all rtcom accounts stuff | 22:38 |
| arno11 | setting up a sip account works now but impossible to signin because of dummy network apparently | 22:39 |
| Wizzup | yeah dummy network actually makes an interface | 22:43 |
| Wizzup | you might want something even more dummy-er | 22:43 |
| Wizzup | arno11: does icd2 run? | 22:48 |
| arno11 | let me check | 22:51 |
| arno11 | yes it does | 22:52 |
| diejuse | @arno11 @Wizzup Dummy network is a problem yes | 22:53 |
| arno11 | the main issue imo | 22:53 |
| sicelo | in the chroot, you're otherwise able to interact with the internet, e.g. resolve dns names from xterm? | 22:54 |
| freemangordon | what is the issue with dummy network? | 22:54 |
| freemangordon | it works fine in VM, I see no reason why it wouldn't in another environment | 22:55 |
| diejuse | email app will not work either. I am using thunderbird as a client that does work | 22:55 |
| arno11 | maemo apps seem to not see the network | 22:55 |
| freemangordon | right, but what is the issue with dummy net? | 22:55 |
| diejuse | @sicelo yes it works with chroot | 22:56 |
| freemangordon | ok, does system dbus work? | 22:56 |
| arno11 | apparently yes | 22:57 |
| diejuse | /etc/init.d/dbus was modified by me to get working | 22:57 |
| arno11 | i see dbus-daemon, dbus-launch running | 22:57 |
| arno11 | ah ok | 22:58 |
| sicelo | `busctl list` should tell you if it's working as expected | 22:58 |
| arno11 | ok let me check | 22:58 |
| arno11 | seems ok | 22:59 |
| arno11 | i see almost everything | 22:59 |
| sicelo | including something with icd/icd2 ? | 23:00 |
| arno11 | yes | 23:00 |
| diejuse | I read you from time to time because I'm dining out. Glad you are reviewing proot. :) | 23:00 |
| diejuse | I want to know why an app manager like Synaptic works and not the Maemo app manager. If the internet works, why do I need a dummy network? | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | diejuse: because maemo apps require icd to confirm there is working connection | 23:17 |
| diejuse | ok mmm thanks for the answer. It would be nice to have a way to bypass the requirement, to have an alternative version of the app manager. Simply have the requirement that there is an Internet connection. | 23:26 |
| diejuse | Proot's limitations require some adaptations. | 23:29 |
| uvos | freemangordon: to what end anyhow? | 23:32 |
| uvos | freemangordon: i dont see how its better than just assuming there is and poping up the dialog when the tcp request fails. | 23:33 |
| uvos | if no interface is set up the request will fail instantly anyhow | 23:34 |
| uvos | so it isent speed | 23:34 |
| uvos | specificly talking about HAM | 23:34 |
| uvos | for some other clients you can make the argument that it saves power if they dont try | 23:35 |
| uvos | but HAM? i dont see it | 23:35 |
| freemangordon | uvos:all those use the same library, I don;t see how (and why) every app shall behave differently | 23:44 |
| freemangordon | also, this was never meant to be run without root access | 23:45 |
| freemangordon | https://github.com/maemo-leste/libconic | 23:46 |
| freemangordon | not to say that dummy connection not working just exposes some major issue with the whole setup | 23:49 |
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